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[marthaswhippet 1]

my dogs are fed on raw [pet mince] it comes straight from the butcher so i no there will be no harm to my dog cause the meat is as fresh as it comes i have never felt the need to cook it although if the dogs had a hard night out on the lamp i will boil some off for him just as a treat though

I feed mine pet mince from the butcher but I imagine thats very different from the pet mince that sandymere is posting about.

[sandymere 8,263]

You little show pony Sirius..

 

Thank you chalky LOL that's demonstrates just what I mean, proper meat, not some minced god knows what from god knows where.

Down to common sense, we can't control what goes into the human food chain so just imagine what goes into the animal food chain so think about what your buying.

Edited March 18, 2013 by sandymere

[bunnys 1,228]

i can understand the concern ova pet mince , but as good has heads are which they are good food for dogs us alike , proper meat brains eyes tongue all offall ha ha ha ya creep. atb bunnys.

[Sirius 1,391]

I agree that quality is paramount and without doubt we all want to reduce any chance of a problem occurring in our dogs. By saying earlier in the thread you don't need to cook meats from a manufacturer, may have been slightly misleading or not enough detail but I am referring to good quality meat minces from a reputable supplier, not any old rubbish. I would like to give the other members of the forum some credit that I would hope they would get their meats from a decent source also.

 

I have seen first hand the absolute rubbish which can be supplied it literally turns to mush once defrosted. And previously I have come across suppliers selling meat that I can only term as more than a little high. The only place that went was in the bin But it is much the same as complete suppliers they are not free from issues with their food either, I can think of two occasions over the years where there have been serious problems with major brands of dog food were recalled due to manufacturing problems. I guess there is a risk in anything you buy if you don't know exactly where it comes from, and even then there is no guarantee.

 

After years of getting 6-8 tripes, beef off cuts, tongues monthly fresh from the abattoir and mincing to create a base feed for the dogs, sadly things changed and I could no longer get it as regularly. So I have shopped around to find a decent quality company which can supply the quantity of mince regularly and which most importantly has a good standard of quality. We had around 120-130kg delivered today in fact, and it looks spot on just like the last delivery.

None of it will be cooked before feeding to the dogs, and I still often add carcass, chicken bones and veg to this and any game which I have caught.

 

This is what we have made up for years and years, and i doubt I can beat it, it was superb it came from local beasts and much of it was still warm when it went through the mincer. The dogs thrived on this.

 

 

 

 

 

Good luck with however you feed your dogs Sirius

Edited March 21, 2013 by Sirius

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Those tripes are like gold dust now fellah...

Edited March 22, 2013 by CHALKWARREN

[Hot Meat 3,109]

Can't beat Meat for dogs and in the recent bad weather a bit of hot meat can work wonders to insulate a dog from the inside out. Stock an caught game cant be beaten as dog food its what nature intended

[Sirius 1,391]

Those tripes are like gold dust now fellah...

 

 

Aint that the truth mate, we used to get all our tripes and bits and bobs for the dogs locally for as long as I can remember. They seem to have clued onto it now, and I am sure alot gets sold on to dog food companies for more dollar (or maybe for northerners to have with onions) I can still get whole tripes but its just not consistant in quality or volume. Alot still goes to the hound kennel and plenty of those stinking 'Bible Tripes' too, although alot of hunting folk rate bible it just isnt for me, too shitty. But when you see a pack of hounds decemate a stack of it, they sure do love it and look and work well enough on it in their diet.

 

Some times I think you can think to much about a subject and as long as its good quality and the dogs look well, I am happy.

like you say, plenty of hunting, good food and a cosy bed is all thats needed, years ago our lurchers, spaniels and terriers had green tripe, rabbits and scraps and worked and lived well into there dottage.

Edited March 21, 2013 by Sirius

[low plains drifter 10,311]

Those tripes are like gold dust now fellah...

 

I've started feeding raw green stuff, that has come down, via Halls of Sunderland...

It is fairly coarsely minced, and seems to be good gear...

I also mix meat from fallen stock, calves, lambs and Horses, with the tripe..

Been getting loads of hares, off a local estate, and there is plenty of flesh on them,..the freezer is bursting at the seams.

I prefer the raw meat feeding regime, but sometimes I add Arden Grange..., the jukels love it.

 

Plenty of varied hunting,.reams of good food and a warm cosy bed,..who could really ask for more,.eh...

 

 

What happened to judge's choice C W

[low plains drifter 10,311]

 

Speaking with my butcher the other day: various types of highly processed sausages and other 'ready' meals contain whole chicken carcases! I don't know if anyone has ever minced chicken legs: just the bones, no meat: what you get is a pink slushy pulp. Keep putting that through finer and finer mincer and the result goes into those sausages, and what they term 'reformed' meat products. They also used the carcases once the breast meat has been taken off.

 

So if that is what goes into human meat products, its no surprise that the feet, beaks, skulls, eyes, innards etc etc go into pet products.

 

Youre spot on there penny,

 

Ive been getting some "chicken mince" from a local pet supplies at 40p per lb, and its basically minced chicken carcass among other things. It looks exactly how you describe, pink slushy pulp.

 

The lumps were hardly noticeable and it wasnt mince as we know it. Another once or twice through a fine mincer and you could pass that off as ANYTHING once its covered in breadcrumbs and had a few flavourings added!

 

Gaz

When you see how well some of the dogs look on this kind of food,it makes me wonder,how much difference there really is in nutritional value between the so called fine cuts of meat and the other less desirable body parts,and how much of it comes down to the visual appearance,are we just too fussy and spoilt for choice to eat chicken foot soup in this country

[sandymere 8,263]

As I said earlier Low plains "the source is not important rather the fact that its the right building block supplied in a viable form. .....theres been a long history of our ancestors eating chickens eyeballs etc" perhaps we are all getting a little to "middle class" in our attitudes to food.

 

Sirius a sensible post, no silly bits about foxes and camp fires lol, I agree good meat is good cooked or raw, steak or tripe. I'm lucky in that one of our larger butchers is a friend so I get access to their "bone bin" from which it is simple to fill a couple of carrier bags with decent off cuts, bones etc. I use this to supplement game especially in the summer when the freezers stars to get low. I also I like to give decent bones once a week or so when feeding a lot of smaller boned rabbit to keep the teeth in decent nick. Add in veg and a carb source and some fiber to aid digestion and bobs your uncle, I use a complete for this as it does the job and has done for many many years.