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Never here of dropping th pup short he gets his head up in the dark an fox is there if he wants it hell stay if not no point wasting time there's plenty of other dogs to breed from.. Any GOOD terrier men ill tell you the best dog they ever had was no schooling in him ya myt get a dog thatll dig that you had to school hell f**k about some day let you down a bagfull dunno about any of use if I put a terrier to ground he strikes on you've to dig 14 foot down even less you get half way and your dog walks of or gets lazy :? And you're fox move what yas gonna do them?????

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but your going on about a dog that you dont no and you wernt there when this happened your to quick to judge mate and you seem to be one of these boys that go on like i have stanards if he dont go fir

No wonder people don't post about their days out, the lads put up an honest report of a dig and he's got clowns giving him the third degree!!!

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Never here of dropping th pup short he gets his head up in the dark an fox is there if he wants it hell stay if not no point wasting time there's plenty of other dogs to breed from.. Any GOOD terrier men ill tell you the best dog they ever had was no schooling in him ya myt get a dog thatll dig that you had to school hell f**k about some day let you down a bagfull dunno about any of use if I put a terrier to ground he strikes on you've to dig 14 foot down even less you get half way and your dog walks of or gets lazy :? And you're fox move what yas gonna do them?????

we,l call you gouldy to bring down a proper dog :thumbs:

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No one really knows what goes on under the sod when they enter there terrier,maybe it was just too tight for the bitch to squeese through after the fox and she came out to try a different approach and it worked as she found again and the culprit was accounted for,as for the pup 1st time to ground it may have lost it after making contact or maybe not just got the bottle for it.I have seen dogs that are dug and dug hard season after season strugle on some fox when they just cannot reach them,a fox will get into very tight spots,unbelievable at times so just maybe she done the right move by coming out and taking a different route,still and end result.

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gouldy you need bringing down to earth ..........there are plenty who have seen more than me on here and im sure plenty have seen more than you...........dont come on here spouting like your the only one who has seen a decent dog .......

a terrier needs a good crack at the whip .until its seen as a failure.......some pups will enter like they been doing it like a veteran for years and some need to build with confidence as they get more exspereinced with time ........a dog coming out doesnt mean its failed ........there are alot of factors you dont see under the ground.........

your attitude towards working terriers is of a concern..................every one has different standards but a terrier needs a fair chance at what ever standard you have ,.........

and getting rid of a pup who is starting out in earth work because its come away doesnt mean its failed............some dogs who start off slow turn out to be decent workers........

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cant really understand you mate the main objective is to dig to your terrier with its quarry in front of it no matter what that's what! weather or not dog cant get on comes out looks for other ways ect its the end product that counts and yes pal I do agree that if you did have a 14ft dig 7ft down dog moves you are going to be cheesed off but it happens mate its happened to me and everyone else if their honest not saying 14ft but you get what I mean its when you open up pull dog out and its quarry is there that's all that counts well it does for me anyway attb d4g

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you read harcombes coloumbs in edrd ,..........he knows his earths and he knows his dogs and he decides what dog would suit each earth ,............he dont just chuck in any old dog in ,......he takes in considerations such as ,.........size/exspereince/work style/ depth/ occupants/etc etc...............

if he thinks an earth is going to be to hard for a pup hes bringing on ,........he will suit it to a more able dog ........

but he doesnt stop there he brings the pups on by gradually building them up to standards he dont go chucking a pup in the deep end...........

in my honest opionion a true man claiming to be a terrier man ,...is a man who is a thinker and judges fairly on his own exspereince and is fair ...............and with exspereince comes good decision making.........with exsperince comes trust in there kennel.........

there are so many factors in terrier work its unbeleivable thinking of them all ....................some terriers mature fast some are slow........

some need more time , some not.....and the list goes on and mr gould your statement claiming a dog to be a failer is pure pish and shows how little you know........

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I agree 2 but if yove a dog that's shifting about with the stuff not only are you gonna oiss of the farmer by having 4-5 dig holes 4 one fox 3 you had old nog didn't you say??? You'd be roded up our way if ya did that 2 a farmers field!! Also nobody wants to dig 3+ holes for 1 fox its common sense keep good dogs bit of advice get rid of dogs that's no good simples at end of day you save a lot of argro.. As for the no good dogs there would be less shite dogs bred in the country if yas got rid of them!!

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Good job my brothers the keeper then aint shit bag :thumbs:

 

You carry one with your wonder dogs and il carry on with my useless mongrel (that gets results)? Deal?

 

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These kids read to many Books :yes:

:laugh: ..........you refering to me reading harcombes write ups.........?

alot of it is common sense and the man puts it in to perspective .............and hes fooking right in his way of thinking.........you aught to have a read ............he does interest me with his way of thinking......

@ gouldy if you think everytime you enter a dog ,..........you would be wrong in thinking you will always be diggin the once lol.............if the farmer aint happy may be he can sort out another method of controlling........ :D

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there are clever smart terriers then there are head strong firey terriers that dont think as much just drive on there are all types and some of these types can come from the one litter.lets say you put your great terrier in he hits solid cant get trough but keeps trying to get on but its not happening you dont no this as your getting the same reading on the box and dig down 5 foot to a terrier trying to get on but its never going to happen but on the other hand you have the other terrier that thinks this is not working so shows on top runs around then drops on the spot and you get your dig.now i no what terrier i would choose.

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there are clever smart terriers then there are head strong firey terriers that dont think as much just drive on there are all types and some of these types can come from the one litter.lets say you put your great terrier in he hits solid cant get trough but keeps trying to get on but its not happening you dont no this as your getting the same reading on the box and dig down 5 foot to a terrier trying to get on but its never going to happen but on the other hand you have the other terrier that thinks this is not working so shows on top runs around then drops on the spot and you get your dig.now i no what terrier i would choose.

 

ino a dogs not gonna sit barking at a fooking root now is he????? hes guna get past or come on and be keen to get in again not stand sniffing haha,,,, that's were you should no you're dog... please tell me what your meaning of a working terrier is???

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