bigdaz 688 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 this one will run all day, owners a wanker though we were ferreting, the main concern is that it wants to retrieve every rabbit we dispatch and put on the ground If it doesn't sit and stay where it's told when ferreting then I don't hold a lot of hope for it sitting at a peg or in a hide. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patterdalejoel 669 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 this one will run all day, owners a wanker though we were ferreting, the main concern is that it wants to retrieve every rabbit we dispatch and put on the ground If it doesn't sit and stay where it's told when ferreting then I don't hold a lot of hope for it sitting at a peg or in a hide. ok well thats your opinion and you obviously already know everything about this dog. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sussex 5,777 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 If the kennel club need to see proper WORKING dogs might i sugest they remove there heads from up there own arse's & look at this thread,the lab of patterdalejoel should be breed standard ,it could WORK all day ,the springer could WORK all day,and no doubt all the dogs owened by people on here could & probably do WORK all day.My own lab is eleven she stalks with me 3 or 4 times a week,sulks if i go out without her,she would at her age run that excuse for a lab into the ground. .....The people who breed ,show, judge these dogs are a fcuking disgrace....Stop breeding dogs for the way YOU want them to LOOK & breed dogs that can do what they were intended to do ......WORK...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 crufts is just a parade of MUTANTS designed to make money and all those KC judges that endorse this should be lined up and shot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RubyTex 1,957 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 this one will run all day, owners a wanker though we were ferreting, the main concern is that it wants to retrieve every rabbit we dispatch and put on the ground If it doesn't sit and stay where it's told when ferreting then I don't hold a lot of hope for it sitting at a peg or in a hide. Not sure what's wrong about having a dog on a slip lead like? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Just a thought here, the lab breed evolved as a fishing dog originally, it was the fact that it was a good swimmer and retriever that attracted it to the shooting fraternity. I would like to see that dog carry a line from one boat to another in a force 8. TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Carraghs Gem 1,675 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 In the gun dog group there were several dogs that looked fit for purpose... The german shorthaired pointer for example.. Yet they put the worst dog in the whole group in at first place.. Absolutely shocking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Crufts a picture speaks a thousand words Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Crufts a picture speaks a thousand words What type of dog did that woman enter with?? Lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LaraCroft 863 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 It's sad to see the state of some of the breeds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepitcovert 842 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Personally i love the explanations on the running commentary as to why the dogs look like they do. There was one dog with dreadlocks that a jamaican gangster would have given his right arm for and the bullshit reason for them was hysterical, another dog that had eyebrows like dennis healey it needs them for when its rooting in bushes or digging, absolutely brilliant best comedy on tv. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,004 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Why do people blame the kc for these monstrosities?, they are only the registration society. You don't have a crash in the car and blame the dvla so you?. The breed clubs write the standard that is then put in place by the kc. If people stopped attending those events and demanded a change in standards it would soon be done because the kc does not like to miss out on a pound coin. The kc did not vote that disgrace of a dog 1st place in he gundog group but a judge that is obviously clueless about a Labradors work. fair point that, yeh you right the breed clubs have got to change the( breed standard) .The prob is today breeders( dont ) work the dogs, because if they did they would know what they are breeding today (couldnt) do a days work . Fact .i used to keep bullmastiffs, and did well in the shows in the 80s, but back then the breed was going down hill, with bad HD, not long lived, and they couldnt do the job to what they were bred for, a night dog.The proper bullmastiff of the 1920-30s were only -90lb dogs and agile more like ridgebacks or like the Alunt of today which x bullmastiffs x bullxgreys .The breeds of today will have to be out crossed to other breeds just to be healthy never mind work With a lurcher what ever the x, if even if it wasnt worked for what ever reason, atleast you know it would be healthy and it could work if need be . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,789 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 the kc is vertually a closed stud book , ,for whatever reason , only known to them they dont want new blood introduced into the breeds .the u/s is similar most of there breeding blood came from us years ago . and they still demand a 3 gen ped before regestration as we do . the kc is under preasure from the breeders to keep there name and the money from regestration fees .dog wealfare doesent seem to come into it .yes the breeders fault for breeding shite but the kc fault for accepting it .just not fit for the origional purpose they were bred for !!. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,004 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 the kc is vertually a closed stud book , ,for whatever reason , only known to them they dont want new blood introduced into the breeds .the u/s is similar most of there breeding blood came from us years ago . and they still demand a 3 gen ped before regestration as we do . the kc is under preasure from the breeders to keep there name and the money from regestration fees .dog wealfare doesent seem to come into it .yes the breeders fault for breeding shite but the kc fault for accepting it .just not fit for the origional purpose they were bred for !!. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted March 11, 2013 Report Share Posted March 11, 2013 Have a look here: maybe things are going to change.....eventually! http://www.vetstreet.com/dr-marty-becker/veterinarians-kick-out-champion-purebreds-at-crufts-dog-show-for-poor-health Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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