mad al 146 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 i forgot to mention above that i also feed raw bone and raw chickhen carcass from the butcher's at least twice a week ..........it is the potato feeding that i am more concerned about than the rest of the diet Now to me, as was mentioned in another reply, spuds are mainly starch and water and when my Dad was alive he'd never feed anything starch rich to his dogs. Apart from that, I hope somebody else is more up on it than me. Al Quote Link to post Share on other sites
proper job 1 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Think of how a pack of wild dogs would do it. Kill, offal/guts 1st, then fillet/loin, back/rump, ribs, shoulders, neck, lower legs, bones and hide, this would occur over a period of time dependant on size of kill and size of pack, the only veg would be digested stomach contents and the bit of grass they pick to clean their gut out occasionally. I am a great believer in barf but not too much of the veg, dogs are carnivores. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chaz 6 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Have a look at the landywoods website. Mine get chicken wings, turkey necks, chicken carcases, pigs trotters and minced lamb and veg. Just about exactly the same as mine but I do add more veg and also occasionally the wholewheat biscuit they supply along with keepers mix from dorwest Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chaz 6 Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 Just did a quick search this may help but a little bit brief what not to feed Not sure how correct maybe someone else who is more knowledgable can give a more conclusive answer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest POT FILLER Posted July 25, 2007 Report Share Posted July 25, 2007 WATCHED A DOCUMENTRY TODAY ON WOLVES IN YELLOW STONE ,IT SHOWED WOLFS KILLING ELK AND BISON AFTER EACH KILL ALL THE RIBCAGE SPINE WAS LEFT EVEN ALL THE LEGS WERE INTACT JUST GOES TO SHOW WOLFS DONT EAT ALL THE BONES LIKE PEOPLE THINK JUST STRIP THE CARCASSE CLEAN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pipey Magregor 0 Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Just did a quick search this may help but a little bit brief what not to feed Not sure how correct maybe someone else who is more knowledgable can give a more conclusive answer Blimey Chaz cheers for that. My dog was given a couple of grapes today and ate some onion aswell no more of that now. I kne chocolate was absolutely no good for them, didnt know about the fruit though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ditch_Shitter Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Ceredigion; What ye choosing to feed them there sounds alright mate, as far as it goes. Only the spud will really be adding little to them. Just packer, really. Better to replace that with bone, to be honest. I'd also personally want to put more goodness into my Dogs than just constant tripe. That's why I mainly use breast of lamb. It's a truly natural, near as damnit 'Complete' Diet. Has the bone, flesh and all important fat content all in one. Just to throw in one other comment ref' the qualities of bones in a Dogs diet: A decent level of raw bones produces that 'Old Fashioned' and much nostalgiarised 'White, Crumbly Dog Shit' some of us still remember from out youth. That stuff wasn't deposited by unwell Dogs. Nor was it bleached by the sun. It was the simple resuly of Dogs, in those days, being fed a good, balanced diet including plenty of raw bone. It's calcium waste that made those yellowish white, crumbly pellets. What's more - and this is the bit - those Dogs seldom suffered from anal gland impaction (leading them to drag their own arses about on the ground) because the natural act of shitting a seriese of hard pellets also stretched their little bums and so expelled their glands naturally. For that reason, plus the holistic health maintanence reasons of clean teeth and good gums ~ thus better all over physical condition ~ I feed plenty of medium sized raw bones. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 WATCHED A DOCUMENTRY TODAY ON WOLVES IN YELLOW STONE ,IT SHOWED WOLFS KILLING ELK AND BISON AFTER EACH KILL ALL THE RIBCAGE SPINE WAS LEFT EVEN ALL THE LEGS WERE INTACT JUST GOES TO SHOW WOLFS DONT EAT ALL THE BONES LIKE PEOPLE THINK JUST STRIP THE CARCASSE CLEAN If you ate a bisons ribcage you'd be bunged up for a month Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 WATCHED A DOCUMENTRY TODAY ON WOLVES IN YELLOW STONE ,IT SHOWED WOLFS KILLING ELK AND BISON AFTER EACH KILL ALL THE RIBCAGE SPINE WAS LEFT EVEN ALL THE LEGS WERE INTACT JUST GOES TO SHOW WOLFS DONT EAT ALL THE BONES LIKE PEOPLE THINK JUST STRIP THE CARCASSE CLEAN If you ate a bisons ribcage you'd be bunged up for a month Yeah: there is a bit of a difference between a bison and a lamb LOL! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Yeah: there is a bit of a difference between a bison and a lamb LOL! About 40p per lb.............. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest pip Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 allright folks , a mate of mine was watching/helping me as i fed my pack of terriers, lurchers and bull terriers this evening and seemed quite dismayed at the ingreidients of there food .........first in each bowl is tripe then a scoop or three of mashed veg a splash of cooking oil a small spoonfull of multi vitamin sa37 i then pour on top any blood that has run out of the tripe when it was defrosting , now personally i am happy with what i feed and all dogs look and are healthy , the main thing that my mate kept banging on about was the mashed veg because most of it is potato , does anybody else feed potato or is no good for dogs ? Almost exactly what i feed mine except i give B12 liver tab in the working season and cod liver oil instead of olive oil Whats the vitsa37 do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Pip, sa37 is a vitamin supplement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest POT FILLER Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 WATCHED A DOCUMENTRY TODAY ON WOLVES IN YELLOW STONE ,IT SHOWED WOLFS KILLING ELK AND BISON AFTER EACH KILL ALL THE RIBCAGE SPINE WAS LEFT EVEN ALL THE LEGS WERE INTACT JUST GOES TO SHOW WOLFS DONT EAT ALL THE BONES LIKE PEOPLE THINK JUST STRIP THE CARCASSE CLEAN If you ate a bisons ribcage you'd be bunged up for a month Yeah: there is a bit of a difference between a bison and a lamb LOL! SKYCAT YOU WILL NEED A FULL BISON A DAY TO FEED THE AMOUNT OF CURS YOU HAVE I HERE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MOLLY Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 Here you go, veg list... Good Veggies' & Fruits to Feed (Foods you can feel good about feeding. Add lots of green leafy vegetables) Courgettes- Romaine (COS) Lettuce - High nutritional value Ice Berg Lettuce - has no nutritional value but is OK to feed. You can use as a filler. Tomatoes (avoid the leaves and stems) - Carrots - These are high in sugars so be careful Celery - Not much nutritional value but is a good diuretic. Bok Choy - Parsley- Oranges - Apples (not the seeds) - peas- Bananas - Alfalpha Sprouts - Bell Peppers (Capsicum) - red, green and yellow Fresh Pumpkin (not the canned pie filling) - Silver Beat - Beet Root - Kale - Cilantro - Mustard Greens - Dandelions - Marrow- Yams - Sweet Potatoes - Asparagus - Jicama (remove skin) - Parsnip - Turnips - Sprouts - Caution Veggies' & Fruits (Foods you can feed but with cautions) Garlic - fed in small amounts is very beneficial for your dog. It is considered natures antibiotic. However, to much can cause anaemia and upset stomach. So when making your veggie mix, use 1-3 cloves but no more. Grapes / raisins- (in high amounts) Dogs exhibit gastrointestinal problems, including vomiting and diarrhoea and then signs of kidney failure with an onset of severe kidney signs starting about 24 hours after ingestion of the grapes or raisins. Eggplant - OK to feed the fruit but avoid any other parts. They can cause upset stomach, drooling, lethargy, heart failure Avocados (& leaves) - Stay away from the leaves. The fruit part is OK to feed in small amounts. Spinach, Swiss Chard, and Rhubarb - OK in small amounts. While these are not toxic, they are high in oxalic acid, a compound that interferes with calcium absorption, so don't feed these very often. Cabbage/Broccoli/Cauliflower - OK to feed in small amounts but may cause gas. If fed frequently and in large amounts these will depress the thyroid. Potatoes - Cautions: If your dog is diabetic or has arthritis and has/had cancer then you may want to stay away from underground veggies because they convert to starch/sugar which aggravates arthritis. Cancer cells also thrive on sugars. Bad Veggies' & Fruits (Foods to be avoided all together) Onions & (onion powder) - upset stomach, and can cause Heinz body anaemia. MOLL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MOLLY Posted July 26, 2007 Report Share Posted July 26, 2007 I tend to stay away from root vegetables due to the arthritic reasons. Because of the work running dogs do they will be more prone to arthritis, and most of our dogs will already have it even though we are not aware. So i avoid root veg which could make it more painfull. MOLL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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