spindolero 1,111 Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 just jesting mate, you're probably right.Lol i was going to suggest american bulldog x alsation as i had a ab that caught one once and my mates alsation caught 3 round his farm. i know where to come for a lining Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 (edited) A wheaten pointer.... would be some tough fecking mutt! (wooly aligator)But whats it going to catch Pork.. (edit). as well as hunting/flushing, tracking shot game, catching and holding big game that may have been shot, so needing stopped for dispatch etc I'm straying off topic now though, but your totally right. I used to kill tons of foxes but not any more. When I did I got hold of the best tool for the job in my opinion, and that opinion is still the same today, a well bred, line bred Bull Lurcher wont be beaten for daily vermin control day and night. Ive got bullx....Ive got pointers.... There is nothing wrong with a good bullx nose at all, they can hunt like a hound, and coupled with extreme prey drive. I wouldnt be adding pointer to make an improvement to a foxing lurcher, the bull cross has it all, except for the harsh winter proof coat, and if fit and well looked after stamina shouldnt be an issue... but I do a lot more than fox these days.... again, it was off topic, sorry for the confusion mate DnN Edited March 14, 2013 by dogs-n-natives 2 Quote Link to post
BORDERSCOT 3,816 Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 A wheaten pointer.... would be some tough fecking mutt! (wooly aligator)But whats it going to catch Pork Pork - ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post
spindolero 1,111 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 you wont beat a pointer x grey hard as nails Seen a few that were decent. Hunted moors really well, found and killed fine... I own pure wirehair pointers. But for an out n out vermin muncher, bull cross are in my opinion, top of the tree. Their coat is sometimes too thin though, the ammount of days weve put one to ground, and my bull lurchers have had to sit about in the shittest weather, makes for a sorry sight lol until charlie bolted anyway! have you/would you use your pure wireheads on a greyhound? also do they do a good job of hunting/flushing fox themselves? always liked the look of them i know of 2 wirehead x greys and at 13 months were well into double figures also i heard that a lot of keeper boys are getting shot of there bullx as the pointer x greys are doing the job better realy good staminar im well impressed with what ive seen and heard about them i keep hearing stuff about pointer/gey first cross but getting hold of one seems a harder proposition Quote Link to post
spindolero 1,111 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 just jesting mate, you're probably right.Lol i was going to suggest american bulldog x alsation as i had a ab that caught one once and my mates alsation caught 3 round his farm. i know where to come for a lining is that a no then Downsouth? I can;t use the alsation?? i'm hurt Quote Link to post
malc1 544 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 you wont beat a pointer x grey hard as nails Seen a few that were decent. Hunted moors really well, found and killed fine... I own pure wirehair pointers. But for an out n out vermin muncher, bull cross are in my opinion, top of the tree. Their coat is sometimes too thin though, the ammount of days weve put one to ground, and my bull lurchers have had to sit about in the shittest weather, makes for a sorry sight lol until charlie bolted anyway! have you/would you use your pure wireheads on a greyhound? also do they do a good job of hunting/flushing fox themselves? always liked the look of them i know of 2 wirehead x greys and at 13 months were well into double figures also i heard that a lot of keeper boys are getting shot of there bullx as the pointer x greys are doing the job better realy good staminar im well impressed with what ive seen and heard about them i keep hearing stuff about pointer/gey first cross but getting hold of one seems a harder proposition ill let you know when the next litter is coming i could of put the pointer over my greyhound bitch atb malc Quote Link to post
spindolero 1,111 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 thanks Malc Quote Link to post
coverdogs 888 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 i allways fancied this cross my brother in law had 2 wgp x harrier crosses these were good dogs on a fox great markers and very good at holding a line and not affraid to get stuck in if need be. Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,213 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 just jesting mate, you're probably right.Lol i was going to suggest american bulldog x alsation as i had a ab that caught one once and my mates alsation caught 3 round his farm. i know where to come for a lining is that a no then Downsouth? I can;t use the alsation?? i'm hurt You can use him but its going to be a hefty old stud fee as hes a 100% garaunteed fox dog. Quote Link to post
mick hucknell 17 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 what about alsation x s Quote Link to post
WILF 46,646 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Why does anyone think that a lurcher or bull x would need extra nose added to the mix to hunt fox?.......foxes smell that much and it's so distinctive that a human can almost hunt one by nose never mind a dog! I have seen a bully type lurcher catch a field mouse in the dark using just its nose and ears to pin point then just bending down to pick it up!!! Why anyone thinks any type of dog needs MORE nose for a quarry like fox is beyond me 4 Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) True,... Bull blood lurchers ,..if bred right,..are often superbly capable hunters,..they can definitely find their quarry,..and when they do..... Edited March 16, 2013 by CHALKWARREN 3 Quote Link to post
downsouth 7,213 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 Why does anyone think that a lurcher or bull x would need extra nose added to the mix to hunt fox?.......foxes smell that much and it's so distinctive that a human can almost hunt one by nose never mind a dog! I have seen a bully type lurcher catch a field mouse in the dark using just its nose and ears to pin point then just bending down to pick it up!!! Why anyone thinks any type of dog needs MORE nose for a quarry like fox is beyond me Because most people have never seen a properly bred bullcross given the opertunity to show what they are capable of if given the chance. 2 Quote Link to post
spindolero 1,111 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 breed aside - i think scenting conditions vary and some days you need all the nose you can get, don't doubt that some bull bred lurchers are great hunters Quote Link to post
malc1 544 Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 what about alsation x s what about alsation x s my gsd x has never let me down he found one on his own it was when i put the lamp on i saw he had it so im not knocking the gsd but ive seen and herd realy good things about the pointer x grey a lot better stamina and a good brain and wont let go [BANNED TEXT] takeing a beating just keep going in atb malc Quote Link to post
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