A Cull On The Horizon??

[The one 8,474]

There talking about a 60% higher roe cull while im seeing more roe nearer towns, railways and graveyard there no chance of a safe shot at some of them

[seprim 32]

Must be quiet in the news nothing much going on and takes it away from the badgers.

I was thinking the exact same thing...

[sussex 5,777]

the one ,i think half the time there talking through there arse.the other half there talking shite ,theres no access to huge tracks of land both private & public how in hell is anyone going to co ordinate a cull ....who is going to do it ,? They cant co ordinate a badger cull let alone a deer one .....Anything government lead is sure to be a cock up.

Can anyone see a government led cull that upsets public opinion,land owners,councils,etc .I cant ...and i for one would'nt want to be part of any out of season ,night time free for all ........

[hutchey 147]

having worked in most councils, local and central government they are all incapable of organising anything! plus the antis will be all over the media etc so unless we get a dose of rabies or some other highly contagious multi-species parasite etc then nothing will ever happen.

[seprim 32]

See link for more details

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21688447

Here is a quote from the BBC report

"Dr Dolman led a census of roe and muntjac deer populations across 234 sq km (90 sq miles) of woods and heathland in Breckland, East Anglia.

The researchers drove more than 1,140 miles at night using thermal imaging cameras to spot deer and provide an accurate estimate of their true numbers."

I don't think that is much at all. Seeing as the UK is 94,060 square miles....It seems they are overreaching a little to broad brush the UK with these stats - I'm not convinced it's a UK wide problem, an East Anglia problem maybe

[Huan72 687]

There talking about a 60% higher roe cull while im seeing more roe nearer towns, railways and graveyard there no chance of a safe shot at some of them

 

This chap was about 25 meters away from a main road, on an access road to a small woodland/marshland area in a south coast town! I got to within 7 meters of him before he turned and then I took this.

I see deer all the time here, the last year or so seems to have brought them out. They also seem to like the creeks around here and are more than happy to swim accross small creek inlets.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Ive personally never held with the suggested cull percentages given out by the deer bodies .I shoot mainly roe and the rate at which they infill is astonishing to the point that if its in season i will shoot it .Contrary to the widespread belief concerning genetics ,there is no drop in quality at all from this type of control that i can see.From what i can see ,there are pockets of deer around me ,namely fallow that are jealously guarded to the point where they are untouchable ,leading to increased road traffic accidents and nocturnal crop raiding .Its these places that need to get thier house in order .I know of one estate where the browse line is so defined you can kneel and see from one end of an eighty acre wood to the other. I also shoot muntjac on sight regardless of sex and dont think twice about heavily pregnant does .Management plans seldom reach targets whereas the shoot on sight policy definately reduces numbers fast albeit only temporary due to infill .The last thing i want to see is emaciated deer or have farmers unsatisfied with my work .

[paulus 26]

we are plauged by muntjac to the point there as nunerous as rabbits, roe are also starting to move into areas they have never been seen before, the thing is these muntjac are everywhere and can be spotted on housing estates, industrial estates,parks,cemerteries,school field ect so an effective cull would be impossible

[sussex 5,777]

Where we are in sussex its fallow that are in big numbers ,the muntjac are starting to appear but the estates i shoot for dont want them first or last ,one in particular is addament every one that is seen has to go.We do have roe but i only take a few.The fallow i'm on virtually non stop .The piece of land next to mine the guy that has the stalking (which he paid a fortune for) only shoots half a dozen times a year ,normally during the rut ,never when its cold or wet & not really bothered about the doe's.As far as he's concerned he 's bought the right to go out when he wants .His land owner (absent) is'nt bothered by deer numbers other than the ones behind the £ sign. My land owner used to sell the stalking but had the same problem ,in the end not only were they eating all the stalking money ,with damage to fences & woodland he was on a big loser.Now i do the stalking on condition i actually do it ,come what may .

[beast 1,884]

we have fallow in enormous numbers, muntjac and water deer to the point of being vermin, and roe have been seen round here this winter for the first time in many years. the water deer dont seem to do a lot of harm as a rule, although sometimes you can see 20 in one field (especially on beet or rape over winter) and i guess they probably eat into the farmers profits a bit! the muntjac and fallow have basically eaten everything up to about six feet off the floor in almost every scrap of woodland round here, but its still very very hard to get any permission; people seem to guard it very closely just to shoot two or three animals a year, and dont care about the damage being done

[Camouflage 0]

Apparently the bbc have got the original survey figures wrong and have made a cock up as usual

[The one 8,474]

Most councils dont have enough brains to blow there noses never mind organize a cull on there land , but i feel there going to be forced into some kind of compromise due to greater numbers of road traffic accident involving deer

[greenshank1 407]

In Scotland Under the deer act scotland 1996 and amended by the WANE act , landowners are responsible for managing deer on their land.

 

If and its a big if in situations where deer are proved to be destroying the landscape or posing a danger to the public different sections can be evoked

Section 7 is an agreement between landowners and government to voluntarily agree cull

Section 8 is cumpulsary if section 7 fails

Section 9 is where the cull is delivered by government and landowners are billed for costs

Section 10 is emergency cull forced by government onto landowners when everything else has failed ie Glen Feshie.

 

Sustainable deer management is now the aim by all responsible deer managers. As money is tight I think you will see more and more stalking opportunities for people with dmq's and insurance.

The scottish government ain't likely to continue to pay people to shoot deer forever when people would do it for nothing