TOM HEAVY 140 Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 hi and thanks for reading this msg... i am currently mooching my 6 month old pup around the barrow area on a regular basis, this is my 1st dog and 1 i have wanted for years !! he's a whippet (lurcher) X grayhound (lurcher) very obidient and great with other dogs. I have seen rabbits with him to which he give chase but he does not have the know how of sprinting and attempting to catch. This is a problem in my area in which i regularly mooch because there just isn't enough open ground containing rabbits in numbers which brings me round to my topic title... i was wondering if anyone in the cumbrian area would like to take their dogs out lamping so mine can watch and hopefully begin to understand his insticts more clearly ???? i would be willing to drive pretty much anywhere in the county, and would very much appreciate any help form anyone... cheers all and speak soon Quote Link to post
TOM HEAVY 140 Posted March 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 thanks for response lads, i'll know where to look next time Quote Link to post
lapin2008 1,587 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Reading between the lines on your post mate, you seem like a decent lad and not the usual run out and get a dog at the drop of a hat type but... In my opinion your pup is too young to be chasing stuff. If the dog fails to catch lots of stuff there is a risk that you will ruin it. Some do and get good results from pups that start earlier but with it being your first dog i think you would be stacking the odds more in your favor if you left it to mature a bit more first 1 Quote Link to post
TOM HEAVY 140 Posted March 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 thanks lapin... if my dog see's things tho and i don't let it chase how will it ever know how to?? i guess the obvious answer is to let him whatch an experienced dog and keep him on the leesh. How old do u wreckon he shud be before i shud give him a chance to chase agen? is there any point in letting him case rabbits he probs won't catch from time to time? thanks agen lapin Quote Link to post
moonlighter 1,163 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 You don't train a lurcher to chase...it's in there genes.... Train it to do something else like fetch and sit Quote Link to post
lapin2008 1,587 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 thanks lapin... if my dog see's things tho and i don't let it chase how will it ever know how to?? i guess the obvious answer is to let him whatch an experienced dog and keep him on the leesh. How old do u wreckon he shud be before i shud give him a chance to chase agen? is there any point in letting him case rabbits he probs won't catch from time to time? thanks agen lapin I would try and avoid situations where there is loads of stuff about, if the dogs is wanting to chase them now the instinct will still be there in a few months time. I wouldnt worry about having him on the lead to watch another dog either as too much of this will frustrate him as well. Dont worry about rabbits too much at this stage just get it places with varying terrain (woods/fields/streams/the beach/fences/walls etc etc) where it can run around being a daft pup, its all learning how to move round/over/under stuff and IMO this will set it up better for the future than trying to catch stuff that it probably wont catch and wouldnt have the maturity to deal with if it did. IMO this is especially important as with its breeding it will be very fast so exposure to this stuff when not flat out chasing will be important to help develop the skills to avoid things when it is running fast. Also get it exposure to people, livestock and other dogs will stand you in good stead. Just focusing on basics like recall and retrieve, sit will not be time wasted. Most people will show them the odd easy rabbit at 10-14 months but all dogs will vary 9 Quote Link to post
TROY_BOY 62 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 ferreted rabbits mate Quote Link to post
3175darren 1,100 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Let him grow lapin2008 is giving good advice for a dog the age of yours, you wont regret it 1 Quote Link to post
broonball 38 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 really work on the retrieve,recall and heel. i let my pup pull a rabbit outa hole wi the ferret at 5 month and iv regretted it ever since. just think in a month or two there will be rakes of young bunnys about and you'll have all summer for your pup to learn before next season. its hard to hold back with the first dog i know but i wouldnt make the same mistake again. atb Quote Link to post
toby63 1,236 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 hi and thanks for reading this msg... i am currently mooching my 6 month old pup around the barrow area on a regular basis, this is my 1st dog and 1 i have wanted for years !! he's a whippet (lurcher) X grayhound (lurcher) very obidient and great with other dogs. I have seen rabbits with him to which he give chase but he does not have the know how of sprinting and attempting to catch. This is a problem in my area in which i regularly mooch because there just isn't enough open ground containing rabbits in numbers which brings me round to my topic title... i was wondering if anyone in the cumbrian area would like to take their dogs out lamping so mine can watch and hopefully begin to understand his insticts more clearly ???? i would be willing to drive pretty much anywhere in the county, and would very much appreciate any help form anyone... cheers all and speak soon hold your dog back mate til its 12mth mate Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,288 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 thanks lapin... if my dog see's things tho and i don't let it chase how will it ever know how to?? i guess the obvious answer is to let him whatch an experienced dog and keep him on the leesh. How old do u wreckon he shud be before i shud give him a chance to chase agen? is there any point in letting him case rabbits he probs won't catch from time to time? thanks agen lapin I would try and avoid situations where there is loads of stuff about, if the dogs is wanting to chase them now the instinct will still be there in a few months time. I wouldnt worry about having him on the lead to watch another dog either as too much of this will frustrate him as well. Dont worry about rabbits too much at this stage just get it places with varying terrain (woods/fields/streams/the beach/fences/walls etc etc) where it can run around being a daft pup, its all learning how to move round/over/under stuff and IMO this will set it up better for the future than trying to catch stuff that it probably wont catch and wouldnt have the maturity to deal with if it did. IMO this is especially important as with its breeding it will be very fast so exposure to this stuff when not flat out chasing will be important to help develop the skills to avoid things when it is running fast. Also get it exposure to people, livestock and other dogs will stand you in good stead. Just focusing on basics like recall and retrieve, sit will not be time wasted. Most people will show them the odd easy rabbit at 10-14 months but all dogs will vary The above post by Lapin is the BEST advice you will get no matter who or wherever else you seek it?...it's no good sending a child to do a mans job is it?..no different with dogs..I'm in Cumbria and would have a walk out with you no problem but for now my advice would be to take on board to the letter what Lapin has said and it'll pay dividends in the long run and by doing so you will have given your dog every chance to show his true colours come the time he's ready for work...Atb Andy Quote Link to post
TOM HEAVY 140 Posted March 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 thanks for everyone's help, very much appreciated,i will certainly take on board the advice atb Tom 1 Quote Link to post
TOM HEAVY 140 Posted March 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 thanks lapin... if my dog see's things tho and i don't let it chase how will it ever know how to?? i guess the obvious answer is to let him whatch an experienced dog and keep him on the leesh. How old do u wreckon he shud be before i shud give him a chance to chase agen? is there any point in letting him case rabbits he probs won't catch from time to time? thanks agen lapin I would try and avoid situations where there is loads of stuff about, if the dogs is wanting to chase them now the instinct will still be there in a few months time. I wouldnt worry about having him on the lead to watch another dog either as too much of this will frustrate him as well. Dont worry about rabbits too much at this stage just get it places with varying terrain (woods/fields/streams/the beach/fences/walls etc etc) where it can run around being a daft pup, its all learning how to move round/over/under stuff and IMO this will set it up better for the future than trying to catch stuff that it probably wont catch and wouldnt have the maturity to deal with if it did. IMO this is especially important as with its breeding it will be very fast so exposure to this stuff when not flat out chasing will be important to help develop the skills to avoid things when it is running fast. Also get it exposure to people, livestock and other dogs will stand you in good stead. Just focusing on basics like recall and retrieve, sit will not be time wasted. Most people will show them the odd easy rabbit at 10-14 months but all dogs will vary The above post by Lapin is the BEST advice you will get no matter who or wherever else you seek it?...it's no good sending a child to do a mans job is it?..no different with dogs..I'm in Cumbria and would have a walk out with you no problem but for now my advice would be to take on board to the letter what Lapin has said and it'll pay dividends in the long run and by doing so you will have given your dog every chance to show his true colours come the time he's ready for work...Atb Andy i will catch up with u sometime in the future for a mooch/lamp next season? 1 Quote Link to post
lapin2008 1,587 Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 thanks for everyone's help, very much appreciated,i will certainly take on board the advice atb Tom have fun! Quote Link to post
baz 463 Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 pip does want a bit more time to grow yet .unfortunatley mate.....any where local is pretty barron of bunnies round here now...im in barrow too. if you want to give it the chance to find its own and have a few runs you can try north end of wanley. park as far down on beach as you can. and walk down to sheep pens . if your wanting to eventually get amongst any numbers your going to have to travel. i can give you a few nights out next season if you want.... 1 Quote Link to post
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