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This started off as a young potential mole trapper, sharing his experiences and ended up a s**t storm,we need to nuture new starts,in every way possible if people have dreams of doing it proffesionaly

Probuck, my opinions on the number of molecatchers that are around these days is nothing to do with your little escapades, it stems from my observations from the real world, not The Hunting Life Forum

HI all just started mole trapping got five duffus mole traps and two talpax mole traps.Managed to get two moles last week and got home from school today and guess what 3 moles in the traps Also can a

thinking the same to about new people starting cos not many people doing traditional mole trapping these days

 

What gives you that idea?

 

I've been trapping moles for 35 years, and I'll tell you now, there has never been so many folks trying to catch the gentleman in velvet as there is now.

 

There is no shortage of wannabee mole trappers.

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thinking the same to about new people starting cos not many people doing traditional mole trapping these days

 

What gives you that idea?

 

I've been trapping moles for 35 years, and I'll tell you now, there has never been so many folks trying to catch the gentleman in velvet as there is now.

 

There is no shortage of wannabee mole trappers.

Well you see most pestcontrol companys wouldnt bother with traps that muck and they would just use mole smokes,this is just my view on mole trapping but if you have a different one thats fine it just my own opinion :thumbs: sorry if i affended you in any way

Happy Hunting Tom

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thinking the same to about new people starting cos not many people doing traditional mole trapping these days

 

What gives you that idea?

 

I've been trapping moles for 35 years, and I'll tell you now, there has never been so many folks trying to catch the gentleman in velvet as there is now.

 

There is no shortage of wannabee mole trappers.

Well you see most pestcontrol companys wouldnt bother with traps that muck and they would just use mole smokes,this is just my view on mole trapping but if you have a different one thats fine it just my own opinion :thumbs: sorry if i affended you in any way

Happy Hunting Tom

Wouldnt bother with traps that Much sorry my mistake

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Tom, my view on molecatching is based on many years experience.

 

What I'm suggesting to you is that you haven't done much research on the issue if you really believe that there is a shortage of traditional molecatchers.

 

Most pest control companies, both big and small, trap moles; including the biggest. When you write about 'mole smokes' I presume you are talking about gassing, which is not effective against moles, and is subject to very tight control. In fact, when the new RAMPS regulations come into full force during the next two years, fewer pest controllers will be able to offer gassing at all. Already the minimum distance from buildings has been reduced from 10 meters down to 5, which will effectively preclude it's use in small gardens.

 

I've nothing against a young lad learning how to catch a few moles; we all had to start somewhere. What I am saying is that just because you can catch a few moles doesn't make it possible to earn any serious money from it. The molecatching game is becoming more and more competitive with everyone and their dog offering the service, often at low prices.

 

I earn a substantial amount of money catching moles virtually full time. It's taken years of hard work to get to that stage, and I would urge anyone thinking of moles as easy money to have a long hard think about it first.

 

Probuck, your comments are offensive and unnecessary.

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Tom, my view on molecatching is based on many years experience.

 

What I'm suggesting to you is that you haven't done much research on the issue if you really believe that there is a shortage of traditional molecatchers.

 

Most pest control companies, both big and small, trap moles; including the biggest. When you write about 'mole smokes' I presume you are talking about gassing, which is not effective against moles, and is subject to very tight control. In fact, when the new RAMPS regulations come into full force during the next two years, fewer pest controllers will be able to offer gassing at all. Already the minimum distance from buildings has been reduced from 10 meters down to 5, which will effectively preclude it's use in small gardens.

 

I've nothing against a young lad learning how to catch a few moles; we all had to start somewhere. What I am saying is that just because you can catch a few moles doesn't make it possible to earn any serious money from it. The molecatching game is becoming more and more competitive with everyone and their dog offering the service, often at low prices.

 

I earn a substantial amount of money catching moles virtually full time. It's taken years of hard work to get to that stage, and I would urge anyone thinking of moles as easy money to have a long hard think about it first.

 

Probuck, your comments are offensive and necessary.

the new regulations will only make matters worse when it comes to part time mole catchers, most of my trapping and pest control is already done in exchange for shooting, dog work or fishing rights these days, as even out in the countryside theres 100`s of short term experts willing to undercut each other to the point its no longer a viable option to do it for financial reward

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thinking the same to about new people starting cos not many people doing traditional mole trapping these days

 

What gives you that idea?

 

I've been trapping moles for 35 years, and I'll tell you now, there has never been so many folks trying to catch the gentleman in velvet as there is now.

 

There is no shortage of wannabee mole trappers.

Well you see most pestcontrol companys wouldnt bother with traps that muck and they would just use mole smokes,this is just my view on mole trapping but if you have a different one thats fine it just my own opinion :thumbs: sorry if i affended you in any way

Happy Hunting Tom

Wouldnt bother with traps that Much sorry my mistake

 

There is no shortage of wannabee mole trappers.

Who, me.?

 

Nah Im not offencive old lad...I just say it how it is. You know, like some do.

 

Its like you say in your more recent post, Everyone has to start somewhere ;)

By the way, did you mean Un-nessasery or was somthing going on in your sub conciouse.

 

Marty :thumbs:

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Probuck, my opinions on the number of molecatchers that are around these days is nothing to do with your little escapades, it stems from my observations from the real world, not The Hunting Life Forum.

 

Just take a look on google; there are lots of people claiming to offer traditional molecatching now, and at least three organisations promoting the subject; two of which offer training to help shortcut the essential learning curve some of us have gained over years of work.

 

Also, most pest control companies; including the top five, now offer a mole trapping service. I now that because I've held senior management roles in two of those five companies, and in at least one of those companies, led the move away from toxic mole control and onto trapping.

 

What I'm saying is that this theory that somehow traditional mole catchers are a dying breed is nonsense. In all my years I've never known so many people doing the job, be that for money, permission or just a hobby.

 

Before anyone considers offering a commercial service of mole control they need to seriously think about the work available. Just being able to set a few traps and kill a few moles does not automatically mean that there is a demand for yet more 'Traditional Mole Controllers' and running a business is not just about being able to kill pests.

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Your taking it all way to seriouse Matt & looking into it all way to deepley, alot of people probabley dont care what you think at all...Like me..no offence.

 

Your right about the money making organisations trying to make a fast buck out of folk that want to give moleing a blast..they Suck big time, you cant beat years of trail and error and back breaking day's of probing and digging around and getting all pissed off over a mole thats running you round like a man possesed. Lets put it this way, you wouldnt find me giving my money away to some pompuse know it all to learn how to catch anything least of all a poxy mole. Learn by your misstakes, that what makes you who you are today and in the future.

 

As for the real world Matt, you need to get with the program, there's always the next generation creeping up on you wearey old bones & Im affraid its time to move over and make room for the mushrooms...excuse the punn..no offence aimed.

 

Where i live no farmer or land owner gives a flying monkey sh*t what quallifications you've got, if you can catch a mole..well off you go...This is the reall world by the way matt im afraid. I could go on and on but its quite clear that you just so happen to have be cought up in somthings that nobody really cares about so much...No offence.

 

LIVE AND LET LIVE ;)

 

Marty :thumbs:

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Probuck, you seem to have completely misunderstood the point I was trying to make.

 

Tom thinks that there is a shortage of mole catchers, and that pest control companies only use 'smoke'.

 

Neither of which is correct.

 

I'm not scared of the next generation; in fact, I've helped a few lads out in the past, and I'll continue doing so providing they don't take the piss. Middle aged wannabies on the other hand can forget it.

 

As to the rest, I don't really give a stuff what people think; each to his or her own. But if a lad thinks that mole catching is an easy living, then I'm duty bound to offer my opinion that he is heading for a fall.

 

If you don't like it, then tough shit really matey. I'll carry on doing my own thing and add you to my 'ignore' list along with Logun and one or two other know it alls.

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This started off as a young potential mole trapper, sharing his experiences and ended up a s**t storm,we need to nuture new starts,in every way possible if people have dreams of doing it proffesionaly,' why not 'as in most things the realities of doing it full time soon make the enthusiasm fade,and the ones who are serious and motivated and driven, push through and make a career out of it like MATT,and I hope Tom but for the boys sake lets keep it light hearted,encourage him where we can, and try and keep him on the right side of the tracks,lead by example not manage by exception,god knows what the combined experience of everyone on here is,its massive between us all, we can make our lifes persuit, so much more understandable for people who come into this game and try to re-promote the hunting shooting trapping game,as good ambassador's and destroy the discriminatory predjudice's of the narrow minded do-gooder's,well sorry Boy's thats my rant over with,

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