IanS 3 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 I’m a bit confused since I understand if you use a FAC weapon for hunting the land needs to be checked by the Police for suitability but if you use a Sect 2/SGC Shotgun all you need if land owner permission and common sense so what happens if you have a Sect 1 Shotgun would the FAC rules apply meaning you would then have to get Police check done on the land you previous shot with a sect 2 shotgun since the gun is now in the FAC category?? Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 According to the Home Office guidance, conditions restricting a Sec.1 shotgun to specific pieces of land are not normally used unless it is to be used solely for something like Practical Shotgun competitions. So it can be used anywhere you have permission for whatever species you are allowed to shoot according to your FAC. Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,780 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 According to the Home Office guidance, conditions restricting a Sec.1 shotgun to specific pieces of land are not normally used unless it is to be used solely for something like Practical Shotgun competitions. So it can be used anywhere you have permission for whatever species you are allowed to shoot according to your FAC. Would you still be required (as with a rifle) to provide permission letters and landowner info with the application SS? Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 BH, Still need to have your permission to use the gun on a certain piece of land as with all FAC stuff, but once granted the shotgun will become effectively "unrestricted" as to where it could be used. Much like a completely open certificate. That is unless it's for purely practical shotgun shooting where it may be restricted to something like "For use on H.O. approved ranges for Practical Shotgun purposes" And you need a "Good Reason" to have one too. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 BH, Still need to have your permission to use the gun on a certain piece of land as with all FAC stuff, but once granted the shotgun will become effectively "unrestricted" as to where it could be used. Much like a completely open certificate. That is unless it's for purely practical shotgun shooting where it may be restricted to something like "For use on H.O. approved ranges for Practical Shotgun purposes" And you need a "Good Reason" to have one too. is "you can shoot lots of shit with one" a good reason :laugh: Quote Link to post
The one 8,483 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 Is I need more than three shots a good one Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 BH, Still need to have your permission to use the gun on a certain piece of land as with all FAC stuff, but once granted the shotgun will become effectively "unrestricted" as to where it could be used. Much like a completely open certificate. That is unless it's for purely practical shotgun shooting where it may be restricted to something like "For use on H.O. approved ranges for Practical Shotgun purposes" And you need a "Good Reason" to have one too. is "you can shoot lots of shit with one" a good reason :laugh: In my book, yes The more chances you get at that Magpie you just can't nail is a good reason. Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,780 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 I've always thought a 5 shot auto or pump would be right at home on the squirrels. I do a bit on them now and again and relentlessly kill them in the spinneys, quite often having to reload the auto. One shot in the drey, two might bolt, sometimes they can be real tricky buggers darting about often at close range. Not often I need to reload on fox but would be comforting knowing I've plenty in the gun in such situations. Also, obviously rabbiting. It's something I'm considering. Be very usefull for pest control. Quote Link to post
IanS 3 Posted March 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 So if its say 9 shot FAC shotgun all FAC rifle rules apply but if i was to put it back to only 2+1 for hunting i presume since its already registerd as a FAC it wouldnt make any difference? Quote Link to post
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Once a shotgun has been made FAC (IE more than 2 carts in the mag) then it cannot be made back into a non FAC shotgun, in the eyes of the law. Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Once a shotgun has been made FAC (IE more than 2 carts in the mag) then it cannot be made back into a non FAC shotgun, in the eyes of the law. Yes you can but it involves a trip to the proof house for the gun Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 when the law changed most 4 shot tubes were crimped to hold just 2 Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 when the law changed most 4 shot tubes were crimped to hold just 2 It's basically a paper excercise. There is no offence for a shooter or RFD where a gun is given to a gunsmith as a S.1 shotgun, sent to the proof house to be certified as restricted to 2+1 and then entered onto an SGC by that same RFD. The only total restriction is with Section 5 firearms where they are always S.5 and cannot be altered to S.1 or S.2, the only way they can be converted to something else is to be totally deactivated. Quote Link to post
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Once a shotgun has been made FAC (IE more than 2 carts in the mag) then it cannot be made back into a non FAC shotgun, in the eyes of the law. Yes you can but it involves a trip to the proof house for the gun I stand corrected on that one. Cheers SS. Just goes to show that FEOs don't always tell the truth (as if I didn't know already lol) Quote Link to post
richmcgin 32 Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 when the law changed most 4 shot tubes were crimped to hold just 2 It's basically a paper excercise. There is no offence for a shooter or RFD where a gun is given to a gunsmith as a S.1 shotgun, sent to the proof house to be certified as restricted to 2+1 and then entered onto an SGC by that same RFD. The only total restriction is with Section 5 firearms where they are always S.5 and cannot be altered to S.1 or S.2, the only way they can be converted to something else is to be totally deactivated. have done this when i sold a 5 shot pump, it was cheep and quick to do. Quote Link to post
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