.22 Wmr With 30Grain Hornady V-Max Rounds.

[jam1e 12]

I've seen some footage of the above combo on youtube and wondered if anyone out there was using the same set-up?

I'm particularly interested in the trajectory. Is it very flat?

On the face of it, it seems a reasonable compromise between 22lr and the .17HMR. Or is it.......

[charlie caller 3,654]

I've seen some footage of the above combo on youtube and wondered if anyone out there was using the same set-up?

I'm particularly interested in the trajectory. Is it very flat?

On the face of it, it seems a reasonable compromise between 22lr and the .17HMR. Or is it.......

Well it has more power than hmr,carries its downrange energy better,better in the wind,and you can have a semi auto, no brainer if you ask me,but then I am biased as I hate hmrs, lol.

[jam1e 12]

 

I've seen some footage of the above combo on youtube and wondered if anyone out there was using the same set-up?

I'm particularly interested in the trajectory. Is it very flat?

On the face of it, it seems a reasonable compromise between 22lr and the .17HMR. Or is it.......

Well it has more power than hmr,carries its downrange energy better,better in the wind,and you can have a semi auto, no brainer if you ask me,but then I am biased as I hate hmrs, lol.

 

Have you used and owned a .22WMR using Hornady V-Max?

I do like my HMR, but the .22WMR with said rounds seems a good set-up. Retains energy, (So i'm told?) Is almost double the weight if the .17 grain so harder hitting and better in wind. These are more questions than statements to be fair...

[charlie caller 3,654]

never owned one,but have used one with vmax,I was most impressed,and have also seen foxes dropped at well over a hundred yds with one,in fact, I keep toying with the idea of getting one in semi auto.

[jam1e 12]

never owned one,but have used one with vmax,I was most impressed,and have also seen foxes dropped at well over a hundred yds with one,in fact, I keep toying with the idea of getting one in semi auto.

 

I recon that would be a great idea!

Edited February 26, 2013 by jam1e

[dedger 16]

The Wmr doesn't shoot as flat as the Hmr, even with the 30grain rounds they are travelling 500ft/sec slower than a 17gr Hmr and in calm conditions is nowhere near as accurate, as far as the wind is concerned I havent tried both of them in strong winds.

[charlie caller 3,654]

Up to a point it does not shoot quite as flat,however,it does retain its energy better,and like any calibre you must practice and find its strong points,as for accuracy the one my freind has,cz semi auto,is a very accurate rifle,certainly good enough to head shoot bunnies at 100 yds plus,and of course having a semi auto is very useful if you are going to shoot the odd fox with it,however all that said I would always try to steer people towards a .22 hornet if the land is cleared,it is so much better than any rimfire,and you can really make it shine by reloading for it.

[halamrose 24]

Isn't this a slippery slope? If 22 Hornet why not 223, or 22-250 or 243? Each step gives a bit more , so how do you decide where to stop?

[charlie caller 3,654]

Isn't this a slippery slope? If 22 Hornet why not 223, or 22-250 or 243? Each step gives a bit more , so how do you decide where to stop?

I can see where you are coming from,but lets look at economics as a point in case,a .22 hornet is roughly 3 times the power of your hmr,wmr ect, now if you reload(and this is the way to get the best from a hornet) the hornet will propel 35gn vmax @ over 3000fps with a paltry 12.3 gns of powder,so allowing the shooter to humanely kill foxes @ ranges out to 150-200 yds,it will also deal with any other quarry, Ie bunnies, crows ect @ long range,way past rimmy range,with a good sound mod it is relatively quiet for a cf,so from an economics point of veiw (if you reload) a hornet is a sensible step up from a rimfire,as a rough estimate I reckon you can load round for about 30-40p each, which you wont do in your .222,.223.22-250 ect.

[Deker 3,478]

The Wmr doesn't shoot as flat as the Hmr, even with the 30grain rounds they are travelling 500ft/sec slower than a 17gr Hmr and in calm conditions is nowhere near as accurate, as far as the wind is concerned I havent tried both of them in strong winds.

Hornady 17HMR V-Max 2550 ft sec

Hornady 30g WMR V-Max 2200 ft sec

500ft sec slower??????????

 

As regards nowhere near as accurate, I can generally get 15-20 mm groups with HMR and 20-25mm groups with WMR. Bearing in mind the extra size and weight of the WMR nothing much is going to worry about that.

 

I certainly agree that I can't get the groups as tight with the WMR as HMR but I do not agree that they are nowhere near as accurate.

 

The arc isn't as flat, but again its not really worth talking about the difference with these two rounds out to 100 yards, move up to the 40-50g WMR and the arc is obviously not as good!

 

The 30g WMR V-Max is now my mainstay WMR ammo, it works on everything!

[Deker 3,478]

I've seen some footage of the above combo on youtube and wondered if anyone out there was using the same set-up?

I'm particularly interested in the trajectory. Is it very flat?

On the face of it, it seems a reasonable compromise between 22lr and the .17HMR. Or is it.......

 

I don't see it as a compromise between the .22 and HMR at all, in principle it stands above both and delivers more grunt in a bigger round than HMR, and is very effective on the Fox and Canada Geese, no need for..."I only ever take head shots"................... of course they work well, but foxes and Canadas fall over if you hit them anywhere vaguely important with a 30g V-Max WMR!

 

Yes, its pretty flat, not quite as flat as the HMR.

 

I pay £10 x 1000 more for Hornady 30g V-Max WMR than Hornady 17g V-Max HMR BLUE, the Red Hornady HMR are £10 more than the WMR!

 

Just the same, if you may be contemplating a move to WMR, I'd hold off if possible, just until we find out a bit more about the new .17 Win Mag!

[Deker 3,478]

And you can get some half decent wood on a CZ, my WMR American......

 

[jam1e 12]

Interesting views, thanks folks.

I have a cf, but i'm looking at getting a dedicated nv rimfire rifle set-up.

I like the extra mass the wmr has, and also the fact that i could have a semi for a change....

 

Thinking about it, when i put in for a variation, do i just ask for aother .22lr or do i have to state .22WMR?

Edited February 26, 2013 by jam1e

[dedger 16]

Don't believe everything it says on the tin, I have chronographed hundreds of the Hmr and the Wmr Vmax the Hmr are on average 2703fps and the Wmr are 2191fps in my maths thats 512fps difference, I'm not knocking either round they are both pretty good my .22 mustn't like the hornady's because I can't get tight groups at a hundred yards but can with the HMR.

[paulus 26]

And you can get some half decent wood on a CZ, my WMR American......

 

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nice looker that, i too have been looking at wmr as a carry about gun for opportunistic shoots at fox and things. also it would silence quite well compared to a c/f, so in theory should attract little attension daytime in places quite close to civilization. as ive stated before ive had bad expierences with the hmr and fox`s even with head shots.