john b 38 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 I know what you mean Logun, but funnily enough it seems to work better if you don't. It's almost as if having looked at the empty nest on and off for a while and not been able to investigate - once there IS an egg there and they can get it, the temptation is just too much. That's not based on a proper scientific study though Oh and Millets points are quite valid. A trap left unset and so unchecked will become part of the familiar environment more quickly. Quote Link to post
logun 91 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Not realy logun..if you leave the trap open it need's checking regular thus spooking anything in the area..if you leave it shut or unset for a while or locked open the prey species will get confident without being disturbed twice a day by daily checking.. each to they own but a pre baited trap that cant catch is a pointless exercise to me... so if it was locked oppen would you allow thhe bird to enter each day ,,take the bait before you decide to set for a catch.... best bait this time of year with hard frosts etc is rabbit . Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Yes each to there own.. Quote Link to post
logun 91 Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 john i can see your thoughts on this but you just as well put an egg in a made up nest to start with maybe..it will crab they attention first time around...and speed the trapping process up.... we all differ tho. Quote Link to post
john b 38 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 My theory, and it is just a theory, is this. How often in nature does a nest appear overnight with an egg already in it ? Never would be my guess. However a new nest in a familiar territory implies a mated pair that are ready to have a brood. Time and again I see magpies returning to watch nest builders in hedges, keeping a distance but getting to know where the nest is likely to be. My approach tries to mimic the cycle in nature - allowing the magpies to discover a new nest and keep coming back looking for the eggs. . One thing that all the great trappers seems to be in agreement about is that the best results come when you think like the animal you're trying to catch. I may well be crediting them with too much intelligence but it seems to work for me. Quote Link to post
toby63 1,236 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I'm in the gun club but no one really knows much about trapping as far as I can see. Myself and my young fella are running 5 mink traps aswell. They are going a bit better. The club secretary contacted the local game council to see about a call bird but as of yet we have heard nothing. Carlow, What are you using for bait? Toby will try that tomorrow or would I be aswell off doing it tonight? just keep a steady amount of bread there to build there confidence Quote Link to post
Probuk 93 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I had 168 maggpies in my trap last year. Try feeding them with dog food..dry or meat. Keep it on top for a few days, then one of the days just put the food in the trap sections and they'll go in for it. Just got my trap out for the same thing but all the other birds in my garden are beating them to it at the moment. Marty 1 Quote Link to post
Probuk 93 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Got my first bird this morning Marty. 1 Quote Link to post
Jimy1971 13 Posted February 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 I've was given a live bird by a mate yesterday but there's not a sound out of it in the trap.Is this normal? Do they need time to get adjusted and start calling? Quote Link to post
Carlowhunter 27 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Glad you got a bird Jimmy because I havent caught one since. I will move my trap on saturday. As long as the bird is hopping around in the cage it will attract other magpies! Edited February 28, 2013 by Carlowhunter Quote Link to post
remi700 99 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Aye they dont often call when your watching them but they'll be calling in the early mornings and thats when you'll find you catch most of your birds. Keep your trap moving is the biggest secret. It dosnt take much to 100 yards can often make the difference. If you dont catch for a day move your trap! Atb. read them out of it! 1 Quote Link to post
Probuk 93 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) I've was given a live bird by a mate yesterday but there's not a sound out of it in the trap.Is this normal? Do they need time to get adjusted and start calling? The males tend to be the better call birds.. the more dominant he is the better he'll call. Youl know you have a good one when he kills any of the birds you put in with him..keep him as long as possible Dont worry about a bird that seems mute, take it out of the area you cought it, these birds are very territorial and it wont take long before another bird from a new area comes to investigate it. The above post is also good advice . Marty Edited March 1, 2013 by Probuk Quote Link to post
Jimy1971 13 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Remi I moved it earlier and stuck on my mates ucaller. Every magpie round here came into the yard but didn't go into the trap. Fuc***s lol Probuck Bird was caught about 10 miles away Quote Link to post
Probuk 93 Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Remi I moved it earlier and stuck on my mates ucaller. Every magpie round here came into the yard but didn't go into the trap. Fuc***s lol Probuck Bird was caught about 10 miles away Be patiant mate, Magpies are very intelligent, there the kind of birds along with crow, jackdaws and jays that are good at working out puzzel's..if theres food in your trap IT WILL GO IN. Try not to disturb them and stay out of sight. Its only a matter of time mate. By the sound of it , if you have them visiting now there will be one or more in it by late morning today. ATB Marty Quote Link to post
Probuk 93 Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 (edited) What food you using.? I use cheap dry cat food, they love it. Dont do the egg thing you'll get nowhere, or the dead rabbit on top. Feed them on the top of the trap till there use to landing and feeding with confidence. Then tie a food bowl leavel with the pirch inside the trap, no need to put food on top once you put it in the trap as you want them to go inside to feed. Look at it this way.. Your trap is basiclly a feeding station for magpies just be patiant and it will all come together. If I knew how Id put a film clip on here to show you just how easy it is. . Good luck, and let us know how you get on. ATB Marty Edited March 1, 2013 by Probuk Quote Link to post
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