Day Walkers

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

 

 

 

ive found i can learn a lot from daywalkers ie conditioning of dogs and correct food i know plenty of lampers who feed plain dry food some real rubbish some good every daywalker ive spoke to feed top knotch food , iam a lamper by the way but enjoy daytime , i wont knock anyones past time aslong as they are getting out there and keeping there dogs at it rather than sitting letting there dogs stare at the kennel walls whilst the owner is keyboard bashing

It's not just daywalkers that know how to condition dogs and feed them the best, far from it, and alot of em could still learn alot from those that aint into matching their dogs

shaaark 99% of daywalkers do not match their dogs and do not broadcast it on a internet forum what their doing with their dogs but what i will say is ive seen a lot of lamp dogs whos owners considered them very lamp fit come out for a days running on longears on big land with no hiding places .and their dogs havnt been able to get of their beds for days and gone of their food .and ive seen this more than the once or twice . it doesnt mean the owners cant condition a dog but imo a daytime dog needs to be a lot fitter than otherdogs to do their job properly.

Have you ever seen coursing dogs lamp on more than once or twice occasions?

Coursing dogs do make good lampers and are able to do both . Lampers , however, don't have the lung for daytime hares ! The bulldozer was started off on the lamp and caught most of what was put in front of him . You reckon it's all about the money baw , but when have you heard of bulldozer being at open studd ? Where have you seen him advertised at studd like the Irish dog ? No, you haven't ! The reason jack asks £1000 is so he don't get loads of messers and men wanting to use him on any old rubbish ! If he was in it for the money he could have them queuing up for 500 a pop! It makes me laugh that you have started a topic on daytime coursing which judging by your post you obviously know very little about . It's all theory and conclusions drawn from debates on here and not from practical experience . You really have got the wronge end of the stick on lots of issues !

stubblerash, I've been coming on here for more years than I care to remember. From day 1, I've been giving you fen boys it tight. I've seen the passing of plenty and I mean plenty of you, I'm still standing. If my knowledge was soley from on here, don't you think I'd have been found out a looooooong time ago? Don't try to make yourself look important by coming out with that pish. When it comes to looking daft on here, you and baldrick have that sewn up back to your points.... So bulldozer was an excellent lamper as well as the best dog on the fens. What a dog..... And it has managed to master both and its only how old? Yes he doesn't need to advertise, why would he. He gets all the publicity he needs from cheerleaders like you. As for a grand stud fees to keep away the shitty dogs and messers...... Here's a novel idea..... Just breed the dog with his own or bitches he choses!!!?

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

 

 

 

ive found i can learn a lot from daywalkers ie conditioning of dogs and correct food i know plenty of lampers who feed plain dry food some real rubbish some good every daywalker ive spoke to feed top knotch food , iam a lamper by the way but enjoy daytime , i wont knock anyones past time aslong as they are getting out there and keeping there dogs at it rather than sitting letting there dogs stare at the kennel walls whilst the owner is keyboard bashing

It's not just daywalkers that know how to condition dogs and feed them the best, far from it, and alot of em could still learn alot from those that aint into matching their dogs

shaaark 99% of daywalkers do not match their dogs and do not broadcast it on a internet forum what their doing with their dogs but what i will say is ive seen a lot of lamp dogs whos owners considered them very lamp fit come out for a days running on longears on big land with no hiding places .and their dogs havnt been able to get of their beds for days and gone of their food .and ive seen this more than the once or twice . it doesnt mean the owners cant condition a dog but imo a daytime dog needs to be a lot fitter than otherdogs to do their job properly.

Have you ever seen coursing dogs lamp on more than once or twice occasions?

Coursing dogs do make good lampers and are able to do both . Lampers , however, don't have the lung for daytime hares ! The bulldozer was started off on the lamp and caught most of what was put in front of him . You reckon it's all about the money baw , but when have you heard of bulldozer being at open studd ? Where have you seen him advertised at studd like the Irish dog ? No, you haven't ! The reason jack asks £1000 is so he don't get loads of messers and men wanting to use him on any old rubbish ! If he was in it for the money he could have them queuing up for 500 a pop! It makes me laugh that you have started a topic on daytime coursing which judging by your post you obviously know very little about . It's all theory and conclusions drawn from debates on here and not from practical experience . You really have got the wronge end of the stick on lots of issues !

stubblerash, I've been coming on here for more years than I care to remember. From day 1, I've been giving you fen boys it tight. I've seen the passing of plenty and I mean plenty of you, I'm still standing. If my knowledge was soley from on here, don't you think I'd have been found out a looooooong time ago? Don't try to make yourself look important by coming out with that pish. When it comes to looking daft on here, you and baldrick have that sewn up back to your points.... So bulldozer was an excellent lamper as well as the best dog on the fens. What a dog..... And it has managed to master both and its only how old? Yes he doesn't need to advertise, why would he. He gets all the publicity he needs from cheerleaders like you. As for a grand stud fees to keep away the shitty dogs and messers...... Here's a novel idea..... Just breed the dog with his own or bitches he choses!!!?

[desertbred 5,490]

just get out and run your dogs on any land if they havent got the wind you can always get them lamping

[baw 4,360]

baw dont think its only the plodders that can catch on the big land plenty of other types can and do on a regular basis in fact theres not many i know of nowadays who run that type of dog most prefer the faster type with things as they are regarding the ban.what i was saying was i have seen quite a lot of lampers lying on their bed exhausted after a day out on the big land, that is not being detrimental to the dog or their owners who are freinds of mine and keep their dogs very fit and are good stockmen but and its a big but take the day dog out on the lamp and he will run all nightand still be ok the next day thats the differance and point i was trying to put over .difficult sometimes on these friffin computers lol.

Pmsl boyo, I hear you pal but I'm not sure it's as cut and dry as that. I know everyone hates the guy but no one can deny his dog sees a LOT of work in a night, the infamous Mark Brick. You'd be hard pushed to find a daytime dog that can out last his. He even managed to burn out a minshaw and ohhh, his dogs ain't too bad on big land either as miles will testify

[baw 4,360]

just get out and run your dogs on any land if they havent got the wind you can always get them lamping

aye, a lot of failed daytime dogs have killed many a lamped hare.

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

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can I do your marketing? Please go on pwwwweeeeeeeease

you wouldnt make a penny he gives the feckers away everytime

I was thinking more in the lines of T shirts

[bird 9,876]

 

baw dont think its only the plodders that can catch on the big land plenty of other types can and do on a regular basis in fact theres not many i know of nowadays who run that type of dog most prefer the faster type with things as they are regarding the ban.what i was saying was i have seen quite a lot of lampers lying on their bed exhausted after a day out on the big land, that is not being detrimental to the dog or their owners who are freinds of mine and keep their dogs very fit and are good stockmen but and its a big but take the day dog out on the lamp and he will run all nightand still be ok the next day thats the differance and point i was trying to put over .difficult sometimes on these friffin computers lol.

Pmsl boyo, I hear you pal but I'm not sure it's as cut and dry as that. I know everyone hates the guy but no one can deny his dog sees a LOT of work in a night, the infamous Mark Brick. You'd be hard pushed to find a daytime dog that can out last his. He even managed to burn out a minshaw and ohhh, his dogs ain't too bad on big land either as miles will testify

 

ive always thought that drop of coursing blood x to a good lamping type dog, would give you great animal fot night work. I think lot of salukix lurchers when run in lamp, seem to just put enough speed iinto each run, so can get good bags as night goes on, where as my dog 1x colliex grey Bryn is fast with each run, yeh colliex !! will run from start to finisn the same and done this 40-50 runs in a night, and always get a good bag . So a coursing type dog could make a very good lamping dog.!

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ive found i can learn a lot from daywalkers ie conditioning of dogs and correct food i know plenty of lampers who feed plain dry food some real rubbish some good every daywalker ive spoke to feed top knotch food , iam a lamper by the way but enjoy daytime , i wont knock anyones past time aslong as they are getting out there and keeping there dogs at it rather than sitting letting there dogs stare at the kennel walls whilst the owner is keyboard bashing

It's not just daywalkers that know how to condition dogs and feed them the best, far from it, and alot of em could still learn alot from those that aint into matching their dogs

shaaark 99% of daywalkers do not match their dogs and do not broadcast it on a internet forum what their doing with their dogs but what i will say is ive seen a lot of lamp dogs whos owners considered them very lamp fit come out for a days running on longears on big land with no hiding places .and their dogs havnt been able to get of their beds for days and gone of their food .and ive seen this more than the once or twice . it doesnt mean the owners cant condition a dog but imo a daytime dog needs to be a lot fitter than otherdogs to do their job properly.

Have you ever seen coursing dogs lamp on more than once or twice occasions?

With respect the idea that a top daytime dog cannot be a good lamper is rubbish.I have a good mate who runs day and night, his dogs knock them over regularly at both disciplines.A clever dog knows when to go up through the gears ,and conversely when to settle down behind its quarry. Lamping dogs ,or at least those without Saluki blood ,will struggle to catch hares on a regular basis in the daylight, if the hares are afforded fair law.

I wasn't getting at hare dogs not catching on the lamp, if they're trained to do both obviously they will. It was more the fitness issue. If a dogs used soley for daytime and one for lamping, you can't say one is fitter than the other. They run differently as you've pointed out. One that's been conditioned for both disciplines is an entirely different animal.

[stubblebasher 150]

 

 

 

 

 

 

ive found i can learn a lot from daywalkers ie conditioning of dogs and correct food i know plenty of lampers who feed plain dry food some real rubbish some good every daywalker ive spoke to feed top knotch food , iam a lamper by the way but enjoy daytime , i wont knock anyones past time aslong as they are getting out there and keeping there dogs at it rather than sitting letting there dogs stare at the kennel walls whilst the owner is keyboard bashing

It's not just daywalkers that know how to condition dogs and feed them the best, far from it, and alot of em could still learn alot from those that aint into matching their dogs

shaaark 99% of daywalkers do not match their dogs and do not broadcast it on a internet forum what their doing with their dogs but what i will say is ive seen a lot of lamp dogs whos owners considered them very lamp fit come out for a days running on longears on big land with no hiding places .and their dogs havnt been able to get of their beds for days and gone of their food .and ive seen this more than the once or twice . it doesnt mean the owners cant condition a dog but imo a daytime dog needs to be a lot fitter than otherdogs to do their job properly.

Have you ever seen coursing dogs lamp on more than once or twice occasions?

Coursing dogs do make good lampers and are able to do both . Lampers , however, don't have the lung for daytime hares ! The bulldozer was started off on the lamp and caught most of what was put in front of him . You reckon it's all about the money baw , but when have you heard of bulldozer being at open studd ? Where have you seen him advertised at studd like the Irish dog ? No, you haven't ! The reason jack asks £1000 is so he don't get loads of messers and men wanting to use him on any old rubbish ! If he was in it for the money he could have them queuing up for 500 a pop! It makes me laugh that you have started a topic on daytime coursing which judging by your post you obviously know very little about . It's all theory and conclusions drawn from debates on here and not from practical experience . You really have got the wronge end of the stick on lots of issues !

stubblerash, I've been coming on here for more years than I care to remember. From day 1, I've been giving you fen boys it tight. I've seen the passing of plenty and I mean plenty of you, I'm still standing. If my knowledge was soley from on here, don't you think I'd have been found out a looooooong time ago? Don't try to make yourself look important by coming out with that pish. When it comes to looking daft on here, you and baldrick have that sewn up back to your points.... So bulldozer was an excellent lamper as well as the best dog on the fens. What a dog..... And it has managed to master both and its only how old? Yes he doesn't need to advertise, why would he. He gets all the publicity he needs from cheerleaders like you. As for a grand stud fees to keep away the shitty dogs and messers...... Here's a novel idea..... Just breed the dog with his own or bitches he choses!!!?

[inan 841]

 

baw dont think its only the plodders that can catch on the big land plenty of other types can and do on a regular basis in fact theres not many i know of nowadays who run that type of dog most prefer the faster type with things as they are regarding the ban.what i was saying was i have seen quite a lot of lampers lying on their bed exhausted after a day out on the big land, that is not being detrimental to the dog or their owners who are freinds of mine and keep their dogs very fit and are good stockmen but and its a big but take the day dog out on the lamp and he will run all nightand still be ok the next day thats the differance and point i was trying to put over .difficult sometimes on these friffin computers lol.

Pmsl boyo, I hear you pal but I'm not sure it's as cut and dry as that. I know everyone hates the guy but no one can deny his dog sees a LOT of work in a night, the infamous Mark Brick. You'd be hard pushed to find a daytime dog that can out last his. He even managed to burn out a minshaw and ohhh, his dogs ain't too bad on big land either as miles will testify

I think you'd need to go into the circumstances , and the events of that day before making a judgement on how Kat runs on the big land. I give it to the dog as a lamper.

[stubblebasher 150]

Where did I say he was an excellent lamper or the best dog on the fen !? Like I said he's not been advertised at studd he's only gone to top bitches , due to his reputation and breeding , owned by men who are in the know . He hasn't had a load of straws taken followed by a big advert in the c m w ! Get down the fen and experience first hand what your talking about

[inan 841]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ive found i can learn a lot from daywalkers ie conditioning of dogs and correct food i know plenty of lampers who feed plain dry food some real rubbish some good every daywalker ive spoke to feed top knotch food , iam a lamper by the way but enjoy daytime , i wont knock anyones past time aslong as they are getting out there and keeping there dogs at it rather than sitting letting there dogs stare at the kennel walls whilst the owner is keyboard bashing

It's not just daywalkers that know how to condition dogs and feed them the best, far from it, and alot of em could still learn alot from those that aint into matching their dogs

shaaark 99% of daywalkers do not match their dogs and do not broadcast it on a internet forum what their doing with their dogs but what i will say is ive seen a lot of lamp dogs whos owners considered them very lamp fit come out for a days running on longears on big land with no hiding places .and their dogs havnt been able to get of their beds for days and gone of their food .and ive seen this more than the once or twice . it doesnt mean the owners cant condition a dog but imo a daytime dog needs to be a lot fitter than otherdogs to do their job properly.

Have you ever seen coursing dogs lamp on more than once or twice occasions?

With respect the idea that a top daytime dog cannot be a good lamper is rubbish.I have a good mate who runs day and night, his dogs knock them over regularly at both disciplines.A clever dog knows when to go up through the gears ,and conversely when to settle down behind its quarry. Lamping dogs ,or at least those without Saluki blood ,will struggle to catch hares on a regular basis in the daylight, if the hares are afforded fair law.

I wasn't getting at hare dogs not catching on the lamp, if they're trained to do both obviously they will. It was more the fitness issue. If a dogs used soley for daytime and one for lamping, you can't say one is fitter than the other. They run differently as you've pointed out. One that's been conditioned for both disciplines is an entirely different animal.

How exactly would you do this? You get your dog fit by whatever method you choose biking/roadwork, and running free. Fit is fit . A dog that can handle 3 long runs daytime will cope with a nights lamping no probs.

A dog that can do a night on the lamp will still struggle with 3 long runs on big land, unless he is saluki blooded.

 

I would expect my dogs to catch either day or night.

[bigdaz 688]

I'm going off on a tangent here, but who remembers Plummer stating that there were only a very limited number of dogs in the country capable of killing three from three hares in January giving fair law on a regular basis. The amount of people who lambasted him and asked for Don Southards phone number to prove their dogs were capable was staggering. I might be wrong but if I remember correctly only one man took up the challenge after all the testosterone had abated, seemed they didn't quite have the confidence in their dog that they thought they had.

I'm a fan of all types of running dogs, but I'm not kidding myself on, I could go to the dog pound today and pick any skinny cur and with minimum effort it would attain decent bags on the lamp. I couldn't say the same of a dog required to do the job Plummer spoke of.

[inan 841]

I'm going off on a tangent here, but who remembers Plummer stating that there were only a very limited number of dogs in the country capable of killing three from three hares in January giving fair law on a regular basis. The amount of people who lambasted him and asked for Don Southards phone number to prove their dogs were capable was staggering. I might be wrong but if I remember correctly only one man took up the challenge after all the testosterone had abated, seemed they didn't quite have the confidence in their dog that they thought they had.

I'm a fan of all types of running dogs, but I'm not kidding myself on, I could go to the dog pound today and pick any skinny cur and with minimum effort it would attain decent bags on the lamp. I couldn't say the same of a dog required to do the job Plummer spoke of.

Plummer did not know a great deal about coursing imo .What he spouted he mostly cribbed off Don and others. He never owned a real decent coursing dog himself.

Plummer's statement that there were only a handful of dogs in the country capable of taking 3 out of 3 hares , given fair law,was a marketing ploy designed to keep readers writing in to the CW ,and buying his books, and at that he was remarkably successful . Factor in also that the influence of saluki blood was only just beginning to make itself apparent in day time running, meant that the pool of top drawer animals was smaller. imo.

 

Entertaining writer, but I would take a lot of his spiel with a large dose of salt.

[baw 4,360]

Where did I say he was an excellent lamper or the best dog on the fen !? Like I said he's not been advertised at studd he's only gone to top bitches , due to his reputation and breeding , owned by men who are in the know . He hasn't had a load of straws taken followed by a big advert in the c m w ! Get down the fen and experience first hand what your talking about

Ok stubble, accept my apologize. I take it your talking about Lucas? I've no connection with either so its no difference to me. By all accounts bulldozer is a top animal. Any dog who catches 2, 3 hares in January is a top animal. It's the hype talk of 5,6's that's boring then when it matters, its really only 2's that's the point. Yea I might just get down the fens, will you put me up for the night?