baw 4,360 Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Must be good its getting crabbed! Lucas is getting a wee bit older now maybe he will get a bit slack and bully get crabbed to death now!!only if you feel you have to show the dog off mate . there are dogs out there that are kept quiet and only close freinds get to see . them dogs never get slated . Can't win really, get a good dog and every fu##er turns on you. they're true dogmen Benny, guys like yourself Just to add...... Your that secretive Benny, you even hide your answer in the guys f***ing post Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Still a young dog though, flesh & bone not a machine. It would be interesting to see the dog spew, then we'd possibly see some of the coursing lads true colours. Whats spew (jack)?????If it is why would anyone want for another mans dog to do that????? I wouldn't want to see anyone's dog jack but its an interesting point. Carp mentioned 30, 40 year lines. I'm sure if these dogs were getting tested to the max over these years, some had to have jacked at some point, only common sense. Now, if they did jack and no one seen it, were they still used to breed from? How many here can honestly say, if the had a dog getting £1000 stud fees, one booked in the next day and their dog jacked the day before, would phone up and tell the guy not to bother, dogs no good? This is where money fucks up everything. If pups are no good are they culled or simply sold on? In an honest world you could say a 40 year line of breeding the best to the best will have produced the best. But the dog world ain't honest. I'm sure when the kennel club started it was for good reasons. Same with guys line breeding. The problem starts when the money comes into it...... Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Still a young dog though, flesh & bone not a machine. It would be interesting to see the dog spew, then we'd possibly see some of the coursing lads true colours. Whats spew (jack)?????If it is why would anyone want for another mans dog to do that????? I wouldn't want to see anyone's dog jack but its an interesting point. Carp mentioned 30, 40 year lines. I'm sure if these dogs were getting tested to the max over these years, some had to have jacked at some point, only common sense. Now, if they did jack and no one seen it, were they still used to breed from? How many here can honestly say, if the had a dog getting £1000 stud fees, one booked in the next day and their dog jacked the day before, would phone up and tell the guy not to bother, dogs no good? This is where money fucks up everything. If pups are no good are they culled or simply sold on? In an honest world you could say a 40 year line of breeding the best to the best will have produced the best. But the dog world ain't honest. I'm sure when the kennel club started it was for good reasons. Same with guys line breeding. The problem starts when the money comes into it...... Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 See Baw hasn't posted for a while on (t)his thread? Cheers, D. Just be sitting back drinking tea and eating Jaffa cakes D in between gasping for breath from laughing loland walking his new saluki cross I let it off the lead and it f****d off I had things to do can't be on here all the time lol Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Still a young dog though, flesh & bone not a machine. It would be interesting to see the dog spew, then we'd possibly see some of the coursing lads true colours. Whats spew (jack)?????If it is why would anyone want for another mans dog to do that?????I wouldn't want to see anyone's dog jack but its an interesting point. Carp mentioned 30, 40 year lines. I'm sure if these dogs were getting tested to the max over these years, some had to have jacked at some point, only common sense. Now, if they did jack and no one seen it, were they still used to breed from? How many here can honestly say, if the had a dog getting £1000 stud fees, one booked in the next day and their dog jacked the day before, would phone up and tell the guy not to bother, dogs no good? This is where money fucks up everything. If pups are no good are they culled or simply sold on? In an honest world you could say a 40 year line of breeding the best to the best will have produced the best. But the dog world ain't honest. I'm sure when the kennel club started it was for good reasons. Same with guys line breeding. The problem starts when the money comes into it...... wouldn't it be good if someone could dub that onto one of bulldozers courses on YouTube hint hint :tongue: I'm gonna start merchandise for the coursing lads..... Bulldozer bomber JACKets, skip hats, mugs, posters, pens..... Go down a bomb Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Still a young dog though, flesh & bone not a machine. It would be interesting to see the dog spew, then we'd possibly see some of the coursing lads true colours. Whats spew (jack)?????If it is why would anyone want for another mans dog to do that?????I wouldn't want to see anyone's dog jack but its an interesting point. Carp mentioned 30, 40 year lines. I'm sure if these dogs were getting tested to the max over these years, some had to have jacked at some point, only common sense. Now, if they did jack and no one seen it, were they still used to breed from? How many here can honestly say, if the had a dog getting £1000 stud fees, one booked in the next day and their dog jacked the day before, would phone up and tell the guy not to bother, dogs no good? This is where money fucks up everything. If pups are no good are they culled or simply sold on? In an honest world you could say a 40 year line of breeding the best to the best will have produced the best. But the dog world ain't honest. I'm sure when the kennel club started it was for good reasons. Same with guys line breeding. The problem starts when the money comes into it...... wouldn't it be good if someone could dub that onto one of bulldozers courses on YouTube hint hint :tongue: I'm gonna start merchandise for the coursing lads..... Bulldozer bomber JACKets, skip hats, mugs, posters, pens..... Go down a bomb crabbing cups, alternative account t shirts and calculators that don`t add up properly Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Still a young dog though, flesh & bone not a machine. It would be interesting to see the dog spew, then we'd possibly see some of the coursing lads true colours. Whats spew (jack)?????If it is why would anyone want for another mans dog to do that?????I wouldn't want to see anyone's dog jack but its an interesting point. Carp mentioned 30, 40 year lines. I'm sure if these dogs were getting tested to the max over these years, some had to have jacked at some point, only common sense. Now, if they did jack and no one seen it, were they still used to breed from? How many here can honestly say, if the had a dog getting £1000 stud fees, one booked in the next day and their dog jacked the day before, would phone up and tell the guy not to bother, dogs no good? This is where money fucks up everything. If pups are no good are they culled or simply sold on? In an honest world you could say a 40 year line of breeding the best to the best will have produced the best. But the dog world ain't honest. I'm sure when the kennel club started it was for good reasons. Same with guys line breeding. The problem starts when the money comes into it...... wouldn't it be good if someone could dub that onto one of bulldozers courses on YouTube hint hint :tongue: I'm gonna start merchandise for the coursing lads..... Bulldozer bomber JACKets, skip hats, mugs, posters, pens..... Go down a bomb crabbing cups, alternative account t shirts and calculators that don`t add up properly you forgot the stop watches that have 20 second minutes and yard sticks a foot and a half long Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 i will add them to the list Quote Link to post
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baw 4,360 Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Pmsl try again Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,240 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Baw seem's to me like you are having a wee dig at "Bulldozer" mate, make no mistake he is a "real" dog he's not just a "fen dog" he does his job wherever he's run, as people will see when the lad's put the d.v.d out, as far as "the money" side of the game goes then in part I agree but let me put it like this when your buying performance livestock whether it is Racing pigeon's, greyhound's, or racehorses your buying a bundle of "gene's" that is the top and bottom of it even the best "breed" rubbish BUT the chance's of getting something good with the performance that you are looking for is FAR greater if you buy from well bred top performance line's you won't get a "Derby" winner from two "pit pony's would you no matter how many times you bred them together ? but the chances of getting a top class animal from say "FRANKEL" are a million times more likely so at the end of the day for the price that the lad's charge for pup's from 30 or 40 year's of "selective" breeding line's are not "over the top" as far as the £1000 stud fee goes that is well worth the money when you consider the price's that are paid for well bred pup's and I'm sure that the only lad's who will pay that are "serious" about their sport and it also help's to keep the "dreamer's and messer's" away ! Good points well made Carp. The stud fee these guys charge doesn't bother me simply cos I'll never be paying it but it is part of the bigger picture that coursing has succumb to, I.e all about the money. It does look like I'm picking on bulldozer but its merely coincidental that he is currently in the highlight. None the less he is a perfect example of my original point. A dog we hear tirelessly catching 5/5 but on the big stage, struggles to get 2. Back in the good old days a 3/3 dog was a rare breed, now we hear of 5/5. Are these dogs better than the old 3 dogs? Or like the trend shown by Gillette shavers with there more blades, just a gimmick? The two are comparable because like Gillette, the modern coursing dog is just a brand. When you hear coursing dogs names like khan etc, I don't see the dog but the brand. That's sad in itself. Yes people want to keep lines going etc but that doesn't seem to be the case here. Unless the bitches are screened that we mere mortals don't know about, it seems to that as long as you've got a grand any old cur will get covered. As long as I can say the pups sire is bulldozer, I'm quids in. If that's what it's all about nowadays with the daylight walkers, fair do's, least have the balls to admit it Only baw could think to youse Gillette as an example ,,,lol,,,,, he forgot to mention how good both are at hair removal,,,lol feck I'm as bad as him. 1 Quote Link to post
baw 4,360 Posted February 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Baw seem's to me like you are having a wee dig at "Bulldozer" mate, make no mistake he is a "real" dog he's not just a "fen dog" he does his job wherever he's run, as people will see when the lad's put the d.v.d out, as far as "the money" side of the game goes then in part I agree but let me put it like this when your buying performance livestock whether it is Racing pigeon's, greyhound's, or racehorses your buying a bundle of "gene's" that is the top and bottom of it even the best "breed" rubbish BUT the chance's of getting something good with the performance that you are looking for is FAR greater if you buy from well bred top performance line's you won't get a "Derby" winner from two "pit pony's would you no matter how many times you bred them together ? but the chances of getting a top class animal from say "FRANKEL" are a million times more likely so at the end of the day for the price that the lad's charge for pup's from 30 or 40 year's of "selective" breeding line's are not "over the top" as far as the £1000 stud fee goes that is well worth the money when you consider the price's that are paid for well bred pup's and I'm sure that the only lad's who will pay that are "serious" about their sport and it also help's to keep the "dreamer's and messer's" away ! Good points well made Carp. The stud fee these guys charge doesn't bother me simply cos I'll never be paying it but it is part of the bigger picture that coursing has succumb to, I.e all about the money. It does look like I'm picking on bulldozer but its merely coincidental that he is currently in the highlight. None the less he is a perfect example of my original point. A dog we hear tirelessly catching 5/5 but on the big stage, struggles to get 2. Back in the good old days a 3/3 dog was a rare breed, now we hear of 5/5. Are these dogs better than the old 3 dogs? Or like the trend shown by Gillette shavers with there more blades, just a gimmick? The two are comparable because like Gillette, the modern coursing dog is just a brand. When you hear coursing dogs names like khan etc, I don't see the dog but the brand. That's sad in itself. Yes people want to keep lines going etc but that doesn't seem to be the case here. Unless the bitches are screened that we mere mortals don't know about, it seems to that as long as you've got a grand any old cur will get covered. As long as I can say the pups sire is bulldozer, I'm quids in. If that's what it's all about nowadays with the daylight walkers, fair do's, least have the balls to admit it Only baw could think to youse Gillette as an example ,,,lol,,,,, he forgot to mention how good both are at hair removal,,,lol feck I'm as bad as him. Lmfao well done tomo I prefer the 3 blade myself Quote Link to post
boyo 1,398 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 ive found i can learn a lot from daywalkers ie conditioning of dogs and correct food i know plenty of lampers who feed plain dry food some real rubbish some good every daywalker ive spoke to feed top knotch food , iam a lamper by the way but enjoy daytime , i wont knock anyones past time aslong as they are getting out there and keeping there dogs at it rather than sitting letting there dogs stare at the kennel walls whilst the owner is keyboard bashing It's not just daywalkers that know how to condition dogs and feed them the best, far from it, and alot of em could still learn alot from those that aint into matching their dogs shaaark 99% of daywalkers do not match their dogs and do not broadcast it on a internet forum what their doing with their dogs but what i will say is ive seen a lot of lamp dogs whos owners considered them very lamp fit come out for a days running on longears on big land with no hiding places .and their dogs havnt been able to get of their beds for days and gone of their food .and ive seen this more than the once or twice . it doesnt mean the owners cant condition a dog but imo a daytime dog needs to be a lot fitter than otherdogs to do their job properly. Quote Link to post
boyo 1,398 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 my thoughts are on jacking you could give the best dog in the world too the wrong person and he would make it jack .ie over run it or run it with a niggle or worse a injury seen it with my own eyes more than once.no matter how well the dog is bred give it to the wrong owner and he can f**k it up . 3 Quote Link to post
killing crew 2,708 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Still a young dog though, flesh & bone not a machine. It would be interesting to see the dog spew, then we'd possibly see some of the coursing lads true colours. Whats spew (jack)?????If it is why would anyone want for another mans dog to do that????? I wouldn't want to see anyone's dog jack but its an interesting point. Carp mentioned 30, 40 year lines. I'm sure if these dogs were getting tested to the max over these years, some had to have jacked at some point, only common sense. Now, if they did jack and no one seen it, were they still used to breed from? How many here can honestly say, if the had a dog getting £1000 stud fees, one booked in the next day and their dog jacked the day before, would phone up and tell the guy not to bother, dogs no good? This is where money fucks up everything. If pups are no good are they culled or simply sold on? In an honest world you could say a 40 year line of breeding the best to the best will have produced the best. But the dog world ain't honest. I'm sure when the kennel club started it was for good reasons. Same with guys line breeding. The problem starts when the money comes into it...... id find it a good pet home Quote Link to post
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