Day Walkers

[morton 5,368]

 

 

Lot of truth in that post Morton..just because "so and so" who's known to many don't mean his dog is above all and everyone elses and warrants mega bucks for a stud of his mutt..but there are a lot of sheep around and you know what they are like for just following one another lol...

I owned a bitch,bred from a lad in St.Helens,84-85,paid £40,at 13 month old it pissed all over a so called top dog that cost £1100,the fella offered me £100 for the bitch,possibly thinking a young fella would be enamoured by his name and brass,i laughed and went my way,a fortnight later the dog was taken from my kennels,i oft wonder how much of todays modern breeding comes from her.Top dogs are often bred from unknown lines and disguised as other breedings.

thats the exact reason i dont post pictures or posts about dog.my dog no world beater anyway,just like a good nights out,regardless of numbers bagged.

 

 

 

 

Lot of truth in that post Morton..just because "so and so" who's known to many don't mean his dog is above all and everyone elses and warrants mega bucks for a stud of his mutt..but there are a lot of sheep around and you know what they are like for just following one another lol...

I owned a bitch,bred from a lad in St.Helens,84-85,paid £40,at 13 month old it pissed all over a so called top dog that cost £1100,the fella offered me £100 for the bitch,possibly thinking a young fella would be enamoured by his name and brass,i laughed and went my way,a fortnight later the dog was taken from my kennels,i oft wonder how much of todays modern breeding comes from her.Top dogs are often bred from unknown lines and disguised as other breedings.

thats the exact reason i dont post pictures or posts about dog.my dog no world beater anyway,just like a good nights out,regardless of numbers bagged.

Pics are for nuggets,i live to close to Bradford,what they don,t knows in the kennel they can,t borrow on a permanent basis,even with a big rough arsed Akita waiting for the next infringement of ownership.

[FUJI 17,288]

That's it QB as long as the dog pleases you no matter how many bagged then surely that's all that matters? My dogs are nothing special but serve a purpose to ME and I care not what others think of them..there really is more to life then arguing and bickering about who and what is the best owner and dog (not much more mind you) ... You can only go to work with the tools you have..yes you can buy tools from a more reputable source but if you don't know how to use them then you won't be one shite better off..in laymans terms the man behind the dog plays a big part infact a very big part.

[killing crew 2,708]

bet you get your dogs from gordan at silsden dont you morton

[morton 5,368]

bet you get your dogs from gordan at silsden dont you morton

Why?,i know Gordan and also know if you sift through the dross in his mucky yard a few diamonds are to be found,some not with stolen ancestory and overated lineage,some not even from Nelson,Colne and Bradford,some that have not been thieved and sold on?No ive never had a jukel off Gordan,tempted once with a litter of 11 month old Deerhound/Grey x Saluki,s,should have taken one but i did,nt fancy meeting the real owners wrath.

[killing crew 2,708]

 

bet you get your dogs from gordan at silsden dont you morton

Why?,i know Gordan and also know if you sift through the dross in his mucky yard a few diamonds are to be found,some not with stolen ancestory and overated lineage,some not even from Nelson,Colne and Bradford,some that have not been thieved and sold on?No ive never had a jukel off Gordan,tempted once with a litter of 11 month old Deerhound/Grey x Saluki,s,should have taken one but i did,nt fancy meeting the real owners wrath.

[CorkyJohn 808]

 

 

 

 

 

 

You know what I'm sick of reading on here, day walkers bragging about their dogs and when it comes to the crunch, don't live up to the hype. It's f***ing easy to bum up a dog on here, get couple of your mates to agree or better still, have a few accounts yourself to verify the claims.

Take the Lucas and bulldozer match. Both dogs before the match killing 5/5, a 4,5,6 minute course the norm. That's half an hour of flat out running. Some dogs to do that. Plenty to back up the claims 'with me own eyes'. Best 2 dogs on the net if not the isles if you believe the hype. Finally we all get a chance to hear what these mighty hare slayers can do on the most worshipped ground....... 2 f***ing hares each. And at that one is a kick up, bravo, give me a pup pleeeeease.

Then the self claimed winner of the draw(yes the kick up merchant) goes on to race in the coveted forley cup. This cup has be heralded as the ultimate test for all lurchers, your dogs some dog to win this...... Only the best have done it..... Result? 3/3? 4/4? 5/5? No, 2 f***ing hares and one was already f***ing run!!!!

Now I'm only using these 2 dogs as examples of the bullshit that gets spewed on here on a daily bases. Iceman had a puppy competition, I glanced at it occasionally. Think it ran from August to May. These dogs were the offspring of super dogs that folk could recite the ancestory away back to roman times. Most of what I read the dogs were catching f**k all. Pups from legendary dogs, f**k all???? So I ask you, why the f**k do these dogs get bummed up to f**k but when it's time to show your hand, the owners are left standing with their pants down!!! Is it because its all just hype to sell pups? Surely not...

I can sympathise with your annoyance Baw, but as for Lucas ,though I have not seen him run myself, a couple of respected. experienced dog men, whose opinions I trust have and they rate him a very good animal indeed.

On some land a lot of decent dogs can make a catch or two,and flatter only to deceive when they are on other ground where the quarry is either turbo-charged and straight lines them.or there is an abundance of hedges and drains for them to throw off the dog and pipe into.

The fact that his owner has been willing to run him in public out of his comfort zone of home ground ,speaks for itself. he has run and caught his game on all sorts of ground . i think it is a given he is the real deal. The other dog is still young and may improve further so I'd say its too soon to give a definitive opinion of him because he may get even better.

Good points mate. I wasn't really aiming it at Lucas as much as I was bulldozer but had to include him cos that was the match. Gorger has stood up to the plate, stood toe to toe with 'the best fen dog' on the fens. I've a lot of respect for that and gorger knows that. Yes bulldozer is a young dog but wouldn't you agree, if he's young and relatively unproven, all the more reason he shouldn't be at stud? £1000 at that, blimey, says what the coursing lads are all about now don't you think?

The owner of Bulldozer is entitled to charge what he likes for a lining.

As to whether it is worth it ? I couldnt possibly comment .

I think u can look at bully 2ways young and un proven in some people's eyes young and proven in other people's eyes. When u have had the benefit of seeing the dog in question back up the story's of 4s and 5s on best land and best quarry with your own eyes its difficult not to pipe up and argue the point but after all its an open forum and people all have opinions. People all know this year the forley wasn't great people pulling out or injured dogs but jb and bully can only run whoever turns up and he beat anybody who did but people also forget at 17months this dog competed in his first season on the fen against mature seasoned dogs and in 5 matches in the forley didn't miss a hare now no other dog in the comp did that not even fly the winner. It's a matter of opinion wether that makes him a proven dog or not and for the men who have paid the 1000 stud fee well it's obvious which way there opinion went. Then there's the fact of well respected coursing men who's opinions mean something that have all seen this dog run the likes of m baker j Davis jim lofty d reed m Loverage the list goes they also seen this dog back up the storys this is y bully has a busy summer off lol in my opinion he is proven and his generations of breeding from both sure and dam are also proven so for that reason alone I think he is well worth the 1000 stud.

£1000 a pop for a 17 month old dog.....for arguments sake, what if this dog pulled up next time out? How would you lads who have paid silly money for a pup/lining from a jacker feel & what would be your course of action?

[killing crew 2,708]

[loftyslads 205]

 

 

 

 

 

You know what I'm sick of reading on here, day walkers bragging about their dogs and when it comes to the crunch, don't live up to the hype. It's f***ing easy to bum up a dog on here, get couple of your mates to agree or better still, have a few accounts yourself to verify the claims.Take the Lucas and bulldozer match. Both dogs before the match killing 5/5, a 4,5,6 minute course the norm. That's half an hour of flat out running. Some dogs to do that. Plenty to back up the claims 'with me own eyes'. Best 2 dogs on the net if not the isles if you believe the hype. Finally we all get a chance to hear what these mighty hare slayers can do on the most worshipped ground....... 2 f***ing hares each. And at that one is a kick up, bravo, give me a pup pleeeeease.Then the self claimed winner of the draw(yes the kick up merchant) goes on to race in the coveted forley cup. This cup has be heralded as the ultimate test for all lurchers, your dogs some dog to win this...... Only the best have done it..... Result? 3/3? 4/4? 5/5? No, 2 f***ing hares and one was already f***ing run!!!!Now I'm only using these 2 dogs as examples of the bullshit that gets spewed on here on a daily bases. Iceman had a puppy competition, I glanced at it occasionally. Think it ran from August to May. These dogs were the offspring of super dogs that folk could recite the ancestory away back to roman times. Most of what I read the dogs were catching f**k all. Pups from legendary dogs, f**k all???? So I ask you, why the f**k do these dogs get bummed up to f**k but when it's time to show your hand, the owners are left standing with their pants down!!! Is it because its all just hype to sell pups? Surely not...

I can sympathise with your annoyance Baw, but as for Lucas ,though I have not seen him run myself, a couple of respected. experienced dog men, whose opinions I trust have and they rate him a very good animal indeed.On some land a lot of decent dogs can make a catch or two,and flatter only to deceive when they are on other ground where the quarry is either turbo-charged and straight lines them.or there is an abundance of hedges and drains for them to throw off the dog and pipe into.The fact that his owner has been willing to run him in public out of his comfort zone of home ground ,speaks for itself. he has run and caught his game on all sorts of ground . i think it is a given he is the real deal. The other dog is still young and may improve further so I'd say its too soon to give a definitive opinion of him because he may get even better.

Good points mate. I wasn't really aiming it at Lucas as much as I was bulldozer but had to include him cos that was the match. Gorger has stood up to the plate, stood toe to toe with 'the best fen dog' on the fens. I've a lot of respect for that and gorger knows that. Yes bulldozer is a young dog but wouldn't you agree, if he's young and relatively unproven, all the more reason he shouldn't be at stud? £1000 at that, blimey, says what the coursing lads are all about now don't you think?

The owner of Bulldozer is entitled to charge what he likes for a lining.As to whether it is worth it ? I couldnt possibly comment .

I think u can look at bully 2ways young and un proven in some people's eyes young and proven in other people's eyes. When u have had the benefit of seeing the dog in question back up the story's of 4s and 5s on best land and best quarry with your own eyes its difficult not to pipe up and argue the point but after all its an open forum and people all have opinions. People all know this year the forley wasn't great people pulling out or injured dogs but jb and bully can only run whoever turns up and he beat anybody who did but people also forget at 17months this dog competed in his first season on the fen against mature seasoned dogs and in 5 matches in the forley didn't miss a hare now no other dog in the comp did that not even fly the winner. It's a matter of opinion wether that makes him a proven dog or not and for the men who have paid the 1000 stud fee well it's obvious which way there opinion went. Then there's the fact of well respected coursing men who's opinions mean something that have all seen this dog run the likes of m baker j Davis jim lofty d reed m Loverage the list goes they also seen this dog back up the storys this is y bully has a busy summer off lol in my opinion he is proven and his generations of breeding from both sure and dam are also proven so for that reason alone I think he is well worth the 1000 stud.

£1000 a pop for a 17 month old dog.....for arguments sake, what if this dog pulled up next time out? How would you lads who have paid silly money for a pup/lining from a jacker feel & what would be your course of action?

That was last year pal second season on the best bunnys plenty of 4-5 min runs later defo no sign of jacking lmao them lines ain't got jacking in them mate lmao

[CorkyJohn 808]

Still a young dog though, flesh & bone not a machine. It would be interesting to see the dog spew, then we'd possibly see some of the coursing lads true colours.

[Haggis81 147]

Must be good its getting crabbed!

 

Lucas is getting a wee bit older now maybe he will get a bit slack and bully get crabbed to death now!!

 

Can't win really, get a good dog and every fu##er turns on you.

[captain2010 2,806]

That's life going to happen to everyone,I bet owners secretly love it lol

[skycat 6,173]

Must be good its getting crabbed!

 

Lucas is getting a wee bit older now maybe he will get a bit slack and bully get crabbed to death now!!

 

Can't win really, get a good dog and every fu##er turns on you.

Look at the way top human athletes are put under the microscope these days. Every race analysed to the hilt, any slight drop in performance pounced upon by the media: it seems that human nature can't stand to admire someone or something whole heartedly, without jealousy or resentment. There is always someone who wants to pull a winner down, a revel in their short comings or failures.

 

This might seem contrary to what I said earlier (that's for a certain someone who often pulls me up on apparent contradictions in my thoughts and bless you for keeping me on the straight and narrow and forcing me to organise my memory banks ) but it doesn't really contradict anything. Exposing a dog, or anything, to the media, or in this case, the internet forum spotlight, is bound to have mainly negative results, with a little genuine joy thrown in just to keep things balanced.

 

If the dogs' owners genuinely love what their dogs do, then getting a bit drizzled on by what is said on a forum won't affect them one little bit, but if they are just in it for glory and money then hey, they shouldn't have got in the water in the first place.

[boyo 1,398]

skycat your right, and it seems a done thing in this country to knock anything or anyone that is doing well or on the up the aussies got a saying for it the whinning poms .

[hounddog3 744]

Must be good its getting crabbed!

 

Lucas is getting a wee bit older now maybe he will get a bit slack and bully get crabbed to death now!!

 

Can't win really, get a good dog and every fu##er turns on you.

it,s a fact of life even the so called top men have turned on the dog 3 week,s ago he was the king now he,s a tosser.iv,e only talked to the lad,s through pm,s and they come across as decent lad,s.

[iceman001979 1,316]

Still a young dog though, flesh & bone not a machine. It would be interesting to see the dog spew, then we'd possibly see some of the coursing lads true colours.

Whats spew (jack)?????If it is why would anyone want for another mans dog to do that?????