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You know what I'm sick of reading on here, day walkers bragging about their dogs and when it comes to the crunch, don't live up to the hype. It's f***ing easy to bum up a dog on here, get couple of your mates to agree or better still, have a few accounts yourself to verify the claims.

 

Take the Lucas and bulldozer match. Both dogs before the match killing 5/5, a 4,5,6 minute course the norm. That's half an hour of flat out running. Some dogs to do that. Plenty to back up the claims 'with me own eyes'. Best 2 dogs on the net if not the isles if you believe the hype. Finally we all get a chance to hear what these mighty hare slayers can do on the most worshipped ground....... 2 f***ing hares each. And at that one is a kick up, bravo, give me a pup pleeeeease.

 

Then the self claimed winner of the draw(yes the kick up merchant) goes on to race in the coveted forley cup. This cup has be heralded as the ultimate test for all lurchers, your dogs some dog to win this...... Only the best have done it..... Result? 3/3? 4/4? 5/5? No, 2 f***ing hares and one was already f***ing run!!!!

 

Now I'm only using these 2 dogs as examples of the bullshit that gets spewed on here on a daily bases. Iceman had a puppy competition, I glanced at it occasionally. Think it ran from August to May. These dogs were the offspring of super dogs that folk could recite the ancestory away back to roman times. Most of what I read the dogs were catching f**k all. Pups from legendary dogs, f**k all???? So I ask you, why the f**k do these dogs get bummed up to f**k but when it's time to show your hand, the owners are left standing with their pants down!!! Is it because its all just hype to sell pups? Surely not...

I can sympathise with your annoyance Baw, but as for Lucas ,though I have not seen him run myself, a couple of respected. experienced dog men, whose opinions I trust have and they rate him a very good animal indeed.

On some land a lot of decent dogs can make a catch or two,and flatter only to deceive when they are on other ground where the quarry is either turbo-charged and straight lines them.or there is an abundance of hedges and drains for them to throw off the dog and pipe into.

The fact that his owner has been willing to run him in public out of his comfort zone of home ground ,speaks for itself. he has run and caught his game on all sorts of ground . i think it is a given he is the real deal. The other dog is still young and may improve further so I'd say its too soon to give a definitive opinion of him because he may get even better.

Good points mate. I wasn't really aiming it at Lucas as much as I was bulldozer but had to include him cos that was the match. Gorger has stood up to the plate, stood toe to toe with 'the best fen dog' on the fens. I've a lot of respect for that and gorger knows that. Yes bulldozer is a young dog but wouldn't you agree, if he's young and relatively unproven, all the more reason he shouldn't be at stud? £1000 at that, blimey, says what the coursing lads are all about now don't you think?

baw bulldozer is a very good dog but to say best fen dog on the fens is a big big statement theres some real top dogs and bitches owned by people that dont come on here who would refute that claim. and bulldozers followers will know the dogs ime talking about .

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It's a sad fact that too many lurcher owners these days see their dogs as some sort of kudos thing. Whatever happened to the lurchers which went out quietly and worked with no fanfare,no shouting, no

You know what I'm sick of reading on here, day walkers bragging about their dogs and when it comes to the crunch, don't live up to the hype. It's f***ing easy to bum up a dog on here, get couple of yo

A good dog is exactly that don't matter a shite if it runs day,night,field or fen...sadly it's just part of the dog scene all this knocking of dogs and snidey remarks about their owners...to a degree

baw pal a good dog will talk for himself people lie thats human nature so to avoid all the hassel why not put a dog on a dvd and let people judge them rather than say my mate seen him kill 49 out 50 or they see him killing 5 for breakfast another 5 for lunch lol, louth tiger has a top class little dog he has proved himself for 4 seasons and is on at least 10 dvds and his owner never on here bumming him up and he is a lot less that 500 for service, so its makes you wonder about lads, jmho

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A good dog is exactly that don't matter a shite if it runs day,night,field or fen...sadly it's just part of the dog scene all this knocking of dogs and snidey remarks about their owners...to a degree I do think there is more "bickering" between and amongst the coursing boys probably because more often than not money is involved (the root of all evil) ...it does and has happened with the lamp boys too..I should know lol but not as often and relentless as it seems to be with the day dogs/owners...all this "it got straight lined" crap..feck my dogs have been straight lined hundreds of times probably thousands lol..does it make them shite?..I don't give a toss to be honest..and this about it being the same hare that had been piped...any conclusive proof that it was the same hare? ...No there wasn't? Again I've killed hundreds of hares that never put up a show does that mean that all of them had not long previous had a four minute race?...does it shite...top and bottom of it..each and every dog even the VERY best can and will miss and NOT every hare is capable of running for five minutes...simple as that..get over it lol..day walkers,lampers,moochers..united we stand or atleast we all should be!!

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A good dog is exactly that don't matter a shite if it runs day,night,field or fen...sadly it's just part of the dog scene all this knocking of dogs and snidey remarks about their owners...to a degree I do think there is more "bickering" between and amongst the coursing boys probably because more often than not money is involved (the root of all evil) ...it does and has happened with the lamp boys too..I should know lol but not as often and relentless as it seems to be with the day dogs/owners...all this "it got straight lined" crap..feck my dogs have been straight lined hundreds of times probably thousands lol..does it make them shite?..I don't give a toss to be honest..and this about it being the same hare that had been piped...any conclusive proof that it was the same hare? ...No there wasn't? Again I've killed hundreds of hares that never put up a show does that mean that all of them had not long previous had a four minute race?...does it shite...top and bottom of it..each and every dog even the VERY best can and will miss and NOT every hare is capable of running for five minutes...simple as that..get over it lol..day walkers,lampers,moochers..united we stand or atleast we all should be!!

wait until boots and fife get going. then you will be crabbing :laugh::laugh: :laugh: :thumbs:

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A good dog is exactly that don't matter a shite if it runs day,night,field or fen...sadly it's just part of the dog scene all this knocking of dogs and snidey remarks about their owners...to a degree I do think there is more "bickering" between and amongst the coursing boys probably because more often than not money is involved (the root of all evil) ...it does and has happened with the lamp boys too..I should know lol but not as often and relentless as it seems to be with the day dogs/owners...all this "it got straight lined" crap..feck my dogs have been straight lined hundreds of times probably thousands lol..does it make them shite?..I don't give a toss to be honest..and this about it being the same hare that had been piped...any conclusive proof that it was the same hare? ...No there wasn't? Again I've killed hundreds of hares that never put up a show does that mean that all of them had not long previous had a four minute race?...does it shite...top and bottom of it..each and every dog even the VERY best can and will miss and NOT every hare is capable of running for five minutes...simple as that..get over it lol..day walkers,lampers,moochers..united we stand or atleast we all should be!!

wait until boots and fife get going. then you will be crabbing :laugh::laugh: :laugh: :thumbs:

I can just crab myself KC ..no need to go and look for an argument..I've got cur x's,lamp x coursing bred and coursing types haha...and as I know you can't get enough of young Boots here he is :-) be 5 month old on the 1st March

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and I can't eave his brother Fife out lol...

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baw pal a good dog will talk for himself people lie thats human nature so to avoid all the hassel why not put a dog on a dvd and let people judge them rather than say my mate seen him kill 49 out 50 or they see him killing 5 for breakfast another 5 for lunch lol, louth tiger has a top class little dog he has proved himself for 4 seasons and is on at least 10 dvds and his owner never on here bumming him up and he is a lot less that 500 for service, so its makes you wonder about lads, jmho

are you the same guy that put up a post if your 11 month old bitch didnt do the biz by jan you were gona shoot her?

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Baw seem's to me like you are having a wee dig at "Bulldozer" mate, make no mistake he is a "real" dog he's not just a "fen dog" he does his job wherever he's run, as people will see when the lad's put the d.v.d out, as far as "the money" side of the game goes then in part I agree but let me put it like this when your buying performance livestock whether it is Racing pigeon's, greyhound's, or racehorses your buying a bundle of "gene's" that is the top and bottom of it :thumbs: even the best "breed" rubbish BUT the chance's of getting something good with the performance that you are looking for is FAR greater if you buy from well bred top performance line's you won't get a "Derby" winner from two "pit pony's would you no matter how many times you bred them together ? but the chances of getting a top class animal from say "FRANKEL" are a million times more likely :yes: so at the end of the day for the price that the lad's charge for pup's from 30 or 40 year's of "selective" breeding line's are not "over the top" as far as the £1000 stud fee goes that is well worth the money when you consider the price's that are paid for well bred pup's and I'm sure that the only lad's who will pay that are "serious" about their sport and it also help's to keep the "dreamer's and messer's" away ! :victory:

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Those really are very well made pups indeed :thumbs: But more to the point, they're getting the rearing they need to make the grade, rather than being stuck in a kennel 24/7 like some pups are.

Thanks Penny,I'm over the moon with the pair of them,first Saluki types I've ever owned,I was always led to believe they were thick,stupid dogs? These two are very obedient for their age,doing everything and more I could ask of dogs of their age...really enjoying educating them to the countryside and setting the foundations for what hopefully lies ahead? Thanks again :-)

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Those really are very well made pups indeed :thumbs: But more to the point, they're getting the rearing they need to make the grade, rather than being stuck in a kennel 24/7 like some pups are.

Thanks Penny,I'm over the moon with the pair of them,first Saluki types I've ever owned,I was always led to believe they were thick,stupid dogs? These two are very obedient for their age,doing everything and more I could ask of dogs of their age...really enjoying educating them to the countryside and setting the foundations for what hopefully lies ahead? Thanks again :-)

to be fair think your only man out more than me with pups than me I do 1 hour and half every day if not they start howling like a pack of wolfs. both pups belters pal credit to you. don't forget about big bad bow tho :laugh::laugh: :laugh: :thumbs:

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