baw 4,360 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 To be honest even them that do work still get handouts for having kids , so unless you have payed it back or refused the child benefit your also taking money , money that were all seemingly entitled to , pot kettle black springs to mind A lot less than they put in though Kay but I see your point.I hadnt worked fulltime hours for over 20 years , so i havent payed income tax in that time, i still got child tax credit & child benefit though, i didnt resfuse it But that's different. No one is saying the system shouldn't help people who are genuinely trying to help themselves. The system should make up the money in low income situations. It's the c**ts that are playing the system that's the problem.if this woman were to get a job , the state would have to pay for childcare the ones who are to young to be left , so she will still be getting help regardless of wether she works or not , it will probably cost more to put 4 kids in day care than she is claiming anyway Yea, folk like her can't afford to work. That's where the system fails. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tallyho 181 Posted February 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 i dont think the two older children work so they could look after the younger ones while the mum went out to work and pull her weight abit but she does not want to work , she never has and never will. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wxm 1,638 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 I think the cap should be put on foreigners having kids here cause at the rate them rats are breeding then it "WILL" end up being their country as they a breeding like fcuk ! I have a daughter (7) with my ex (I was with her 2 years, she lives with my ex) and 2 sons with my partner now (eldest being 5 in apr and my youngest just turning, we've been together 7 years), my partner has 2 (7 & 9) with her ex, so we have 5 together. (no one plans to have kids with someone and then split up these things happen) since leaving school in 2003 i have been out of work for about 18months (not in 1 length maybe 2 months here and 4 there) due to shity agency work and redundancy of a job where I was for 5 1/2 years. I did all my FLT training to better myself and get better jobs but due to the economical climate they dwindled away as there was not much building going on, and with nothing major to offer then its hard to better your employment status, so when I was out of work then the benefit system was a great help cause if it wasn't there then where was me and my family to live ect ??? I think those that go on about the benefit system and that it should be scrapped, should try living on the bread line so to speak and take their silver spoon out their arse. I do belive thou that it should be set at a limit for 6 - 12 months then reduced every 6 - 12 months after that 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 Well paulus, can I be brutally truthful? the only thing that's improved is the camera your taking photos from the back, no good to no c**t lol. Imagine at a wedding, right all turn round till I get a photo of yous from the back work on your composition, its not the camera any more, it's f***ing you learn the basics, start by the rule of thirds lol. im allergic to fooking horses hence the reason for staying well away. weddings :laugh: :laugh: ffs they would be getting divorced when they saw the photo`s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 I think the cap should be put on foreigners having kids here cause at the rate them rats are breeding then it "WILL" end up being their country as they a breeding like fcuk ! I have a daughter (7) with my ex (I was with her 2 years, she lives with my ex) and 2 sons with my partner now (eldest being 5 in apr and my youngest just turning, we've been together 7 years), my partner has 2 (7 & 9) with her ex, so we have 5 together. (no one plans to have kids with someone and then split up these things happen) since leaving school in 2003 i have been out of work for about 18months (not in 1 length maybe 2 months here and 4 there) due to shity agency work and redundancy of a job where I was for 5 1/2 years. I did all my FLT training to better myself and get better jobs but due to the economical climate they dwindled away as there was not much building going on, and with nothing major to offer then its hard to better your employment status, so when I was out of work then the benefit system was a great help cause if it wasn't there then where was me and my family to live ect ??? I think those that go on about the benefit system and that it should be scrapped, should try living on the bread line so to speak and take their silver spoon out their arse. I do belive thou that it should be set at a limit for 6 - 12 months then reduced every 6 - 12 months after that i know folk who do live on it mate,and i honestly dont know how the manage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wxm 1,638 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 I think the cap should be put on foreigners having kids here cause at the rate them rats are breeding then it "WILL" end up being their country as they a breeding like fcuk ! I have a daughter (7) with my ex (I was with her 2 years, she lives with my ex) and 2 sons with my partner now (eldest being 5 in apr and my youngest just turning, we've been together 7 years), my partner has 2 (7 & 9) with her ex, so we have 5 together. (no one plans to have kids with someone and then split up these things happen) since leaving school in 2003 i have been out of work for about 18months (not in 1 length maybe 2 months here and 4 there) due to shity agency work and redundancy of a job where I was for 5 1/2 years. I did all my FLT training to better myself and get better jobs but due to the economical climate they dwindled away as there was not much building going on, and with nothing major to offer then its hard to better your employment status, so when I was out of work then the benefit system was a great help cause if it wasn't there then where was me and my family to live ect ??? I think those that go on about the benefit system and that it should be scrapped, should try living on the bread line so to speak and take their silver spoon out their arse. I do belive thou that it should be set at a limit for 6 - 12 months then reduced every 6 - 12 months after that i know folk who do live on it mate,and i honestly dont know how the manage. tell you fella, its been hard in the past virtually having to turn everything off (gas / leccy) when the kids went to school as you cant afford the costs, its not as easy as everyone thinks in some case's but there is a lot that take the piss 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,173 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 she among the hundreds of thousands who do it .....................I don't believe that for a second, papers like the Sun and the Mail would be running daily articles if that was the case. As it stands you only hear about a handful of cases like here every year.. While I don't agree with what she's been allowed to do, there are far worse things happening in the world to get pissed off about.. her issue is that she is having it built .....alot of families move into council facilities with big families ......... woman down the road has 7 or 8 kids .........there waiting for a bigger property........i think the issue is more that she is having it built especially.......... did you not read what i put earlier, its being built at no cost to the tax payer, a housing association paid for the land off the local council and are funding the build 100% along with the other properties on the site But she's still milking the benefits system for all her child allowances, no council tax to pay: her kids don't look badly dressed, and there's others who are working who can't even afford decent food for the kids because they are not on the scrounge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 she among the hundreds of thousands who do it .....................I don't believe that for a second, papers like the Sun and the Mail would be running daily articles if that was the case. As it stands you only hear about a handful of cases like here every year.. While I don't agree with what she's been allowed to do, there are far worse things happening in the world to get pissed off about.. her issue is that she is having it built .....alot of families move into council facilities with big families ......... woman down the road has 7 or 8 kids .........there waiting for a bigger property........i think the issue is more that she is having it built especially.......... did you not read what i put earlier, its being built at no cost to the tax payer, a housing association paid for the land off the local council and are funding the build 100% along with the other properties on the site But she's still milking the benefits system for all her child allowances, no council tax to pay: her kids don't look badly dressed, and there's others who are working who can't even afford decent food for the kids because they are not on the scrounge. i bet a pound to a penny they get very simular amounts of benifits, both will get child benifit and child tax credits plus the working person will get help with childcare and if there income is low they to will also qualify for a council tax rebate. the only real difference between the 2 is one chooses to work and one not to work. "not on the scounge" if by scrounge you mean claiming benifits then most adults of working age with kids under 18 would be classed as scroungers as most if not all are claiming some benifits, the real problem is not benifits but the fact amount people earn does not reflect the true costs of living anymore and who benifits from that and who picks up the bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 I might be old fashioned mate but I never knew you had a choice either to work or not. I thought everyone able had to work. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 she among the hundreds of thousands who do it .....................I don't believe that for a second, papers like the Sun and the Mail would be running daily articles if that was the case. As it stands you only hear about a handful of cases like here every year.. While I don't agree with what she's been allowed to do, there are far worse things happening in the world to get pissed off about.. her issue is that she is having it built .....alot of families move into council facilities with big families ......... woman down the road has 7 or 8 kids .........there waiting for a bigger property........i think the issue is more that she is having it built especially.......... did you not read what i put earlier, its being built at no cost to the tax payer, a housing association paid for the land off the local council and are funding the build 100% along with the other properties on the site But she's still milking the benefits system for all her child allowances, no council tax to pay: her kids don't look badly dressed, and there's others who are working who can't even afford decent food for the kids because they are not on the scrounge. i bet a pound to a penny they get very simular amounts of benifits, both will get child benifit and child tax credits plus the working person will get help with childcare and if there income is low they to will also qualify for a council tax rebate. the only real difference between the 2 is one chooses to work and one not to work. "not on the scounge" if by scrounge you mean claiming benifits then most adults of working age with kids under 18 would be classed as scroungers as most if not all are claiming some benifits, the real problem is not benifits but the fact amount people earn does not reflect the true costs of living anymore and who benifits from that and who picks up the bill exactly when my youngest was at school me & my ex worked a combined 50 hrs a week & still got the best part of 300 a month in working tax child tax & child benefit , so i know for a fact folks with more than 1 qualifying child will be getting more Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wxm 1,638 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 she among the hundreds of thousands who do it .....................I don't believe that for a second, papers like the Sun and the Mail would be running daily articles if that was the case. As it stands you only hear about a handful of cases like here every year.. While I don't agree with what she's been allowed to do, there are far worse things happening in the world to get pissed off about.. her issue is that she is having it built .....alot of families move into council facilities with big families ......... woman down the road has 7 or 8 kids .........there waiting for a bigger property........i think the issue is more that she is having it built especially.......... did you not read what i put earlier, its being built at no cost to the tax payer, a housing association paid for the land off the local council and are funding the build 100% along with the other properties on the site But she's still milking the benefits system for all her child allowances, no council tax to pay: her kids don't look badly dressed, and there's others who are working who can't even afford decent food for the kids because they are not on the scrounge. i bet a pound to a penny they get very simular amounts of benifits, both will get child benifit and child tax credits plus the working person will get help with childcare and if there income is low they to will also qualify for a council tax rebate. the only real difference between the 2 is one chooses to work and one not to work. "not on the scounge" if by scrounge you mean claiming benifits then most adults of working age with kids under 18 would be classed as scroungers as most if not all are claiming some benifits, the real problem is not benifits but the fact amount people earn does not reflect the true costs of living anymore and who benifits from that and who picks up the bill FFS why cant you like mod's posts 1* that is the real problem here is the cost of living and people working for literally naff all and having nothing for their self's just paying back into the system. in work to many people are under cutting each other and working for next to nothing just to put a crust on their plate, bit like the topic on here posted by gaz I think and offering work for £40 ? aday and loads turned up their nose, theres been times id have happily helped for half that just to make sure there was heating or food in the house. to many people think their better than someone else your nothing more nothing less we all run the same course some better off then others but it can all be taken away in a split second. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MAIN MAN 277 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 her house is being built next door to me il try and get some pictures up lol, lazy fuker she is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 How many working families can get a mortgage for £210,000 The system broken when people out of work are better off than those in work. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 some are nik,most arent though.despite what the papers and goverments spout.this bint here is an exception.like i said i know a few lads on the dole and some have kids,and there living on the bread line. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,089 Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 she among the hundreds of thousands who do it .....................I don't believe that for a second, papers like the Sun and the Mail would be running daily articles if that was the case. As it stands you only hear about a handful of cases like here every year.. While I don't agree with what she's been allowed to do, there are far worse things happening in the world to get pissed off about.. her issue is that she is having it built .....alot of families move into council facilities with big families ......... woman down the road has 7 or 8 kids .........there waiting for a bigger property........i think the issue is more that she is having it built especially.......... did you not read what i put earlier, its being built at no cost to the tax payer, a housing association paid for the land off the local council and are funding the build 100% along with the other properties on the site But she's still milking the benefits system for all her child allowances, no council tax to pay: her kids don't look badly dressed, and there's others who are working who can't even afford decent food for the kids because they are not on the scrounge. i bet a pound to a penny they get very simular amounts of benifits, both will get child benifit and child tax credits plus the working person will get help with childcare and if there income is low they to will also qualify for a council tax rebate. the only real difference between the 2 is one chooses to work and one not to work. "not on the scounge" if by scrounge you mean claiming benifits then most adults of working age with kids under 18 would be classed as scroungers as most if not all are claiming some benifits, the real problem is not benifits but the fact amount people earn does not reflect the true costs of living anymore and who benifits from that and who picks up the bill FFS why cant you like mod's posts 1* that is the real problem here is the cost of living and people working for literally naff all and having nothing for their self's just paying back into the system. in work to many people are under cutting each other and working for next to nothing just to put a crust on their plate, bit like the topic on here posted by gaz I think and offering work for £40 ? aday and loads turned up their nose, theres been times id have happily helped for half that just to make sure there was heating or food in the house. to many people think their better than someone else your nothing more nothing less we all run the same course some better off then others but it can all be taken away in a split second. had a guy 41 years old never worked since left school and his wife as well 3 kids 2 aldults now claiming as well had a couple jobs needed a hand i will work 5 hours a day doing my own work this was a couple years ago gave him £40 for 5 hours his reply was he was working for that as a favour to me wouldnt get out his bed for that dropped him off and told him not to come back out sponging f--ker one of the houses i was in the woman said he stole her coffee lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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