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[johnny boy68 11,726]

lol now your making me feel bad johnny.you know what im getting at mate. this case just pissed me off. when i know people who are trully struggling to make ends meet.

I know where your coming from mate BUT its always the same with benefit threads, within a few posts all people who claim are scroungers. This woman who the thread is about is an extreme case and she really needs to look at herself tbh.

 

I've been out of work for 9 months now and I'm really finding it hard to get a job, so I can see the other side of the coin.

 

This child capping malarky makes me laugh though, this isn't communist China its "once" Great Britain.

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People ARE finding it hard to make ends meet, especially Those who wanted to make something of themselves and work to get what they want,

trouble is in the good times goverments spend money willy nilly without thinking,

 

And those on the dole who have no inclination of working are not bothered, then when times get tough, and businesses close,

whose hit the hardest, those in need who have worked, Somethings messed up with the system,

 

Any woman can get caught with pregnancy, its happens but 11 times.... thats just taking the piss,

Goverment would rather keep the low paid worker down than to help him out in a short time of need, i see it everyday,

 

Those who want to work cant get help, and those who dont wanna work get all the help they need plus all the mod cons......

 

I'd be nearly better off on the dole but sitting about would do my nut in, taking pride in trying to build my own home rather

than let the council put me up, but whose the silly one, i'm paying for the privilage of trying to build my own home, in development fees,

with no help whatsoever from council, only thing they send is bills... for stupid shit, that they did absolutely nothing for....

 

rant over...

[BIG G wheton machine 1,594]

its the likes of this lady that keeps thousands of government workers in jobs in the benefit system not to mention jeremy kyle so it might suit the government better to keep the poorest poor

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

well mate i certainly wouldnt keep giving her money for kids.id defo need to cap it.11 kids never had a job,and keeps churning them out.irresponsibe and bad parenting springs to mind.you mentioned years ago mate,my mum was just saying other week,when she first got married.the first kid you had you got no family allowance.imho id scrap that tomorrow. if you feel you cant finacially bring that kid up,then dont have any.maybe its easier for me as i dont have kids,but in a lot of ways im thankfull for that. think keeping a dog is a commitment and a tie,jesus having kids would just stress me out.i mean as adults we can skip things and get by,but you cant do that with a child,and the peer pressure these kids under these days just makes it more difficult.certain brand of trainers,phones pcs computer games.it must be a total nightmare for you parents.ill bet her f***ing 11 kids have all the latest gadgets and gizmos.f**k one of them has a horse lol

 

The girl has the horse because she works at the stables looking after horses mucking them out, feeding them, cleaning them etc. pretty responsible thing to do for a young girl who is nothing but a tramps brat wouldn't you say?

 

People keep saying they wouldn't have kids if there wasn't a welfare system to prop them up, but poor people in the past and around the world today still have kids born into poverty where there is no welfare system to help them out. Life for a lot of these people isn't always as clear as it is for most of those that have got a good grip of there lives and choose to "breed responsibly" if thats what you want to call it lol. Who knows what has prompted her to have so many kids? I don't think it's fair to just second guess and pass those thoughts off as truth without even knowing the woman.

 

You say bad parenting comes to mind, but she has raised 11 kids and if she was doing such a bad job of it wouldn't they all be in care?

 

Growing up on the shit ole council estate in Birmingham that I grew up in, there was plenty of people out of work and stuck on the dole, but some of these people were the first to help you out if you were down on your luck for what ever reason. They are/were some of the nicest people I've met during my life. Yet some of the snooty upper class money people my aunt used to work for would leave their young kids at home as they f****d off shopping, and had a list of special friends they'd routinely f**k behind their husbands backs. Who are the scumbags there?

 

You say you'd get rid of family allowance, but isn't that just punishing kids? It's funny you say about you were talking to your mom recently, as I was talking to my Granddad a couple of weeks back and he was saying about how he grew up in poverty, his mom (my great nan) was a barrow girl down the market selling fruit, they'd use the bags of fruit and veg to sleep on and the 10 kids would fight over who would sleep on the bags of onions as they were the most comfortable for a nights kip. My granddad after a lifetime of slogging his bollocks off from the age of 9 said how pleased he was that today young kids don't have to suffer the way he and his siblings had too because the welfare system is there to help.

 

 

 

 

im all for helping my fellow countrymanout and someone who is struggling,and i do help folk,granted they are mates,but i do help out when i can.but id soon stop if they werent helping therselfs if some one.churning out 11 kids imo isnt helping yourself at all.just adding to your problem,i say "your" problem,but in reality its the taxpayers who are bringing up her 11 kids.no she is defo not an ideal case for the welfare argument,in fact she is everything that is wrong with it.

 

What should we do with people like her then mate? Not give them a thing and send our society back into the Victorian times where kids were separated from parents thrown in workhouses or left destitute on the street begging for change?

The families were just as big if not bigger back then yet the levels of poverty were higher. What should we do? Leave them to suffer so more taxpayers money gets wasted on something else, or should we help these poor people? Or are any of you really that naive that if it wasn't for people like her you'd really be paying less taxes?

I certainly agree that the kids shouldn't suffer, but this is 2013, not Victorian times, and family planning is available. Yes, families back then were bigger, but for different reasons. Surely it is a parents responsibility to think about the pro's and con's of bringing yet another child into an already overcrowded household, when they are already on benefits and unable to provide for the ones they have ?

 

I would happily pay far more tax if I thought it was going to help actual people in actual need - but from what I can see, the majority of my money doesn't do that.

 

I think she is an unfortunate example of how wrong society has gone

Lara yes it is 2013 but that poor mentality is still with a lot of people today, they're all looking for something yet most of them don't know what it is and some see their lives as having no purpose at all unless its through a child or partner and are no more than children themselves when they end up having kids of heir own.

 

It's not like they just wake up and say, right today I'm going to become a right c**t and ponce every last penny off the state that I can, whilst having loads of kids because I know a load of daft b*****ds paying tax will keep us all afloat!

 

Life just isn't as simple as that.

[Outlaw Pete 2,224]

Trittbrettfahrer Macht Frei.

[scothunter 12,609]

Trittbrettfahrer Macht Frei.

[LaraCroft 863]

 

well mate i certainly wouldnt keep giving her money for kids.id defo need to cap it.11 kids never had a job,and keeps churning them out.irresponsibe and bad parenting springs to mind.you mentioned years ago mate,my mum was just saying other week,when she first got married.the first kid you had you got no family allowance.imho id scrap that tomorrow. if you feel you cant finacially bring that kid up,then dont have any.maybe its easier for me as i dont have kids,but in a lot of ways im thankfull for that. think keeping a dog is a commitment and a tie,jesus having kids would just stress me out.i mean as adults we can skip things and get by,but you cant do that with a child,and the peer pressure these kids under these days just makes it more difficult.certain brand of trainers,phones pcs computer games.it must be a total nightmare for you parents.ill bet her f***ing 11 kids have all the latest gadgets and gizmos.f**k one of them has a horse lol

 

The girl has the horse because she works at the stables looking after horses mucking them out, feeding them, cleaning them etc. pretty responsible thing to do for a young girl who is nothing but a tramps brat wouldn't you say?

 

People keep saying they wouldn't have kids if there wasn't a welfare system to prop them up, but poor people in the past and around the world today still have kids born into poverty where there is no welfare system to help them out. Life for a lot of these people isn't always as clear as it is for most of those that have got a good grip of there lives and choose to "breed responsibly" if thats what you want to call it lol. Who knows what has prompted her to have so many kids? I don't think it's fair to just second guess and pass those thoughts off as truth without even knowing the woman.

 

You say bad parenting comes to mind, but she has raised 11 kids and if she was doing such a bad job of it wouldn't they all be in care?

 

Growing up on the shit ole council estate in Birmingham that I grew up in, there was plenty of people out of work and stuck on the dole, but some of these people were the first to help you out if you were down on your luck for what ever reason. They are/were some of the nicest people I've met during my life. Yet some of the snooty upper class money people my aunt used to work for would leave their young kids at home as they f****d off shopping, and had a list of special friends they'd routinely f**k behind their husbands backs. Who are the scumbags there?

 

You say you'd get rid of family allowance, but isn't that just punishing kids? It's funny you say about you were talking to your mom recently, as I was talking to my Granddad a couple of weeks back and he was saying about how he grew up in poverty, his mom (my great nan) was a barrow girl down the market selling fruit, they'd use the bags of fruit and veg to sleep on and the 10 kids would fight over who would sleep on the bags of onions as they were the most comfortable for a nights kip. My granddad after a lifetime of slogging his bollocks off from the age of 9 said how pleased he was that today young kids don't have to suffer the way he and his siblings had too because the welfare system is there to help.

 

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im all for helping my fellow countrymanout and someone who is struggling,and i do help folk,granted they are mates,but i do help out when i can.but id soon stop if they werent helping therselfs if some one.churning out 11 kids imo isnt helping yourself at all.just adding to your problem,i say "your" problem,but in reality its the taxpayers who are bringing up her 11 kids.no she is defo not an ideal case for the welfare argument,in fact she is everything that is wrong with it.

What should we do with people like her then mate? Not give them a thing and send our society back into the Victorian times where kids were separated from parents thrown in workhouses or left destitute on the street begging for change?

The families were just as big if not bigger back then yet the levels of poverty were higher. What should we do? Leave them to suffer so more taxpayers money gets wasted on something else, or should we help these poor people? Or are any of you really that naive that if it wasn't for people like her you'd really be paying less taxes?

I certainly agree that the kids shouldn't suffer, but this is 2013, not Victorian times, and family planning is available. Yes, families back then were bigger, but for different reasons. Surely it is a parents responsibility to think about the pro's and con's of bringing yet another child into an already overcrowded household, when they are already on benefits and unable to provide for the ones they have ?

 

I would happily pay far more tax if I thought it was going to help actual people in actual need - but from what I can see, the majority of my money doesn't do that.

 

I think she is an unfortunate example of how wrong society has gone

Lara yes it is 2013 but that poor mentality is still with a lot of people today, they're all looking for something yet most of them don't know what it is and some see their lives as having no purpose at all unless its through a child or partner and are no more than children themselves when they end up having kids of heir own.

 

It's not like they just wake up and say, right today I'm going to become a right c**t and ponce every last penny off the state that I can, whilst having loads of kids because I know a load of daft b*****ds paying tax will keep us all afloat!

 

Life just isn't as simple as that.

 

You're right, it isn't. It's where society has failed - not only in allowing people to take advantage of a system, and allowing the "poor mentality" as you describe, to fall through gaps and get into such circumstances. But in trying to provide help/advice etc, how far do you go before you become a nanny state ?

[Blackbriar 8,569]

I was looking for the hunting forums, but I seem to wandered into the Nuremberg rallies !

Thank you Paulus, for being the voice of reason among the baying masses.

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

I just think its unfair to point he finger at the people at the bottom, when there is so much real waste going on in the country, and a lot more than what is supposedly being spent on today's scroungers.

[scothunter 12,609]

sorry for having an opinion lol

 

look im not against anyone on benefit,and i know its not easy,my gripe was with this cock holster with 11 kids

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

sorry for having an opinion lol

 

look im not against anyone on benefit,and i know its not easy,my gripe was with this cock holster with 11 kids

You're entitled to it mate its up to you what you think mate, I'm just voicing my opinion too.

[Qbgrey 4,091]

my worrys with the kids,yes the mums a ponce,they are going to be another drain on the tax payer,seeing thier mum like that.i could nt sit on the dole,id go insane,i wont my kids to bury me knowing i tred my best for them,not leaving them in debt and having to pay to bury the old c...t..

all the time i can work i will its about respecting those people who died for our country,i got pride,self respect .

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

my worrys with the kids,yes the mums a ponce,they are going to be another drain on the tax payer,seeing thier mum like that.i could nt sit on the dole,id go insane,i wont my kids to bury me knowing i tred my best for them,not leaving them in debt and having to pay to bury the old c...t..

all the time i can work i will its about respecting those people who died for our country,i got pride,self respect .

How do you know they're going to be a drain on the tax Payer?

 

Your lucky to have a job and be able to work mate.

[Lab 10,979]

 

my worrys with the kids,yes the mums a ponce,they are going to be another drain on the tax payer,seeing thier mum like that.i could nt sit on the dole,id go insane,i wont my kids to bury me knowing i tred my best for them,not leaving them in debt and having to pay to bury the old c...t..

all the time i can work i will its about respecting those people who died for our country,i got pride,self respect .

How do you know they're going to be a drain on the tax Payer?

 

Your lucky to have a job and be able to work mate.

Hows he lucky to have a job?. Maybe he's work hard for it mate. Problem now is thats the standard comment "Cant get a job"....well i'm sure there are some people who cant but theres alot more who dont want one. I think we are in a vicious circle here. The thread is about some bone idle woman pumping out 11 bairns, they 11 bairns will one day need a job. Some will get a job and some will follow her path in life. If the country wasn't full off foriegners then there would be plenty jobs and then we wouldnt have this pish about no jobs and folk would then have to go out and do a decent days graft and make them a better person for it. ...imo..

[BOLSTER 808]

Sure one white women is aloud to do it