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wippetboy i wasnt saying you are an alcholic. My father is and i was sharing my experience with the hospital and hes doctor ok. Anyway stay of the drink you piss head. Pmsl

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call it what you want..................what about kids who are dieing from diseases ............... they havent had a chance or a choice,....................not self inflicted like gazza...........

I think the minute you need to start comparing who is most needy of charity your best keeping your money in your pocket !....Giving to the needy is something you should WANT to do not be put on a guil

What should we do instead send money to starving africans ? having sex leading to children you cant cope with is not a diesease either but we are still continually harrassed and put on guilt trips to

  On 19/02/2013 at 12:31, PIL said:

 

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  On 19/02/2013 at 09:48, rob190364 said:

 

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I can only say about his football ability from what I saw in the flesh and all I saw was an over rated, over weight, footballer who had to use his arms and elbows to defend the ball. Yes he had a good football brain but the body couldn't keep up. I wish him well but no bigoted wife beater would see a brown penny of mine.

tremendous goal against Scotland though wasn't it :D:laugh::laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
2 useless c**ts that day Hendry and mccallister....................f***ing bellends!!
yeah....they didn't fit in with the rest of the world beaters did they :laugh:
I can't remember, what goal was this :laugh: aye it was alright for a fluke :D seriously, it was quality.
what makes the goal and the celebration after Evan more special is it stuck two fingers up to the press for saying he was "past it" because of him on the piss and eating kebabs till early hours.The press don't give a feck about anything apart from selling papers ,c**ts the lot of them .
Exactly mate... But they jump all over saving him....... ..... Oh yeah cause they'll sale more papers.....

Gazza isn't a charity..... It's bullshit and there asking people to dip there hands in their pocket whilst advertising the paper... Just donate to AA if your chosen charity is alcoholism..... Like gnasher said being mad to feel guilty about who to give your money to is wrong.... Headlines lik " Gazza would've been dead in 48hrs" or whatever is pulling at you.... He's an individual not a charity, as friends, former employees ( fa) get him sorted (if you can ).... But he is not a charity....

I wish him well, as I do anyone else struggling...

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  On 19/02/2013 at 12:31, PIL said:

 

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I can only say about his football ability from what I saw in the flesh and all I saw was an over rated, over weight, footballer who had to use his arms and elbows to defend the ball. Yes he had a good football brain but the body couldn't keep up. I wish him well but no bigoted wife beater would see a brown penny of mine.

tremendous goal against Scotland though wasn't it :D:laugh::laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
2 useless c**ts that day Hendry and mccallister....................f***ing bellends!!
yeah....they didn't fit in with the rest of the world beaters did they :laugh:
I can't remember, what goal was this :laugh: aye it was alright for a fluke :D seriously, it was quality.
what makes the goal and the celebration after Evan more special is it stuck two fingers up to the press for saying he was "past it" because of him on the piss and eating kebabs till early hours.The press don't give a feck about anything apart from selling papers ,c**ts the lot of them .

Maybe if he'd listened to the press we wouldn't have this discussion the day..... Just a thought.

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  On 19/02/2013 at 12:53, baw said:

 

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  On 19/02/2013 at 09:48, rob190364 said:

 

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  On 19/02/2013 at 07:02, baw said:

 

I can only say about his football ability from what I saw in the flesh and all I saw was an over rated, over weight, footballer who had to use his arms and elbows to defend the ball. Yes he had a good football brain but the body couldn't keep up. I wish him well but no bigoted wife beater would see a brown penny of mine.

tremendous goal against Scotland though wasn't it :D:laugh::laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
2 useless c**ts that day Hendry and mccallister....................f***ing bellends!!
yeah....they didn't fit in with the rest of the world beaters did they :laugh:
I can't remember, what goal was this :laugh: aye it was alright for a fluke :D seriously, it was quality.
what makes the goal and the celebration after Evan more special is it stuck two fingers up to the press for saying he was "past it" because of him on the piss and eating kebabs till early hours.The press don't give a feck about anything apart from selling papers ,c**ts the lot of them .

Maybe if he'd listened to the press we wouldn't have this discussion the day..... Just a thought.

Maybe yes? But then if he was just a sterile no personality goody two shoes he wouldn't be either!

 

You can't say "what ifs", the situation is that he now is a broke down pathetic wreck, when this man was a hero to us growing up! It matters to people because he made a difference and for all his wrong doings a lot of people still aren't ready to turn their back on a national hero at his lowest point in life.

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ive just read through this and it deserves saying there is a man giving his opinions on this topic that gives more to a children's charity annually than most of us earn i know ive seen it first hand if he wanted to give gazza or any other alki money it would be a drop in the ocean to what he gives to kids people should make whatever charity they want priority it's there money

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Gazza's doomed, like Besty was and many before him. Just because he's in the public eye doesn't make him any more special. He is, only to the people that love and truly care for him...His family! My sister was the same, love nor money could not help or save her. I used to shout at her about the trouble she was in with her drinking, her immediate family, her husband and children, were more controlled, they had seen much worse but kept it to themselves, to protect our ageing parents. The strength to recover comes from within, and you've got to grasp that love for living, have a purpose in life and keep pushing yourself. Our kid couldn't do that no matter what we said and tried to do for her, she was on a mission . There is help, but the person concerned must want to use it, not abuse it!

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  On 19/02/2013 at 18:08, nothernlite said:

makethumbphp_zpse4832ff3.jpgi hope he does well here he is in his better days

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Just as a thought what did you Scottish lads think when he chipped Hendry and scored, a fecking good goal or what a cnut or both ?? Lab and baw need not bother :laugh: :laugh:

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  On 19/02/2013 at 18:08, nothernlite said:

makethumbphp_zpse4832ff3.jpgi hope he does well here he is in his better days

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Just as a thought what did you Scottish lads think when he chipped Hendry and scored, a fecking good goal or what a cnut or both ?? Lab and baw need not bother :laugh: :laugh:

Think i said "What a fat English c**t!!!".................saying that i was still shouting at McCallsiter for being a "Useless f***ing c**t!"...... :yes:

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  On 19/02/2013 at 20:08, lab-tastic said:

 

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  On 19/02/2013 at 18:08, nothernlite said:

 

makethumbphp_zpse4832ff3.jpgi hope he does well here he is in his better days

 

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Just as a thought what did you Scottish lads think when he chipped Hendry and scored, a fecking good goal or what a cnut or both ?? Lab and baw need not bother :laugh: :laugh:

Think i said "What a fat English c**t!!!".................saying that i was still shouting at McCallsiter for being a "Useless f***ing c**t!"...... :yes:
Thought I told you not to bother :laugh::censored::laugh:
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  On 19/02/2013 at 20:36, PIL said:

 

  On 19/02/2013 at 20:08, lab-tastic said:

 

  On 19/02/2013 at 19:08, PIL said:

 

  On 19/02/2013 at 18:08, nothernlite said:

 

makethumbphp_zpse4832ff3.jpgi hope he does well here he is in his better days

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Just as a thought what did you Scottish lads think when he chipped Hendry and scored, a fecking good goal or what a cnut or both ?? Lab and baw need not bother :laugh: :laugh:

Think i said "What a fat English c**t!!!".................saying that i was still shouting at McCallsiter for being a "Useless f***ing c**t!"...... :yes:
Thought I told you not to bother :laugh::censored::laugh:

I thought about it then decided you were wrong.... :D

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  On 19/02/2013 at 20:36, lab-tastic said:

 

  On 19/02/2013 at 20:36, PIL said:

 

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  On 19/02/2013 at 18:08, nothernlite said:

 

makethumbphp_zpse4832ff3.jpgi hope he does well here he is in his better days

 

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Just as a thought what did you Scottish lads think when he chipped Hendry and scored, a fecking good goal or what a cnut or both ?? Lab and baw need not bother :laugh: :laugh:

Think i said "What a fat English c**t!!!".................saying that i was still shouting at McCallsiter for being a "Useless f***ing c**t!"...... :yes:
Thought I told you not to bother :laugh::censored::laugh:
I thought about it then decided you were wrong.... :D
:laugh: :laugh: cnut :laugh:
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  On 19/02/2013 at 09:57, Born Hunter said:

Gnasher, you've missed my point perhaps. I wasn't saying whats the most worthy, but what is worthy and what isn't in my opinion. Black and white, no shades of grey there. An addict with no intention of fighting their weakness isn't worthy in my opinion. I can't help but think of MANY genuine causes, like the example I gave. Nothing silly about that.

 

 

I don't idolise the man, so have no more sympathy for him than any other like him. People can throw their money where they want, I wouldn't call/judge anybody for it either.

Just out of interest mate....do you therefore consider the AA organisation as " unworthy " ?....its not a charity and its full of addicts many with no intention of fighting their weakness.................what is a genuine case when it comes to addictions,do you have to admit your an addict before you qualify as a genuine case ?......................Alcoholism as a disease just doesnt work like that.

 

I dont idolise the man either,in fact i dont idolise anybody....except maybe Bobby Moore :icon_redface: .....................you dont have to idolise a sports star to feel compassion towards them.

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  On 19/02/2013 at 22:26, gnasher16 said:

 

  On 19/02/2013 at 09:57, Born Hunter said:

Gnasher, you've missed my point perhaps. I wasn't saying whats the most worthy, but what is worthy and what isn't in my opinion. Black and white, no shades of grey there. An addict with no intention of fighting their weakness isn't worthy in my opinion. I can't help but think of MANY genuine causes, like the example I gave. Nothing silly about that.

 

 

I don't idolise the man, so have no more sympathy for him than any other like him. People can throw their money where they want, I wouldn't call/judge anybody for it either.

Just out of interest mate....do you therefore consider the AA organisation as " unworthy " ?....its not a charity and its full of addicts many with no intention of fighting their weakness.................what is a genuine case when it comes to addictions,do you have to admit your an addict before you qualify as a genuine case ?......................Alcoholism as a disease just doesnt work like that.

 

I dont idolise the man either,in fact i dont idolise anybody....except maybe Bobby Moore :icon_redface: .....................you dont have to idolise a sports star to feel compassion towards them.

 

Unworthy of my money, probably yes. If somebody has a problem and really does want to knock it on the head, I'll gladly help them where I can, but after several years and promises and lies and weak ass efforts I kinda start to think "well f**k you". Maybe that makes me a c**t, but that's the way I feel with these people. I just find it very hard to justify. That's me personally.

 

It's no didfferent to any other drug addiction (even heroin), and I guess it's no different to eating dissorders or annorexia. But where do we draw the line? What about criminals with psychological compulsions, should we be all understanding of them? f**k knows, there not really questions to anybody, just what goes through my head. As I've said, folks can do what they like with their money, that's none of my bussiness, but I wouldn't give a penny personally.

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