Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Gaz most half cross litters throw wastage. Just like some half x beddys are too small. It is 2013 tho. Why use a half anyways? Why not a line breed mutt. Or even just a lucher? Anybody thatt tells youu any 1 cross is besr is deluded Get off this site while you can. You are making way too much sense but if you stay on here long enough your head will be full of shit. Seriously LEAVE! hahahaha Nice post bro! 2 Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I have a Wheaton cross whippet here through a bit heavy but will face anything. have you any pics fella. dog or bitch. how old. Quote Link to post
bird 9,932 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Gaz most half cross litters throw wastage. Just like some half x beddys are too small. It is 2013 tho. Why use a half anyways? Why not a line breed mutt. Or even just a lucher? Anybody thatt tells youu any 1 cross is besr is deluded Get off this site while you can. You are making way too much sense but if you stay on here long enough your head will be full of shit. Seriously LEAVE! hahahaha Nice post bro! Dan the man anyway apart from a well bred 1x pitxgrey nothing will match them for the fox job, got to be the one of the best 1xs thats was out there pre ban Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Gaz most half cross litters throw wastage. Just like some half x beddys are too small. It is 2013 tho. Why use a half anyways? Why not a line breed mutt. Or even just a lucher? Anybody thatt tells youu any 1 cross is besr is deluded Get off this site while you can. You are making way too much sense but if you stay on here long enough your head will be full of shit. Seriously LEAVE! hahahaha Nice post bro! :bye: :bye: :bye: Edited February 21, 2013 by nothernlite Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Hey there northernlite. How ya doin fella? 1 Quote Link to post
jimbobsmutts 44 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 The first step of many to curing kennel blindness is to admit there's a problem Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Gaz most half cross litters throw wastage. Just like some half x beddys are too small. It is 2013 tho. Why use a half anyways? Why not a line breed mutt. Or even just a lucher? Anybody thatt tells youu any 1 cross is besr is deluded why not use first crosses. i find them to be of more use to me. as they are rarely in the sickbay. they have good stamina they are generally intelligent and tend to wear better than dogs that are saturated with greyhound ect. not knocking coursing dogs or longdogs . but they would be useless to me as i would break them to often. the ground i'm on is rough to say the least. and whenever ive tried the faster style lurcher. it hasnt lasted long. not becouse they are shite but becouse they arnt suited to how i work my dogs. when i get a lurcher i look for the litter wastage and generally it suits me and lasts longer. first crosses all the way for me fella's whatever the breeds mostly my quarry is rabbits so i'm not talking about toughness. i'm talking about durability. this was one of my faster lurchers. deerhound/greyhound...collie/greyhound...beddy/greyhound...saluki/greyhound. fast as fook. top notch rabbit catcher. but laid up to often. its horses for courses. just becouse you cant see the benefits of a slower lurcher dont mean there aint any. far to many folk think becouse its a bull cross/wheaten cross. its a one trick pony and pigeon hole all these into the big ard fox dog bracket. this isnt allways the case. 3 Quote Link to post
troter58 1,711 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 No bites here marra, there is good types in all crosses. An I ain't as kennel blind as to say anything diffrent. I never mentioned you or your dogs. So its you that's biteing. Smiles or not. I'll bet ye there are bullxs and wheatenxs that'll go run for run allnite with your bedlingtonxs, you wanna see either run you can fetch your beddy no bites but you can go run for run with me no your deffo not biteing are you Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Gaz most half cross litters throw wastage. Just like some half x beddys are too small. It is 2013 tho. Why use a half anyways? Why not a line breed mutt. Or even just a lucher? Anybody thatt tells youu any 1 cross is besr is deluded why not use first crosses. i find them to be of more use to me. as they are rarely in the sickbay. they have good stamina they are generally intelligent and tend to wear better than dogs that are saturated with greyhound ect. not knocking coursing dogs or longdogs . but they would be useless to me as i would break them to often. the ground i'm on is rough to say the least. and whenever ive tried the faster style lurcher. it hasnt lasted long. not becouse they are shite but becouse they arnt suited to how i work my dogs. when i get a lurcher i look for the litter wastage and generally it suits me and lasts longer. first crosses all the way for me fella's whatever the breeds mostly my quarry is rabbits so i'm not talking about toughness. i'm talking about durability. 4539608156a5235991019l.jpg 4539608156a5999195692l.jpg this was one of my faster lurchers. deerhound/greyhound...collie/greyhound...beddy/greyhound...saluki/greyhound. fast as fook. top notch rabbit catcher. but laid up to often. its horses for courses. just becouse you cant see the benefits of a slower lurcher dont mean there aint any. far to many folk think becouse its a bull cross/wheaten cross. its a one trick pony and pigeon hole all these into the big ard fox dog bracket. this isnt allways the case. very well put first crosses can be very good and as you say its not always about speed who want to own a dog thats lining the vets pockets not me Quote Link to post
jimbobsmutts 44 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 But if your claiming wheatenxs are too heavy to be versatile, I think it was the lad said, then a halfx is not what yiu want. Don't you agree? I love halfs of all types aswell, without them we woukd have nowt. An if folks think halfs are useles then there lurcher must have come from a crap half somwhere down the line. But they don't suit all and do have wastage in every litter if you have bred for one type. Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,832 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Gaz most half cross litters throw wastage. Just like some half x beddys are too small. It is 2013 tho. Why use a half anyways? Why not a line breed mutt. Or even just a lucher? Anybody thatt tells youu any 1 cross is besr is deluded Get off this site while you can. You are making way too much sense but if you stay on here long enough your head will be full of shit. Seriously LEAVE! hahahaha Nice post bro! Dan the man anyway apart from a well bred 1x pitxgrey nothing will match them for the fox job, got to be the one of the best 1xs thats was out there pre ban Got to disagree there bird, the best dog I ever seen taking fox very regularly was a 1st x deer/grey, BY MILES! Made it look ridiculously easy. Quote Link to post
jimbobsmutts 44 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 As far as I see it. Its the lads with beddy in kennel an beds that's saying wheaten an bullxs are 1 trick ponys an then there's northernlite agreeing with you. This place is mixed up to say the least Quote Link to post
lapin2008 1,587 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Gaz most half cross litters throw wastage. Just like some half x beddys are too small. It is 2013 tho. Why use a half anyways? Why not a line breed mutt. Or even just a lucher? Anybody thatt tells youu any 1 cross is besr is deluded Get off this site while you can. You are making way too much sense but if you stay on here long enough your head will be full of shit. Seriously LEAVE! hahahaha Nice post bro! Dan the man anyway apart from a well bred 1x pitxgrey nothing will match them for the fox job, got to be the one of the best 1xs thats was out there pre ban Got to disagree there bird, the best dog I ever seen taking fox very regularly was a 1st x deer/grey, BY MILES! Made it look ridiculously easy. Its not a breed specific thing though and not a black and white as people make out with all these which breed is best threads. Some bedX are going to be harder/heavier/slower than some WheX and vica versa, Some bullx are gonna be absolute fannies! and every shade of grey in between. If people focused more on the abilities of the parents and not on the specific breed IMO there would be better lurchers around. And in terms of using half x so that they dont get too fast. Why would you use greyhound saturated lurchers in the first place, just use something with a complimentary build/abilities/temprament to the one your breeding. If your only using first x dogs then surely each time a f1 litter is born you get the same wastage etc. Your also not able to attempt to try and improve on the previous generation as your starting from square one again 4 Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 i like the first cross. and find it generally suites my needs. i dont breed lurchers i just use them. and when one gets to old i will get another in if i have the use for another . someone has to take up the litter waste good thread chaps 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,089 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 As far as I see it. Its the lads with beddy in kennel an beds that's saying wheaten an bullxs are 1 trick ponys an then there's northernlite agreeing with you. This place is mixed up to say the least Im agreeing with what cleanspade said about first crosses as you said why use half crosses well there was your answer and i dont remember saying wheaton and bullxs were 1 trick ponys think your the one getting mixed up do you not need your half cross to start with Quote Link to post
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