turbodan22 1 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 hi im new to this forum although im on it more or less everyday and learnt some great tips so just thought id introduce myself my names dan ive been into shooting for bout ten years if not more and into everything outdoors orientated. my rifles/ guns are 17hmr cz brno .22 cz brno bsa ultra 177 escort magnum 12 gauge ive got two main questions my first is do 17hmr ricochet asmuch as 22s etc and if a 17 hit the ground after bein took of a bipod more or less flat ground what are the chances of a ricochet ive also had a new idea to do abit of pest control for rabbits foxes pigeons etc either setting trapps or shooting / ferreting etc is there anything i need to no about it?? Quote Link to post
iana 25 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I would of thought with a section 1 granted for your 17 and 22 your FAO would be satisfied that you could answer the ricochet question yourself? Also you mention pest control, what did they grant the use of these rifles for? Again you must of had adequate experience to be able to be in possession of these? Quote Link to post
halamrose 24 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 HMR does ricochet much less than 22LR but you cant count on it not to. Your question about pest control is too vague really but the answer is yes. Quote Link to post
sussex 5,777 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Hi Dan If you assume that EVERY round you fire will ricochet then shoot with the right backstop you wont have a problem !! Safety is paramount . Quote Link to post
turbodan22 1 Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 yes thats the way i look at it that everyround ricochets i understand that but everyone goes onabout how a 17hmr doesnt ricochet so was just asking if anyone had any bad exsperiances with a 17hmr thats all. and woundered if i needed any certain licenses for pest control ive got my open ticket with the lawfull shooting of deer the shooting of vermin or in the course of carrying on acctiviteas in connection with the management of any estate, other ildlife the humane killing of animals the shooting of animals for the protection of other animals or humans. Quote Link to post
ryhope toma 42 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I would of thought with a section 1 granted for your 17 and 22 your FAO would be satisfied that you could answer the ricochet question yourself? Also you mention pest control, what did they grant the use of these rifles for? Again you must of had adequate experience to be able to be in possession of these? well said ! Quote Link to post
halamrose 24 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 The shooting of rabbits etc is usually termed vermin control. Running a business to kill 'orible creepy crawlies up to deer is usually called pest control. You can use the guns to kill whatever is says on your licence - mine for example says any lawful quarry. If you want to set up a business then you need appropriate knowledge or advice. Quote Link to post
turbodan22 1 Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) i have all the exsperiance needed as ive been brought u on farms doing everything from trapping foxes to smokin rats to ferrating to flying birds of pray. for pest control. The shooting of rabbits etc is usually termed vermin control. Running a business to kill 'orible creepy crawlies up to deer is usually called pest control. You can use the guns to kill whatever is says on your licence - mine for example says any lawful quarry. If you want to set up a business then you need appropriate knowledge or advice. you say you can use your rifles to kill anything on your license but i no a 17hmr and 22lr are not suitable to humanely kill deer and it is also against the law so that carnt be correct. it says i can humainly dispatch animals wich would obviously be a fox in a live trap. ive been paid for this sort of work on a chicken farm before but per fox. and as this fox has attacked a baby in a home although i personly think itl be a dog that there trying to protect from being put down.it got me thinking about pest control what i wanted to no was other than my firearms, insurance and equipment do i need any other permits (im not going to be using poisen) i run my own buisness as it is it was just something that i was thinking about as i no there a fair bit of money iniit for foxes, ferals in warehouses and rabbits on golfcourses etc. thanks dan Edited February 13, 2013 by turbodan22 Quote Link to post
The Duncan 802 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Anyone else thinking messer/anti? 1 Quote Link to post
iana 25 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I think fella you need to take another chance on a lucky dip and see what license you come up with!!! Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 what a load of shite Quote Link to post
waidmann 105 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 i have all the exsperiance needed as ive been brought u on farms doing everything from trapping foxes to smokin rats to ferrating to flying birds of pray. for pest control. The shooting of rabbits etc is usually termed vermin control. Running a business to kill 'orible creepy crawlies up to deer is usually called pest control. You can use the guns to kill whatever is says on your licence - mine for example says any lawful quarry. If you want to set up a business then you need appropriate knowledge or advice. you say you can use your rifles to kill anything on your license but i no a 17hmr and 22lr are not suitable to humanely kill deer and it is also against the law so that carnt be correct. it says i can humainly dispatch animals wich would obviously be a fox in a live trap. ive been paid for this sort of work on a chicken farm before but per fox. and as this fox has attacked a baby in a home although i personly think itl be a dog that there trying to protect from being put down.it got me thinking about pest control what i wanted to no was other than my firearms, insurance and equipment do i need any other permits (im not going to be using poisen) i run my own buisness as it is it was just something that i was thinking about as i no there a fair bit of money iniit for foxes, ferals in warehouses and rabbits on golfcourses A spell checker might help! Quote Link to post
turbodan22 1 Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 i have all the exsperiance needed as ive been brought u on farms doing everything from trapping foxes to smokin rats to ferrating to flying birds of pray. for pest control. The shooting of rabbits etc is usually termed vermin control. Running a business to kill 'orible creepy crawlies up to deer is usually called pest control. You can use the guns to kill whatever is says on your licence - mine for example says any lawful quarry. If you want to set up a business then you need appropriate knowledge or advice. you say you can use your rifles to kill anything on your license but i no a 17hmr and 22lr are not suitable to humanely kill deer and it is also against the law so that carnt be correct. it says i can humainly dispatch animals wich would obviously be a fox in a live trap. ive been paid for this sort of work on a chicken farm before but per fox. and as this fox has attacked a baby in a home although i personly think itl be a dog that there trying to protect from being put down.it got me thinking about pest control what i wanted to no was other than my firearms, insurance and equipment do i need any other permits (im not going to be using poisen) i run my own buisness as it is it was just something that i was thinking about as i no there a fair bit of money iniit for foxes, ferals in warehouses and rabbits on golfcourses A spell checker might help! im far from an anti beleave me. and erm no its not a lucky dip of a licence at all it just come back with all that on after i applied for an open ticket a few weeks ago and why would i lie to someone i dont no makes no sense. and youve probably got a problem as u may have conditions immposed on yours i dont no but theres no need to be hostile is there ive been reading for a while now and got a lot of tips of here but one thing i must say is when someone asks a question what the need for everyone to put pointless comments up when there just asking a question there obviously asking as they dont no the answer Quote Link to post
The Duncan 802 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Sometimes questions asked following description of circumstances don't always seem to stack up. Quote Link to post
iana 25 Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I can assure you that I have no conditions on my license now. When I first was granted my section 1 I did have conditions on my 22rm, but after the relevant experience it's now open. I would very much doubt that any police authority would grant an open ticket for a first time application/issue. The part you mention about deer gives it away. I will personally make you an offer to come down to my permission/s with your rifles for a days shooting. If you are what you say you are I will put a personal apology on this site direct to you. 1 Quote Link to post
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