doxhope 2 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 I was once the chairman of a working lurcher club, and as a committee member had to co-deal with some arguments that ranged from petty to darn right ludicrus. We had a rabbit lamping competition, Rules, competitors walk together, both dogs ran 5 rabbits each, runs taken alternatively. In the event of a draw, it went to sudden death. All seems quite straight forward dosnt it? Or does it? Lamper A`s dog caught 4 rabbits, lamper B caught 3. All rabbits were returned by the respective dogs and put in the mens carrying bags. Contest over, back to the car, fill the form in, signed by both members, and then on to a spot of real lamping. Lamper A tips his rabbits out, only 3 in the bag, 1 must have dropped out...Lamper B refuses to accept defeat, saying there are only 3 rabbits in the bag, its a draw. Lamper A`s argument is a caught rabbit is classed as caught as soon as it is in the dogs mouth. Lamper B`s argument is caught rabbits are what are securely in the bag at the end of the event. So what was the outcome? This went in front of a committee of 7 men, who all had a vote Dont forget, before the event there was nothing to constitue what exactly is defined as a caught rabbit for the competition. Quote Link to post
Guest FOXDOG Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 I think its once the dog haws it in his mouth The best lamping dog i have ever seen wouldnt retrieve so it just dropped the rabbit and ran back so the odd one was lost if it was longish grass Thats another question was this really a good lamping dog because he wouldnt retrieve even though he was capable of putting ubelievable scores of rabbits in the bag? Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 I'd have said that it must be in the bag at the end of the night. In a coursing competition the number of hares caught only counts when the hares are laid out at the end of the comp.: Seeing the dog catch one in the distance, then failing to find the 'body of evidence' always meant that without the carcase it doesn't count as a catch. Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,435 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 If it's that petty, I don't think I'll be joining a lurcher club any time soon ! Cheers. Quote Link to post
Guest FOXDOG Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 If it's that petty, I don't think I'll be joining a lurcher club any time soon !Cheers. Your right its very petty the lad who lost should just admit he lost and stop being such a tosser Quote Link to post
doxhope 2 Posted July 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 If it's that petty, I don't think I'll be joining a lurcher club any time soon !Cheers. Like I said at the beginning, some of the things that cropped up were unbelievable..Talk about school kids, and these were grown men..I will put some more up later. Yes it does put you off joining clubs, it not just lurcher clubs, Ive been on committees of bird clubs, juniour football clubs and its just the same, well, maybe not so bad. I known some great lurchermen over the years, that would have nothing whatsoever to do with clubs..I would certainly never have anything to do with the running of one ever again. It was this sort of petty squabbling, plus a few over sized ego`s and social climbers that destroyed our club Quote Link to post
doxhope 2 Posted July 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 If it's that petty, I don't think I'll be joining a lurcher club any time soon !Cheers. Your right its very petty the lad who lost should just admit he lost and stop being such a tosser You would have thought so wouldnt you.. Quote Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 No body No evidence of the catch simple as that, but the rules should of been clear before the start of the comp! IMO Quote Link to post
doxhope 2 Posted July 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 No body No evidence of the catch simple as that, but the rules should of been clear before the start of the comp! IMO Hi joe, know exactly what you mean, but, it was a newly formed club trying to get some work, as well as shows for its members, a lamping competition had never been done before, so, after the vote of the committee concerning this argument, a rule was ritten in to all future events so they could be run smoothly and enjoyed. So which lamper lost his case? Which lamper and dog walked away from the club with their tails between their legs? PS Joe, dont forget, these blokes had been walking with each other all night, and seen every chase..So lamper B had actually witnessed lamper A`s dog catch 4 rabbits And I bet you now, the vote on here will be as close as the committees, and the result will be the same Quote Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 (edited) Lamper A defo won the comp and Lamper B knows he lost by the sounds of it A VERY BAD LOSER! sounds as if he could of even stole a rabbit outa lamper A's bag! Where abouts are you based Doxhope? The commitee should of awarded lamper A the win and changed the rules ans suspended lamper B for being a baby lol Edited July 19, 2007 by joe ox Quote Link to post
doxhope 2 Posted July 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Hi Joe, up the road from you, Northumberland. But, the club was the Northumberland & Durham Working Lurcher Club Lamper B aknowleged the fact he seen the other lads dog catch the rabbits, but stuck to his guns the rabbits should be there at the end of the competition..That was his argument. "If you were out for numbers, and killed 20, and when you got home there was only 19, you have only 19". What if the rabbit wasnt dead as it went in the bag and escaped, weve all seen our dogs catch a rabbit, turn the lamp off or swing the beam to look for the next one to chase as the dogs carrying back, put the light on and the dogs is there but not the rabbit, can you still count it? Once the dog picks a rabbit up is it not caught? Once the rabbit is in the owners hand, is it not caught? If the owner drops it, its not the dogs fault, its done its bit. There are loads of arguments as we have already seen on this thread, and I think, more to come. When I said it was petty, this argument raged on for a very long time, and the face of common sense was well and truly slapped many times. Quote Link to post
gaz 284 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Lurcher clubs = rules,comitees and a recipe for bitchy scabbles feck that !! you just need to look on here for that Not for me that, but good luck to anybody who's into this kind a thing and good luck to yourself doxhope with the stropy bairns............you should just threaten to take their sweeties off them if they don't grow up Quote Link to post
mad al 146 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 In the bag for me Al Quote Link to post
doxhope 2 Posted July 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Lurcher clubs = rules,comitees and a recipe for bitchy scabbles feck that !! you just need to look on here for that Not for me that, but good luck to anybody who's into this kind a thing and good luck to yourself doxhope with the stropy bairns............you should just threaten to take their sweeties off them if they don't grow up Hey gaz dont worry, I got out of it along time ago Quote Link to post
heart of wales 19 Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 ON BEHALF OF THE COMMITEE Thats like asking who won the football match the team that put the ball in the back of the net three times or the team that had five near misses Quote Link to post
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