Guest MOLLY Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 That is what the vet tried to tell me when they had bald patches due to washing powder...food allergy. Is it possible redmoor for a dog to be allergic to a natural diet...whole rabbits, raw meat lamb bones etc? To be honest i would rather see her with a bald patch than feed her 100% processed food if it was a food allergy. Funny thing is, the old cat (16yrs) developed a grooming obsession in exactly the same place as the dog, vets could'nt find a reason tested urea etc and it eventually went away by itself. Interesting this MOLL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redmoor 0 Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 My understanding of the whole allergy thing is that its possible for them to develop an allergy to anything that they have had reasonable contact with. My friend's PRT did well on a raw diet, but then 11m into it he began biting and licking his legs/feet..they tried EVERYTHING and couldnt come up with the stimulus that caused the biting/chewing of his own flesh. My friend broke her ankle and was in hospital having it pinned, Jet ended up in the kennels where he was fed a dried kibble..result..all the biting/chewing stopped. We wondered if he had developed some weird allergy to the raw food although she was using all different types of meat. She now feeds him JW which is probably about as natural as you can get for a kibble diet..she uses raw fish instead of raw meat and touch wood he is fine. We often send animals to skin specialists etc, but more often than not they cant even find the reason for the itching/balding etc. Its pretty complex to say the least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MOLLY Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Ive found a tube of hydrocortisone when looking for Jazz's stich cutter. Ill apply 2 times daily and see if it helps? MOLL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redmoor 0 Posted July 22, 2007 Report Share Posted July 22, 2007 Fuciderm works well, but apply any corticosteroid cream with care as it can thin the skin with long term use..also wear gloves as its possible to take some of it in via your own skin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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bill88 6 Posted July 23, 2007 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 After giving the matter some thought (about 30 seconds ) i decided to chuck the pills at the back of the medicine cabinet,and leave the dog be.Now after 6 day's,there is still no imflamation,redness,etc etc,and the coat is starting to grow back.Dog hasn't licked, scratched,or even looked at the bald patch.Should i take the matter further with this vet? i'm really not happy that they've had my business for year's,and they let a kwak,rub her hand over the bald patch,lecture me about flea's,and then prescribe two lot's of shite and charge me £30.I don't begrudge parting with £30,but i'm beginning to think that maybe she did it playfighting with one of the other dog's,and this vet,doesn't know her arse from her elbow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MOLLY Posted July 23, 2007 Report Share Posted July 23, 2007 You have to try to think about it from the vets point of view Bill. Had they done nothing and it got worse, you would be even more unhappy. They have prescribed what would most likey cure the majority of the multiple of cause's for baldness. All due to the ever increasing sue for anything culture, Doctors are also facing the same problem. I would mention it the next time you go, but i would'nt go out of my way to complain. So pleased it is growing back. But if it is anything like my bitch it might come back, so another reason to had ye tongue MOLL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MOLLY Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 Finally found out. The blood results have returned, and she is allergic too.... a mite found in hedgerows, and a mite found in grain and flour, commonly found in dusty old buildings. This fits perfectly because she never had this before i moved to the farm, and she is often found looking for mice in the barns where the silage etc are stored. They will now make a vaccine and that will get rid of it for life, hopefully. Moll. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest buster321c Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 About prednisolone Type of medicine Corticosteroid Used for To help control inflammatory and allergic conditions such as asthma, rheumatoid arthritis and colitis Also called Deltacortril Deltastab Prednesol Available as Tablets Soluble tablets Injection Certain cells in the body release chemicals which cause inflammation. Prednisolone works by stopping the release of these chemicals, therefore reducing inflammation. Before taking prednisolone Before taking prednisolone make sure your doctor or pharmacist knows: If you are pregnant, trying for a baby or breast-feeding. If you suffer from adrenal suppression. If you have ever suffered from tuberculosis (TB). If you have high blood pressure. If you have had a heart attack. If you have liver, kidney or heart problems. If you or anyone in your family has diabetes mellitus or glaucoma. If you suffer from osteoporosis (weakened bones). If you suffer from hypothyroidism. If you have any problems with your eyes. If you suffer from mental health problems. If you suffer from epilepsy. If you have had a stomach ulcer. If you have ever experienced muscle pain after taking steroids. If you have had, or are about to have any vaccinations. If you are currently unwell. If you or anyone you are in close contact with has chicken pox. How to take prednisolone Always follow the instructions given to you by your doctor. Take prednisolone with or after food. The dose of prednisolone, when taken by mouth, may consist of several tablets, and may need to be taken all at once in the morning. If you have been prescribed soluble prednisolone you must dissolve or mix it in water before taking. If you have been prescribed enteric-coated prednisolone you must swallow it whole, not chewed or crushed. If you have been taking prednisolone for a long time (more than 3 weeks), never stop treatment suddenly. Speak to your doctor who will advise on a gradual reduction. Getting the most from your treatment Long courses of prednisolone can make you more likely to catch infections, therefore if you come into contact with anyone who has measles, shingles or chicken pox (or suspects they might have them) you must see your doctor as soon as possible. If you have been given a steroid treatment card, carry it with you at all times. This is a blue card with details about dose, duration of treatment, who prescribed it, and guidance on minimising risk. Before having any kind of medical treatment or surgery, including dental or emergency treatment or any medical tests, tell the doctor, dentist or surgeon you are taking prednisolone and show them your treatment card. While taking prednisolone do not have any vaccinations without speaking to your doctor first. You should avoid taking indigestion remedies at the same time as enteric-coated prednisolone. Can prednisolone cause problems Along with their useful effects all medicines can cause unwanted side effects, which usually improve as your body adjusts to the new medicine. Speak with your doctor or pharmacist if any of the following side effects continue or become troublesome. Common side-effects - these affect less than 1 in 10 people who take this medicine What can I do if I experience this Feeling sick or indigestion Eat little and often. Stick to simple foods such as dry toast. Abdominal pain Eat little and often. Avoid wearing clothes with tight waistbands. Increased appetite Try to maintain a well-balanced diet. If you notice weight gain, speak to your doctor. Dizziness, difficulty sleeping Make sure your reactions are normal before driving, operating machinery or doing any other jobs which could be dangerous if you were not fully alert. Tiredness Speak to your doctor if this is persistent. Oral thrush You will need to see your doctor who may prescribe some lozenges for you. Long term use of high doses of prednisolone may cause Cushing's syndrome with moon face (red, puffy and round), stretch marks, and acne; thinning of the bones or skin and overgrowth of hair. These usually return to normal once the treatment has been stopped. Prednisolone may cause mood or behaviour changes - speak to your doctor if you notice any worrying changes. € Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest buster321c Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 I have to take this in 5mg tablets , i take 2 a day but if i take them on an empty stomach i get sick , since ive been taking them ive had a headache ( and ive had them since the begining of december ) they do relieve the symptoms i have ( psoriasis ) greatly , but if they were prescribed to my dog for a small bald patch like the one on molls dog , there is NO WAY i would give it to her . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Very interesting thread. My old lurcher had to go on Pred. when she had meningitis as a pup: these steroids are only a last resort IMO. Yes, she needed them to get rid of the meningal inflammation, but it knocked her immune system into a paper hat! She tore herself, just a little on barbed wire about 3 months into the treatment, (she was already much better by then and running around like any normal 7 month old pup, but the steroids neded to be gradually reduced over a long period of time) which lasted a total of 6 months, and within 12 hours had the beginnings of septicemia! Massive doses of antibiotics sorted the problem, but I've never seen such a reaction to a small cut before: just shows that the steroids are a danger and not to be used in any but the mnost extremem situation. My vet has since told me that just one or two tabs. of Prednisalone will sort out a bout of diarrhoea! It does seem as though some vets are willing to hand them out for any minor inflammatory condition these days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thislady 0 Posted September 29, 2008 Report Share Posted September 29, 2008 Oddly, the patch is more than often in the same place..the other reason we often see a patch of chewed hair like that, if it is near the hind quarters, or the flank or sometimes even over the top of the tail..is full anal glands, i have seen dog chew a hole in their thigh because of the pain of blocked/infected glands. For some reason a lot of dogs allergic to fleas will all bite roughly the same area. Its not chewed it is scratched redmoor, it clears up itself, then reappears just as it was almost fully grown back. It is in the centre of her back, and she has no problems with blocked anal glands. The clearing does not coincide with the flea treatment either. Another 2 reasons i know its def not fleas with my bitch, apart from the fact im obssessive about them Im VERY allergic to flea bites and they just love the taste of me, whenever they have caught fleas inbetween treatments i am bitten to death. Plus ive an old cat who is also allergic. When dogs live indoors as mine do and are inspected as much as mine are i would definately see some signs of fleas at some time, be it fleas, flea dirt or an increase in scratching. Plus if it was an allergy then she has only just developed it at 4yr old? I'd love to know what it is though? The patch looks darker in this picture due to bushing the last 2 days, no coat means no protection so it is scratched to bits from the brambles etc. MOLL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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