wirral countryman 2,110 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 you might start with cleaning you terriers face or did you want the photo first :hmm:oldfred i know old red. and both them dogs. in fact i was there when that pic was taken. and you really should look closely at that pic. that little terrier is up on its toes and fresh with a couple of nips. and was no worse for it. ive had a few very happy hours out with this chap. and like him i like to see terrierwork to be sporting . but terrierwork is terrierwork. and the little dogs take the odd scratch. i take folk as i find them and i found old red to be a gent. edd mog arran.jpg the dog in the avatar had a great home and lived well into its dotage in a very good home indeed. just ignore the winkers. and hello to you and your family sheep shacger Really like them dogs,the lurcher looks a handy dog to take out,atb,WM 2 Quote Link to post
fieldsportsman 107 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 good post Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 The respect for quarries and seasons is something that is generally passed down from mentor to pupil .Seems to be a few young uns out and about who neither want or think they need tutoring .It is no good all you whiners moaning about it when some do nothing to promote the ethics we live by .How many of you seasoned terriermen have a lad along these days .not many i,ll bet.The argument for dig and release has never been one im comfortable with but maybe we are lucky around here in that we have plenty to go at .I dont know a single farmer /keeper that allows lads on to dig then release quarry and if your doing it behind their backs then your no better than the no respecters and if you are digging with no permission then enough said .. Speaking for myself ,the permission comes from the notion that we will provide a service and control the pests, not release them to carry on their ravages.. There is no shame in digging cubs either ,providing their demise is for a reason and the killing is sanctioned by the landowner . That said, there is definately no place for disrespecting quarry or terriers and humane despatch is the gaol every time . Please ,for those of you able ,take some time to educate a youngster before its all lost to history . 12 Quote Link to post
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 The respect for quarries and seasons is something that is generally passed down from mentor to pupil .Seems to be a few young uns out and about who neither want or think they need tutoring .It is no good all you whiners moaning about it when some do nothing to promote the ethics we live by .How many of you seasoned terriermen have a lad along these days .not many i,ll bet.The argument for dig and release has never been one im comfortable with but maybe we are lucky around here in that we have plenty to go at .I dont know a single farmer /keeper that allows lads on to dig then release quarry and if your doing it behind their backs then your no better than the no respecters and if you are digging with no permission then enough said .. Speaking for myself ,the permission comes from the notion that we will provide a service and control the pests, not release them to carry on their ravages.. There is no shame in digging cubs either ,providing their demise is for a reason and the killing is sanctioned by the landowner . That said, there is definately no place for disrespecting quarry or terriers and humane despatch is the gaol every time . Please ,for those of you able ,take some time to educate a youngster before its all lost to history . totally agree with the above. but i have no stomach for cubbing. if the job is done right then you need replacements for the following season. jmo 1 Quote Link to post
oldred58 340 Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 well my friend you are quite fortunate to have to have abundance to go at, But between the rifle men & bull Xs, lamping all year round, there is very little Around my area. as for letting fox bolt if it is causing no problems in the area why kill it for the fun of it, if I get called out to a farm were charlie is doing damage he will be disbatched of, and if the land owner asks me to clear a vixen and cubs then I will, As for taking young lads out this i have done over the years some will go for a week or so never to be seen again others will go behind your back, and like most of the clowns on here will read a book and tell you how to hunt your dogs.I was brought up to respect all things in life not just the hunting game. 9 Quote Link to post
paddy31 120 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 well my friend you are quite fortunate to have to have abundance to go at, But between the rifle men & bull Xs, lamping all year round, there is very little Around my area. as for letting fox bolt if it is causing no problems in the area why kill it for the fun of it, if I get called out to a farm were charlie is doing damage he will be disbatched of, and if the land owner asks me to clear a vixen and cubs then I will, As for taking young lads out this i have done over the years some will go for a week or so never to be seen again others will go behind your back, and like most of the clowns on here will read a book and tell you how to hunt your dogs.I was brought up to respect all things in life not just the hunting game. Oldred58 I would have to agree with your words 100%. All the best Paddy31. Quote Link to post
chicken 2 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 good post mate very true Quote Link to post
Irish85 23 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Killing cubs is sometimes a neccessity and lets get real foxes are vermin not GAME, and you get permission to hunt land to rid it of vermin and control numbers, dont get me wrong i dont mind seeing a fox give a good account for itself when run but if it gets away i know it will still be got another day 1 Quote Link to post
dusk til dawn 169 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Your post seemed to go the way of diggin, but you did mention pre ban hare courseing and while watching a good course i always rooted for MY dog, sometimes if after a good course a winter hare hit cover or lost the dog so be it, fair play to the hare . yea it might be an unbelievable hare or the dog might have been a bit "off" but hay there was never quick slip that one in ! Respecting quarry is the first rule in hunting... And if a youngster is keen to learn then i would gamble on takin them but dodgy ground i suppose ive never had my fingers burned yet . important post mate goodun. Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I get the impression that you think all bull cross owners are non educated delinquents, and if you wanna be a good respectful hunter, you need a collie cross? I totally agree with respecting quarry, but why bring breeds into it, as its surely the dogs owners at fault, not the dog? In the last thread you liked an all rounder, and this one you hate folk that can kill any game they come accross? Seems you have a bee in your bonet about something...?Where is all this evidence youve been reading on here about folk not disrespecting their quarry, as surely the mods should have done something about this? C'mon OldRed, name and shame all these bad people please 3 Quote Link to post
kruby01 114 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 it annoys me when people get their quarry and chuck it in a ditch. there is a use for everything, even if it is dog food like i do 1 Quote Link to post
Borderforce 25 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) .. Edited March 7, 2013 by Borderforce Quote Link to post
oldred58 340 Posted February 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I agree with leaving some run for another day but if you were seen to let old Charlie go deliberately wouldn't that be seen as braking the law cause terrier work is no longer a sport but a means of control correct me if im wrong cause its something ive been thinking for a while but aint 100% sure I will seek advice from my solicitor tomorrow, and get back to you on that one Quote Link to post
rossthedog 76 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 For me hunting and how I o about it has always been a matter of concionce not a matter of law,if you work your dogs hard during the season and control heavily then summer work is never necessary,to relese foxes after a dig is down to you but don't moan when cubs consequently have to be dealt with,sport and control can and should go hand in hand. Quote Link to post
whippet 99 2,613 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 half of them these days got no respect for there selfs ,humanity ,................let alone what they hunt...... and its not just what they hunt , its respect for the countryside ,.......back filling properly and leaving places as you find them....... 6 Quote Link to post
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