hounddog3 744 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 there are lads on here go out and get 6 min runs every time. either the dogs are crap or they meet the best hares every time in the greyhound game the dog might get labeled unguinne not a goodun. Quote Link to post
troter58 1,711 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 sit here and see how long five mins is its a long time ran dogs on the fens and field a 2 min run is a long time tickles me how people come out with my dog ran a hare for a good 5 mins when really it would have been 2 mins why would you want to time how long the dog as run any thing some funny folk about Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 A run is has long as it takes the dog to kill it or miss it . 1 Quote Link to post
brendy mc l 694 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 here in ireland very hard to get big long runs but iv watched a few but they were no five mintue courses 3 mins or a bit more my own run one till the hare stopped he was only young maybe a more expireance dog would have done it quicker but that hare just lied down had enough dog got it that was a few mins Quote Link to post
boyo 1,398 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 The main reson a dog has to run a long way is because it hasnt caught the hare. The average slip for a lurcher is around 5 to 10 yards which means if the dog takes 2 minetes to catch it. It is because it can not strike very well. Many a good whippet could catch them off slips like that, so its no big deal if a lurcher does. End of story. 1 Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 I've had a few dogs that wouldn't have stood a cat in hell's chance of catching a hare off a fair slip: they could nab them easily if they were put up out of their seat a few yards in front of the dog, but that ain't coursing, and never a fair test of hare or dog. Hares take longer to get into their stride than rabbits: a lot of so called 'wonder dogs' would have built their reputation on kick ups: or so it would seem from some of the videos I've seen. Quote Link to post
fitchet 788 Posted February 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 I've had a few dogs that wouldn't have stood a cat in hell's chance of catching a hare off a fair slip: they could nab them easily if they were put up out of their seat a few yards in front of the dog, but that ain't coursing, and never a fair test of hare or dog. Hares take longer to get into their stride than rabbits: a lot of so called 'wonder dogs' would have built their reputation on kick ups: or so it would seem from some of the videos I've seen. There are alot of lads whos dogs have only cuaght kickups and miss on a fair slip. The bad thing is they rate these dogs and breed out of them and sell the pups for silly money !! I allways let a hare have a good few yards before i slip otherwise what is the point. All the best Quote Link to post
killing crew 2,708 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 A top notch hare will take bout 5 mins to be caught I don't care if its the best fast killing dog in the country if it drops on the right hare it will take that long and if it can't stay that long it won't catch it, and a dog that can't kill a top notcher can't be considered to be top class, also I think you have got to know the dog to know how good the hare is because if you see a 5 min run with a dog you don't know you can't assume it was a very good hare because the dog mite be crap and a different dog mite of done it in 2 or 3 mins, like I say got to know the dog to know the hare very true lucas run one yesterday for 5 mins Quote Link to post
weasle 1,119 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 (edited) I've had a few dogs that wouldn't have stood a cat in hell's chance of catching a hare off a fair slip: they could nab them easily if they were put up out of their seat a few yards in front of the dog, but that ain't coursing, and never a fair test of hare or dog. Hares take longer to get into their stride than rabbits: a lot of so called 'wonder dogs' would have built their reputation on kick ups: or so it would seem from some of the videos I've seen. I agree with that,If your were out mooching it could happen,But then Ive seen them somehow dodge the first couple of strikes and get running. But if you have a dog who can only catch a hare by exhausting it is that a true test? If id had to have one or the other id rather have a dog to mug the odd one out the seat. Edited February 7, 2013 by weasle 1 Quote Link to post
romany52 313 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 are the hares on the fens different to hares elsewhere? its been a longtime since i ran a hare(1993 was the last time) but if any of my mongrel lurchers had taken any more than 3 mins to catch a hare i would have been very dissapointed! Ohhh aye, they are super hares or so I'm told. It's down to the good feeding, game crops etc and all the exercise they get from the plodders Hares definitely vary enormously , I ran the fens twice a week for a few years. On a Sunday morning, half the country was there! Now find a corner out of the way, no one else knew about and the dogs would piss allover the high number of hares to be found. On the places all and sundry went, same dogs, totally different story!. 4 Quote Link to post
delargy 45 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 i think most of thes 5and6 minute runs are hearsay seeing is beleiving ived only seen one over the years and the dog was goosed for the rest of the day and before the crabbers start this was a better than average bitch Quote Link to post
killing crew 2,708 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 are the hares on the fens different to hares elsewhere? its been a longtime since i ran a hare(1993 was the last time) but if any of my mongrel lurchers had taken any more than 3 mins to catch a hare i would have been very dissapointed! Ohhh aye, they are super hares or so I'm told. It's down to the good feeding, game crops etc and all the exercise they get from the ploddersHares definitely vary enormously , I ran the fens twice a week for a few years. On a Sunday morning, half the country was there! Now find a corner out of the way, no one else knew about and the dogs would piss allover the high number of hares to be found. On the places all and sundry went, same dogs, totally different story!.thats why some lads that go on permission that only gets run 2 or 3 times a season are kidding there selfs when knocking big numbers over get the same dogs on rabbits that are run every day and its a different out come 3 Quote Link to post
delargy 45 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 the big match is being run on ground that the hares havent seen a dog all year rem somebody posted earlier nobody gets on til after shootin over are they soft hates then Quote Link to post
pikesta 54 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 watched a run a couple of week back that was getin on for 5 mins, first 2 the bitch was all over it then she was just bascially following 40 yards behind. there was no cover about and the hare just kept runing round in circles. after 4 mins she got back to it and should of killed it but again it pulled away, this time heading for a back garden and this is were she lost it. she would usually kill in the 1st 2 mins but she was just back off an injury. nice to see she has extra in the tank! Quote Link to post
boyo 1,398 Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 any hare given fair law this time of year is not going to roll over easy but hares do vary in differant parts of the country . but i gotta say them fen hares after christmas up to end of feb are real ball and heart breakers.and give a running dog a real test. and anyone that thinks fen hares are easy at these times aint giving the hare fair law imo. 1 Quote Link to post
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