Somethings Wrong With This Country...

[paulus 26]

I know quite a few white girls with the odd kid fathered by Asians, and I live in one of the countries least ethnically diverse counties. The young Asian lads want to live the same sort of life as we all do at a certain age, drinking, shagging, etc. Nothing illegal or untoward going on there, but the problem is their culture is dead against it, so they will not do it with or around their own girls.. This is where the issues start to arise with the way certain types of girls are being targeted and abused, I don't care what anybody says - it is a cultural issue, no two ways about it IMO..

 

Going back to the role of the parents of the abused girls, I can't help but feel the general breakdown of discipline and the way society insists you treat children as adults with all the same rights and privileges from the word go is partly to blame.. Kids these days don't have the same respect for adults that we had in generations past. Kids are not ready for the privileges and rights that adults have, and it's the job of the parents to ensure that they are ready and able to handle themselves appropriately when they reach adulthood. I'm all for giving a kid love and respect, but IMO a good parent shouldn't be backward and tread lightly when a kid needs to be corrected, no matter if they're 5 or 15.. You need to be consistent when needed - constant love, constant respect and constant discipline..

my 2 lads are now 26 and 17 and as i said earlier are like chalk and cheese both have taken very different paths in life, however if you ask them both will say that whilst they were growing up i was always strict both are aware that there actions have consiquences but both are different.

[Malt 379]

Malt but in some cases kids WILL deflect because of the constant disipline

they see there mates without the disipline and think feck that im not taking any notice and rebel

 

just remember when you was a kid

Thats where you have to find the right balance Tuffty.. It ain't easy, and like you say - other people's bad parenting often has a nasty habit of rubbing off on your kids..

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

i read a link earlier about the cases in oxford one of the girls father had done everything he could to stop it happening, police social services even walking the streets and nobody wanted to know or do anything, so maybe its not just the parents faults maybe its the system aswell.

Cant get with that at all mate, as any parent will know, wild horses wouldnt stop you from getting to these people........it would stop because they wouldnt be physically capable of doing it any more.

 

These people always want to blame "the system" or "society" or "poverty"........99.9% of these type of folk want to give their f***ing head a shake, you dont need money or a social worker to be a good parent and raise your children with values.

Kids are a one shot deal, you get one chance at raising them right and doing your best by them........you dont get a second go round.

We have all seen these familys where there a few kids to different dads, the mums sitting around smoking weed all day with her latest boyfriend, the old man is an alky or always in & out the nick for some petty crime

House is a khazi, no interest taken in the childrens apperance, education, well being or where they are.........these folk should be sterilized.

Kids need normal and boring and a whole lot of love and encouragement..........not coming home to a house full of shitbags, sat on their arse stinking and doing drugs.

NOT ALL TROUBLED CHILDREN come from uncaring drug fuelled homes FACT.................. and NOT ALL TROUBLED CHILDREN come from families where the children have different fathers FACT, raising teenagers is a hard enough task these days and when they take their attitude and decide to do things behind your back then it is hard for parents to keep up with them, yes people can sit on the net and profess that they wouldn't allow their children to do this and that BUT it's what those children will do/try behind your back that sets the ball rolling with what path they take, all teenagers will do what you dont want behind your back be it trying drink/drugs bad company,most come out the other side absolutely fine but unfortunately some go down the wrong path, this DOES NOT mean they have bad parents, this DOES NOT mean that they must have come from junkie mothers and fathers or a different father from their siblings..............this means they are choosing the path they want to go down, parents can try everything in their power to stop them but some just keep going and rebel worse. These girls DO NOT deserve to be treated in this way from this scum or anyone whether they come from a broken home/ a drug fuelled home/ have a different father to their siblings/ or come from a stable loving home...........

If your 13 year old daughter was coming home at all hours wearing men's clothes, what would you do?

[paulus 26]

 

 

 

 

i read a link earlier about the cases in oxford one of the girls father had done everything he could to stop it happening, police social services even walking the streets and nobody wanted to know or do anything, so maybe its not just the parents faults maybe its the system aswell.

Cant get with that at all mate, as any parent will know, wild horses wouldnt stop you from getting to these people........it would stop because they wouldnt be physically capable of doing it any more.

 

These people always want to blame "the system" or "society" or "poverty"........99.9% of these type of folk want to give their f***ing head a shake, you dont need money or a social worker to be a good parent and raise your children with values.

Kids are a one shot deal, you get one chance at raising them right and doing your best by them........you dont get a second go round.

We have all seen these familys where there a few kids to different dads, the mums sitting around smoking weed all day with her latest boyfriend, the old man is an alky or always in & out the nick for some petty crime

House is a khazi, no interest taken in the childrens apperance, education, well being or where they are.........these folk should be sterilized.

Kids need normal and boring and a whole lot of love and encouragement..........not coming home to a house full of shitbags, sat on their arse stinking and doing drugs.

NOT ALL TROUBLED CHILDREN come from uncaring drug fuelled homes FACT.................. and NOT ALL TROUBLED CHILDREN come from families where the children have different fathers FACT, raising teenagers is a hard enough task these days and when they take their attitude and decide to do things behind your back then it is hard for parents to keep up with them, yes people can sit on the net and profess that they wouldn't allow their children to do this and that BUT it's what those children will do/try behind your back that sets the ball rolling with what path they take, all teenagers will do what you dont want behind your back be it trying drink/drugs bad company,most come out the other side absolutely fine but unfortunately some go down the wrong path, this DOES NOT mean they have bad parents, this DOES NOT mean that they must have come from junkie mothers and fathers or a different father from their siblings..............this means they are choosing the path they want to go down, parents can try everything in their power to stop them but some just keep going and rebel worse. These girls DO NOT deserve to be treated in this way from this scum or anyone whether they come from a broken home/ a drug fuelled home/ have a different father to their siblings/ or come from a stable loving home...........

If your 13 year old daughter was coming home at all hours wearing men's clothes, what would you do?

buy her a dress

[baw 4,360]

[Malt 379]

 

I know quite a few white girls with the odd kid fathered by Asians, and I live in one of the countries least ethnically diverse counties. The young Asian lads want to live the same sort of life as we all do at a certain age, drinking, shagging, etc. Nothing illegal or untoward going on there, but the problem is their culture is dead against it, so they will not do it with or around their own girls.. This is where the issues start to arise with the way certain types of girls are being targeted and abused, I don't care what anybody says - it is a cultural issue, no two ways about it IMO..

Going back to the role of the parents of the abused girls, I can't help but feel the general breakdown of discipline and the way society insists you treat children as adults with all the same rights and privileges from the word go is partly to blame.. Kids these days don't have the same respect for adults that we had in generations past. Kids are not ready for the privileges and rights that adults have, and it's the job of the parents to ensure that they are ready and able to handle themselves appropriately when they reach adulthood. I'm all for giving a kid love and respect, but IMO a good parent shouldn't be backward and tread lightly when a kid needs to be corrected, no matter if they're 5 or 15.. You need to be consistent when needed - constant love, constant respect and constant discipline..

my 2 lads are now 26 and 17 and as i said earlier are like chalk and cheese both have taken very different paths in life, however if you ask them both will say that whilst they were growing up i was always strict both are aware that there actions have consiquences but both are different.

Spot on mate, a kid's got to learn that early on, it's life's most important lesson IMO..

[TUFFTY 1,484]

i myself have 4 kids well semi adults and 3 are girls 16/18 and 22

 

allthough i do not live with them its constant pressure for there mother,

 

as they dont care a flying fook what i have to say on any matter wotsoever.

 

its NOT about what you do if this or that happens,

 

ita what you are doing NOW that matters.

 

Its a very difficult place this world we live in

[paulus 26]

i myself have 4 kids well semi adults and 3 are girls 16/18 and 22

 

allthough i do not live with them its constant pressure for there mother,

 

as they dont care a flying fook what i have to say on any matter wotsoever.

 

its NOT about what you do if this or that happens,

 

ita what you are doing NOW that matters.

 

Its a very difficult place this world we live in

i fear more for my kids, kids thats for sure

[vixen 528]

 

i myself have 4 kids well semi adults and 3 are girls 16/18 and 22

 

allthough i do not live with them its constant pressure for there mother,

 

as they dont care a flying fook what i have to say on any matter wotsoever.

 

its NOT about what you do if this or that happens,

 

ita what you are doing NOW that matters.

 

Its a very difficult place this world we live in

i fear more for my kids, kids thats for sure

 

 

BAW..............if i had a 13yr old daughter and she was coming home with mens clothes then obviously i would deal with the situation how i saw fit at the time, i have three sons two of which in the teenage years have given me grief that i have dealt with and had plenty of stressful situations with them but all three now have grown into mature adults and have children of their own now and see for themselves the error of their teenage years!! The rebel teenage years are no fun but worth it when you see them take the right path, parents can only guide their children, they cannot force or make them do something, when they reach a certain age they choose their own path which in some cases unfortunately goes out of the parents control, but until parents have been through bad/good times with their teenage sons/daughters then they should NEVER comment on anyone elses children who are maybe going through a tough time!

[TUFFTY 1,484]

life is like a tom-tom

 

you never know if your going in the right direction

 

untill you get there.

 

Sometimes the tom-tom is wrong

 

so you have to start all over again

[Malt 379]

The rebel teenage years are no fun but worth it when you see them take the right path, parents can only guide their children, they cannot force or make them do something, when they reach a certain age they choose their own path which in some cases unfortunately goes out of the parents control, but until parents have been through bad/good times with their teenage sons/daughters then they should NEVER comment on anyone elses children who are maybe going through a tough time!

How true is that! I've always maintained that you don't own your kids, you can't control them only guide them on their path to adulthood as best you can. Sometimes you have to guide them more firmly than others, its a fine line. My eldest daughter is 18, she don't live with me and she gave her mother hell while at the 'awkward age'. While her mother tried tackling it head on, fight fire with fire, (awkward bitch herself for the most part.. ) I changed tack and started giving her a bit more rope of her own to play with.

 

Her mother had been using me as a remote weapon of discipline all her life because she always gave in to her, and when she needed her to behave, used to threaten her with 'I'll phone your dad'.. I've been strict with her all her life - people could never believe that the polite, quiet girl in my company was the same one I'd be telling them about when she was playing her mother up.

 

When she got to that certain age, a lifetime of being given her own way came back to bite her mother on the arse in a big, big way.. The 'I'll phone your dad' line stopped working as my daughter started to think for herself, and I tried the tactic of speaking to my daughter as more of an equal offering advise instead of telling her what she should be doing. It paid off, because now at 18 we have more of a laugh together than we ever have, and are far more comfortable in each others company.

 

Whether the same thing will work with my other 3 (11,10 & 4) when they get to that age is another thing!

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

i myself have 4 kids well semi adults and 3 are girls 16/18 and 22

 

allthough i do not live with them its constant pressure for there mother,

 

as they dont care a flying fook what i have to say on any matter wotsoever.

 

its NOT about what you do if this or that happens,

 

ita what you are doing NOW that matters.

 

Its a very difficult place this world we live in

i fear more for my kids, kids thats for sure

 

 

BAW..............if i had a 13yr old daughter and she was coming home with mens clothes then obviously i would deal with the situation how i saw fit at the time, i have three sons two of which in the teenage years have given me grief that i have dealt with and had plenty of stressful situations with them but all three now have grown into mature adults and have children of their own now and see for themselves the error of their teenage years!! The rebel teenage years are no fun but worth it when you see them take the right path, parents can only guide their children, they cannot force or make them do something, when they reach a certain age they choose their own path which in some cases unfortunately goes out of the parents control, but until parents have been through bad/good times with their teenage sons/daughters then they should NEVER comment on anyone elses children who are maybe going through a tough time!

Did you answer the question? Was that your answer in the first line of that lecture? As you see fit at the time? Thanks for that.......

[twobob 1,497]

Yes, they are called the army.

somethings wrong with THIS country ,so you put a link up to the u s, thats whats wrong with the country sticking our noses in other countrys in stead of sorting this shit hole out first.

[LaraCroft 863]

I don't have kids, but watch my 2 nephews changing behaviour with interest - they are 3 and 5, and already learning to manipulate situations. My sister has gone down the " I don't believe in discipline, they are kids, they will learn in time" route. So when the older one refused to go to bed last week, she let him stay up til he fell asleep in the lounge at gone midnight, He was shattered and whingey all the next day, but she was adamant he would learn that being tired the next day was a consequence, and as such, would agree to go to bed earlier. It hasn't happened yet.

 

Having said that, I was a shit of a teenager, and left home at 14, and had nothing to do with my family until I was 20. Now me and my parents get on as adults and friends. I was lucky, Being a parent must be the most difficult mix of awesome and heartbreak ever.

[bigdaz 688]

Yes, they are called the army.

 

You're a disgrace mate.