Raw Meat

[BOLIO1 1,078]

Well considered response Lara. I'm not a nutritionist either but that shouldn't preclude either of us from rational thinking. Even whole carcass feeding, which is as near as we can get to a natural diet, involves ingestion of materials that will be digested at different rates. Fur covered hide, muscle, tendon, bone and organ tissue. The liver and muscle will contain glycogen which is effectively carbohydrate, but the fact is that many performance dogs are indeed fed a mixture and seem to suffer no ill effects. Sometimes it seems that the debate has crossed the line between science and ideology.....where each side searches for confirmation bias to bolster their own strongly held position. The scientific way would be to consider all the evidence with equal diligence and to come to the position that best fits with that evidence......imho.

 

In any case it's a good thing to be asking the question as it shows we care about what our dogs need.

[sandymere 8,263]

Its nice to see a little common sense coming to the fore in the discussion of feeding.

 

 

I am a nutritionist, member of the Canine Nutritional Consortium, (CNC) just joking. But as the term nutritionist has no real meaning anyone can call themselves one and make up such things as the CNC. So not being a nutritionist is usually a good sign as those that claim to be one are often dodgy. The real ones are dieticians.

 

 

 

 

Ps amylase/ptyalin, we secrete it in the mouth as we chew and then in intestine, although the salivary amylase has a minor effect compared to the pancreatic amylase. Dogs just produce the more powerful pancreatic in the intestine as they dont chew.

Edited March 11, 2013 by sandymere

[beast 1,884]

some interesting posts here. i'm just wondering why feeding raw and dry together would increase the chances of bloat?

[sandymere 8,263]

Does it???, feeding dry does to a small degree but less than the rate of problems caused by feeding raw or bones so it's all swings and roundabouts.

 

At the end of the day everything has risks it's a matter of weighing them and being sensible ie feed decent quality meat, don't over do bones, have water available when feeding dry and keep healthy dogs as far as possible.

[beast 1,884]

Does it???, feeding dry does to a small degree but less than the rate of problems caused by feeding raw or bones so it's all swings and roundabouts.

 

At the end of the day everything has risks it's a matter of weighing them and being sensible ie feed decent quality meat, don't over do bones, have water available when feeding dry and keep healthy dogs as far as possible.

 

personally i wouldnt think it would make any difference to the incidences of bloat, but another member posted on the first page that mixing dry and raw can increase the chances. i just wondered if he/she was basing thae statement on anything solid or just hearsay?

[sandymere 8,263]

 

 

Does it???, feeding dry does to a small degree but less than the rate of problems caused by feeding raw or bones so it's all swings and roundabouts.

 

At the end of the day everything has risks it's a matter of weighing them and being sensible ie feed decent quality meat, don't over do bones, have water available when feeding dry and keep healthy dogs as far as possible.

personally i wouldnt think it would make any difference to the incidences of bloat, but another member posted on the first page that mixing dry and raw can increase the chances. i just wondered if he/she was basing thae statement on anything solid or just hearsay?

What more common sense! Im not used to seeing that on here so apologies if my reply seemed to accusatory or churlish. Usually when the raw/dried debate gets mentioned its all about how completes are killing/poisoning all the dogs or such like, admittedly in the past I have enjoyed reading some of the more outlandish claims and baiting the posters, but its would seem that good old common sense seem to be holding sway this time.

Very refreshing.

[beast 1,884]

agreed. i am no nutritonist/dietician/ whatever but there are certain things upon which i like to base my opinions. firstly, what i have experienced first-hand myself. secondly, information gained from good research and experimentation; and thirdly advice from people i have come over time to trust, in other words whose advice has been shown again and again to be good.

its not just nutrition sandymere, everything to do with running dogs seems to attract opinions based upon old wives tales, misunderstanding, gut instinct or bad information, or "my dads uncles brother knew a bloke who did such and such, so it must be true"..........

and no you didnt seem churlish.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

My dads brothers sisters friends uncles son once fed their dog a chicken bone and it died 3 years later of cancer so I won't ever feed a dog bones again