So, Tell Us, What Are Ye All At In The Veg Garden?

[darbo 4,776]

i know you can grow big onions by sowing outside in aug and overwintering harvest in june.But too much risk for me and they occupy the ground 10 months or so so i will give that a miss and try like you and courseadog and start them off indoors.The variety used is usually paris early white for over wintering onions.

Edited December 25, 2014 by darbo

[terryd 8,714]

They have a thread dedicated to it here

http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?topic=117739.0

[darbo 4,776]

  On 26/12/2014 at 10:39, terryd said:

They have a thread dedicated to it here

http://chat.allotment-garden.org/index.php?topic=117739.0

Thanks Terry.

[courseadog 231]

  On 25/12/2014 at 21:05, terryd said:

 

  On 25/12/2014 at 16:09, courseadog said:

Iv done better with seeds then I have sets in past from window to plant out

Iv had to add plenty of quality top soil this year which iv got outa a place near

Me

I made the mistake of digging to deep and had bad results in one of my raised beds

Adding more beds this year aswell

 

good to know when did you sow ?

Same as darbos advice shows I will b starting them end of jan on window seal the seed box will b inside a week or so earlya

To warm it up

[Tiercel 6,986]

These are the best onions I have ever grown. They keep till the next may in onion sacks in a cool place.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=Rijnsburger+5+balstora+seeds&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=3&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50

 

TC

[darbo 4,776]

  On 26/12/2014 at 11:03, tiercel said:

These are the best onions I have ever grown. They keep till the next may in onion sacks in a cool place.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=Rijnsburger+5+balstora+seeds&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=3&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50

 

TC

Nice one TC ive been searching this morning on the internet wondering which seeds to get i will give them a go.

[courseadog 231]

Anyone use heirloom seeds ??

[Tiercel 6,986]

Or if you want a larger onion try these, Kelsae I grew them once with seeds from a showman it was his strain of kelsea that he had been developing for over 30 years.

 

Just growing them on the plot they averaged 4lb and one made 6lb dressed. Lovely and mild eating onion but do not keep too long.

 

If anyone wants them I came across my old growing notes the other week, on bed preparation for onions.

 

TC

[darbo 4,776]

  On 26/12/2014 at 12:04, tiercel said:

Or if you want a larger onion try these, Kelsae I grew them once with seeds from a showman it was his strain of kelsea that he had been developing for over 30 years.

 

Just growing them on the plot they averaged 4lb and one made 6lb dressed. Lovely and mild eating onion but do not keep too long.

 

If anyone wants them I came across my old growing notes the other week, on bed preparation for onions.

 

TC

i would appreciate reading your notes on bed preparation for onions if possible TC anything veg/plot related i cant read enough of.

[terryd 8,714]

same all info gratefully received need all the help going

I have a packet of Rijnsburger ready to go after you mentioned them before

Edited December 26, 2014 by terryd

[Tiercel 6,986]

I had better type this out, I was going to take a photo, but lets just say the notes are not in my BEST handwriting.

 

Make the beds about 18" wide dig in plenty of well rotted manure (about a 3" layer) in the Autumn (now will not be too late). Then loosely cover the bed with black polythene, thats just to keep the weeds down and help the soil warm in the spring. I planted mine out on or after the 6th of May when all chance of a heavy frost has gone. About one week before planting out take off the black polythene and give it a dust of Seagold fine, (calcified seaweed) and Vitax Q4 4oz per square yard of each and lightly rake in.

 

If you want at this time a trickle hose can be run down the centre of the bed to help with watering Then replace the black polythene properly this time digging it in at the sides to make it firm. At this point if you can get it, white polythene can be run out over the black. It will increase your yield considerably by the double photosynthesis, light bouncing back up off the white polythene will hit the bottom of the leaves of the plants.

 

When planting out cut holes about three inches in diameter in the polythene 6" in from each edge something like this

 

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Space the onions about 8 or 9" apart in each row.

 

TC

 

Edited to add: Cos I forgot, sow the seeds in a good quality compost. Viking was the choice back then, but Levingtons M3 or M4 is just as good. Don't use the budget composts from Aldi or Asda.

Edited December 26, 2014 by tiercel

[mackem 28,203]

Pineapples,had a few problems but getting there in the end.

 

[darbo 4,776]

  On 26/12/2014 at 14:01, tiercel said:

I had better type this out, I was going to take a photo, but lets just say the notes are not in my BEST handwriting.

 

Make the beds about 18" wide dig in plenty of well rotted manure (about a 3" layer) in the Autumn (now will not be too late). Then loosely cover the bed with black polythene, thats just to keep the weeds down and help the soil warm in the spring. I planted mine out on or after the 6th of May when all chance of a heavy frost has gone. About one week before planting out take off the black polythene and give it a dust of Seagold fine, (calcified seaweed) and Vitax Q4 4oz per square yard of each and lightly rake in.

 

If you want at this time a trickle hose can be run down the centre of the bed to help with watering Then replace the black polythene properly this time digging it in at the sides to make it firm. At this point if you can get it, white polythene can be run out over the black. It will increase your yield considerably by the double photosynthesis, light bouncing back up off the white polythene will hit the bottom of the leaves of the plants.

 

When planting out cut holes about three inches in diameter in the polythene 6" in from each edge something like this

 

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* * * * * *

* * * * *

-------------------------

Space the onions about 8 or 9" apart in each row.

 

TC

 

  On 26/12/2014 at 14:01, tiercel said:

I had better type this out, I was going to take a photo, but lets just say the notes are not in my BEST handwriting.

 

Make the beds about 18" wide dig in plenty of well rotted manure (about a 3" layer) in the Autumn (now will not be too late). Then loosely cover the bed with black polythene, thats just to keep the weeds down and help the soil warm in the spring. I planted mine out on or after the 6th of May when all chance of a heavy frost has gone. About one week before planting out take off the black polythene and give it a dust of Seagold fine, (calcified seaweed) and Vitax Q4 4oz per square yard of each and lightly rake in.

 

If you want at this time a trickle hose can be run down the centre of the bed to help with watering Then replace the black polythene properly this time digging it in at the sides to make it firm. At this point if you can get it, white polythene can be run out over the black. It will increase your yield considerably by the double photosynthesis, light bouncing back up off the white polythene will hit the bottom of the leaves of the plants.

 

When planting out cut holes about three inches in diameter in the polythene 6" in from each edge something like this

 

-------------------------

* * * * * *

* * * * *

-------------------------

Space the onions about 8 or 9" apart in each row.

 

TC

Much appreciated TC.

[Tiercel 6,986]

Cos I forgot, sow the seeds in a good quality compost. Viking was the choice back then, but Levingtons M3 or M4 is just as good. Don't use the budget composts from Aldi or Asda. Sow them in plug trays if you can get them, once they have thier first true leaf pot them on into 3inch pots and add about a quarter soil to compost to the compost mix (mole hill soil being about the best soil), and pack down pretty tight. This has the effect of getting the roots used to pushing through the soil which is harder than the compost so when planted out they get away quicker.

 

TC

[terryd 8,714]

Yea thanks Allan no excuses this year now