Tyla 3,179 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Right, I'm a total novice at growing things and I might have partially missed the boat this year but I'd like to have a try at least. Due to getting distracted by things, mostly fishing, i've only just sorted out my raised beds. Got one 6'x 4' and one 4'x 4'. What soil mix should I fill them with and what should I be planting in them at this time of year? I have access to unlimited well rotted horse manure so would ideally like to use as much of that as possible to keep costs down. Any and all advice gratefully received Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,423 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 On 30/05/2017 at 15:59, Tyla said: Right, I'm a total novice at growing things and I might have partially missed the boat this year but I'd like to have a try at least. Due to getting distracted by things, mostly fishing, i've only just sorted out my raised beds. Got one 6'x 4' and one 4'x 4'. What soil mix should I fill them with and what should I be planting in them at this time of year? I have access to unlimited well rotted horse manure so would ideally like to use as much of that as possible to keep costs down. Any and all advice gratefully received This should give you some ideas http://www.realseeds.co.uk/Monthlysowing.html loads to be sowing yet. As for what soil well rotted manure sounds good to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyla 3,179 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Perfect, thank you. I got the beds in and levelled this evening so I'll go and dig up some of the muck mountain tomorrow. Should I put it in neat or mix any sand or anything into it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,423 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 On 30/05/2017 at 18:44, Tyla said: Perfect, thank you. I got the beds in and levelled this evening so I'll go and dig up some of the muck mountain tomorrow. Should I put it in neat or mix any sand or anything into it? I would be tempted to throw a bag or two of compost in at least the top level as the manure maybe a bit chunky initially. Just to make it easier to sow small stuff if thats your plan. Even with the allotment I am finding it beneficial to start lots of stuff in modules after watching old charles dowding lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyla 3,179 Posted May 30, 2017 Report Share Posted May 30, 2017 Cheers, I chuck some compost in too then Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie m 668 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 30/05/2017 at 15:59, Tyla said: Right, I'm a total novice at growing things and I might have partially missed the boat this year but I'd like to have a try at least. Due to getting distracted by things, mostly fishing, i've only just sorted out my raised beds. Got one 6'x 4' and one 4'x 4'. What soil mix should I fill them with and what should I be planting in them at this time of year? I have access to unlimited well rotted horse manure so would ideally like to use as much of that as possible to keep costs down. Any and all advice gratefully received Get composting the more the better , you want a good ratio of mixture in there , but carrots do not like fresh manure aparantly , the better the mix and the more you turn the quicker it rots , and you need to water it to , you can buy in top soil if need be ,you can get a ton for about £55 delivered , or if your buying by the bag , the best and finest top soil I've come across is from wickes there own brand , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie m 668 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 30/05/2017 at 19:18, terryd said: On 30/05/2017 at 18:44, Tyla said: Perfect, thank you. I got the beds in and levelled this evening so I'll go and dig up some of the muck mountain tomorrow. Should I put it in neat or mix any sand or anything into it? I would be tempted to throw a bag or two of compost in at least the top level as the manure maybe a bit chunky initially. Just to make it easier to sow small stuff if thats your plan. Even with the allotment I am finding it beneficial to start lots of stuff in modules after watching old charles dowding lol So once the plants are ready for planting does he split them or just whack them in the ground . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,423 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 06:25, Jamie m said: On 30/05/2017 at 19:18, terryd said: On 30/05/2017 at 18:44, Tyla said: Perfect, thank you. I got the beds in and levelled this evening so I'll go and dig up some of the muck mountain tomorrow. Should I put it in neat or mix any sand or anything into it? I would be tempted to throw a bag or two of compost in at least the top level as the manure maybe a bit chunky initially. Just to make it easier to sow small stuff if thats your plan. Even with the allotment I am finding it beneficial to start lots of stuff in modules after watching old charles dowding lol So once the plants are ready for planting does he split them or just whack them in the ground . whacks them in the ground and he a clip there some where of say 4 or 5 beetroot in a clump with no apparent loss of size and he just twists out what he wants. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie m 668 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 06:35, terryd said: On 31/05/2017 at 06:25, Jamie m said: On 30/05/2017 at 19:18, terryd said: On 30/05/2017 at 18:44, Tyla said: Perfect, thank you. I got the beds in and levelled this evening so I'll go and dig up some of the muck mountain tomorrow. Should I put it in neat or mix any sand or anything into it? I would be tempted to throw a bag or two of compost in at least the top level as the manure maybe a bit chunky initially. Just to make it easier to sow small stuff if thats your plan. Even with the allotment I am finding it beneficial to start lots of stuff in modules after watching old charles dowding lol So once the plants are ready for planting does he split them or just whack them in the ground . whacks them in the ground and he a clip there some where of say 4 or 5 beetroot in a clump with no apparent loss of size and he just twists out what he wants. This will be good as there's a mouse and rat problem at my allotment , I don't understand some folk , they all chuck slug poison about willy nilly , but they won't kill rats or mice , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyla 3,179 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 I had a look at the muck mountain and decided against it, it's under about 6 foot of nettles and one of the livery girls said she used a load last year and has been fighting the nettles it brought to her garden ever since. Shame really as it's the size of a small house and been rotting down for years. I'll probably have to buy by the bag as I don't think I'll need a whole tonne bag and there's nowhere to keep it at home, I'd have to keep it at the yard and move it by the bag anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 06:35, terryd said: On 31/05/2017 at 06:25, Jamie m said: On 30/05/2017 at 19:18, terryd said: On 30/05/2017 at 18:44, Tyla said: Perfect, thank you. I got the beds in and levelled this evening so I'll go and dig up some of the muck mountain tomorrow. Should I put it in neat or mix any sand or anything into it? I would be tempted to throw a bag or two of compost in at least the top level as the manure maybe a bit chunky initially. Just to make it easier to sow small stuff if thats your plan. Even with the allotment I am finding it beneficial to start lots of stuff in modules after watching old charles dowding lol So once the plants are ready for planting does he split them or just whack them in the ground . whacks them in the ground and he a clip there some where of say 4 or 5 beetroot in a clump with no apparent loss of size and he just twists out what he wants. TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
terryd 8,423 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 yes thats the one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jok 3,257 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 For what it's worth I'll add a comment. I get loads of spent hops and malted barley from our local brewer. As a soil conditioner it is fantastic. Setting up a couple of raised beds as described, I mixed my own compost with a bag of multi and hops. The compost admitadly was 2 or 3 years old but end result is very good. You can sow straight away with just about anything and bearing in mind we are just into June, the growing season is at it's best. You have 16 weeks or slightly more to create, cultivate, sow and grow any number of lovely vegetables. Personally, as some on here know, I set really early but only because of my business which holds me back a bit. Just by the way, for the last 2 weeks I've been feeding my family on new potatoes which are, to be honest, fantastic. Arran Pilot. You might want to put a few onion sets in which will be ready in October. All the usuals like salads and all brassicas have loads of time. Thing is , if you don't try, you'll never know. Get some stuff in and cross the fingers. Word of warning however, the cabbage white butterfly. This little bugger will give you nightmares if you let it. Cover if you can. Ants are currently a problem with peas so get some powder down. After that little tale of doom, good luck. Jok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie m 668 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 On 31/05/2017 at 14:29, Tiercel said: On 31/05/2017 at 06:35, terryd said: On 31/05/2017 at 06:25, Jamie m said: On 30/05/2017 at 19:18, terryd said: On 30/05/2017 at 18:44, Tyla said: Perfect, thank you. I got the beds in and levelled this evening so I'll go and dig up some of the muck mountain tomorrow. Should I put it in neat or mix any sand or anything into it? I would be tempted to throw a bag or two of compost in at least the top level as the manure maybe a bit chunky initially. Just to make it easier to sow small stuff if thats your plan. Even with the allotment I am finding it beneficial to start lots of stuff in modules after watching old charles dowding lol So once the plants are ready for planting does he split them or just whack them in the ground . whacks them in the ground and he a clip there some where of say 4 or 5 beetroot in a clump with no apparent loss of size and he just twists out what he wants. TC 4 moths for a pissing beetroot ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jok 3,257 Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 What a load of bollocks. That is definitely not the way to go. Modules are for gardeners who really don't know what it's about. For a start off, root crops such as carrot and parsnip, will split and curl. Horrible when you think you have a good crop. Can't deny that brassicas are a good way to go in modules but trust me on one thing, you will have more failures than success. Again harbinger of doom. Jok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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