Tiny 7 1,694 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Rest is important matey... If iam lamping say last night and run a few bits i anit going too bike him today for 6 mile instead he'll get a mooch over the feild too losen up and might be back out tonight or flushing in the morning, Sometimes work them 4/5 days on the trot a done nothing but give them half hour empty out time that afternoon before there next shift that night/day. There doing that much inbetween that they dont need biked or trotted by the car ect. And once a week always give a full day where they more or less never leave the house..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted February 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 She gets that when we are mooching the moors or the quarry. Walking, trotting, sprinting etc. This is in addition. Well she obviously isn't getting enough as in your own words she let you down ... Ease off the bike and mate and follow the good advice ... You've misunderstood me. The mooching over the moors and quarry and biking is new. As in, the last 2 weeks. I got the bike this week specifically to get her fitter. Up to the point where she let me down all I've done with her is road walk 3-4 mile and lamp twice a week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted February 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Rest is important matey... If iam lamping say last night and run a few bits i anit going too bike him today for 6 mile instead he'll get a mooch over the feild too losen up and might be back out tonight or flushing in the morning, Sometimes work them 4/5 days on the trot a done nothing but give them half hour empty out time that afternoon before there next shift that night/day. There doing that much inbetween that they dont need biked or trotted by the car ect. And once a week always give a full day where they more or less never leave the house..... Ok cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Ah right ... Well you have a few suggestions to be contemplating now ........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted February 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Ah right ... Well you have a few suggestions to be contemplating now ........ Yeh cheers. That Fartlek training sounds good. Will incorporate it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 She gets that when we are mooching the moors or the quarry. Walking, trotting, sprinting etc. This is in addition. Well she obviously isn't getting enough as in your own words she let you down ... Ease off the bike and mate and follow the good advice ... You've misunderstood me. The mooching over the moors and quarry and biking is new. As in, the last 2 weeks. I got the bike this week specifically to get her fitter. Up to the point where she let me down all I've done with her is road walk 3-4 mile and lamp twice a week. I'd rest her more, but get her out on the lamp more if at all possible? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,492 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 [quote name="gareth_daniel" post You've misunderstood me. The mooching over the moors and quarry and biking is new. As in, the last 2 weeks. I got the bike this week specifically to get her /quote] Long slow bike work is for strength endurance....... You want explosive speed/fitness...... Your never going to get a bike up to the speed a dog can run so your never going to be able to get a dog right out wide open on a bike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 [quote name="gareth_daniel" post You've misunderstood me. The mooching over the moors and quarry and biking is new. As in, the last 2 weeks. I got the bike this week specifically to get her /quote] Long slow bike work is for strength endurance....... You want explosive speed/fitness...... Your never going to get a bike up to the speed a dog can run so your never going to be able to get a dog right out wide open on a bike. quad bike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 How about a lure machine? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippet 99 2,613 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 How about a lure machine? i dont think that does them any good keep running that with no reward............ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bunnys 1,228 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 sensible lamping ,giving the animal more on a steady ratio. good snap rest . atb bunnys. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 How about a lure machine?i dont think that does them any good keep running that with no reward............ That's upto the owner to reward after a good session. You wouldn't use it every day either, just use it as an aid to help the dog get fit. Nothing beats actual work IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 I used a lure when I was into the greyhounds and I ALWAYS let the dog catch the lure ... If they believe they can catch it they will put that extra effort into catching it ... You just increase the distance to work them harder ... I'm luck hat I live in the middle of nowhere and my main road is a farm track ... I quad the dogs 3 or 4 times a week ... All different terrains hills flat and obviously they run whatever they put up ... I can work them hard and fast intermittently for a mile then give them an easy 7 mph for the next mile then sprint them then let them mooch etc ... Obviously not everybody has the luxury of being able to do this so you have to work with what you have got and think and work out a sensible regime for the dogs and start at a sensible level for the dog ... Tilly the pup gets 5 miles a day free walking and won't see the quad until she is 6 months of age ........ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mintstick999 485 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Looks a good pace to me, just keep her ticking along then 20 minutes in a mag box when you get home, you'll start to see a difference but i must agree the advise you have been given on here all sounds good to me, just don't over do it imo. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,492 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 I used a lure when I was into the greyhounds and I ALWAYS let the dog catch the lure ... If they believe they can catch it they will put that extra effort into catching it ... You just increase the distance to work them harder ... I'm luck hat I live in the middle of nowhere and my main road is a farm track ... I quad the dogs 3 or 4 times a week ... All different terrains hills flat and obviously they run whatever they put up ... I can work them hard and fast intermittently for a mile then give them an easy 7 mph for the next mile then sprint them then let them mooch etc ... Obviously not everybody has the luxury of being able to do this so you have to work with what you have got and think and work out a sensible regime for the dogs and start at a sensible level for the dog ... Tilly the pup gets 5 miles a day free walking and won't see the quad until she is 6 months of age ........ Interesting about catching the lure every time......i believe all dogs are made different mentally and so theres not a right and wrong way about doing it......but in my experience allowing a dog to catch the lure more than about once every 3 or 4 sessions leads to a notciceable loss in the intensity a dog puts in..........im a firm believer in that your not just conditioning the body your conditioning the mind as well.....maybe with running dogs its not to a peak but still you want a dog that when it comes to the crunch is 100 % concentrated and focused........allowing a dog to catch a lure maybe every 3 or 4 sessions ive always felt leaves a dog with a heightened desire to get it next time which in turn leads to a far more intense workout where the dogs not just going through the motions before he gets the prize that he knows is coming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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