Pups........

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

Since Woz likes mali temperament I think he'd be happier with that than with a collie cross.I've nothing against Hancock dogs either. I own one myself. This is her lamping catch two nights ago:-

When all's said and done Hancock dogs are collie crosses. Obviously very different from malinois.

[bunnys 1,228]

Iv got a collie x greyhound here whos parents both came from handcock. Now he was bred local to me by lads who dont keep shit never mind breed from it. I can say im well pleased with him and he has done everything iv asked him to do. And iv asked him to do the lot

 

Thats not to say i have any respect for handcock, i dont. I hate c**ts churning out pups for nothing but money. "Go n get a job you lazy scruffy b*****d" are my words to handcock if hes looking. BUT he DOES make the odd good one. I suppose when your churning out 100s a year some are bound to be good.

 

Anyway im pleased enough with my one iv put him over my bitch this year. the old cliashay breed lots and thy shall get a percentage a good uns , pigeon keepers canary keepers worked on this ethos for yrs . atb bunnys.

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

Have you a Hancock dog then Bunnys? I thought you had all german shepherd crosses.

[littlefish 586]

Since Woz likes mali temperament I think he'd be happier with that than with a collie cross.I've nothing against Hancock dogs either. I own one myself. This is her lamping catch two nights ago:-

When all's said and done Hancock dogs are collie crosses. Obviously very different from malinois.

 

What is the breeding behind this one?

[Polkey 70]

Well Im getting a Hancock, should be picking it up the start of April. A few reasons for this are 1, Im keen to have a collie cross and want a 3/4 grey 1/4 colliie.

2, Im the only person I know that hunts so have no contacts to see anyones dogs to make a decision about if I would want a pup if they bred any and I am there fore more confidant buying from someone who I know produces what I want and does the job which brings me on to 3, The posts and input I have read from lads on here who have them and are happy with them is good enough for me.The raw ingredients are there and surly its down to the effort you put in to produce the worker you want.

As far as puppy farmer goes, there is plenty of people out there and who knows even on here that make there living doing plenty worse than breeding dogs.

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

 

Since Woz likes mali temperament I think he'd be happier with that than with a collie cross.I've nothing against Hancock dogs either. I own one myself. This is her lamping catch two nights ago:-

When all's said and done Hancock dogs are collie crosses. Obviously very different from malinois.

 

What is the breeding behind this one?

She's off "johndog", a mix of different border collies and bearded collies and greyhounds. On paper she's 9/16ths greyhound and the rest mixed collie.

Edited February 8, 2013 by Maximus Ferret

[scottish hare hunter 2,345]

 

 

Since Woz likes mali temperament I think he'd be happier with that than with a collie cross.I've nothing against Hancock dogs either. I own one myself. This is her lamping catch two nights ago:-

When all's said and done Hancock dogs are collie crosses. Obviously very different from malinois.

 

What is the breeding behind this one?

She's off "johndog", a mix of different border collies and bearded collies and greyhounds. On paper she's 9/16ths greyhound and the rest mixed collie.

what age is she mate

 

[juckler123 707]

Chances are unless you know of rabbiting border collies and quality greyhounds most litters of f1s will be out of no working parents.

I didn't like hancocks set up either but bought a pup from chuck arrowsmiths rabbiting collie and a linden eland bred coursing greyhound she ran her heart out for five seasons never stalked at night and caught more out the beam than any other I've owned she'd pile through hedges in the dark seen a few first crosses from there some were real good rabbiters but some of the threequater breds were useless I'm sure I read he breeds them a different way now if I was going for another collie type I'd see what he had on offer but would prefer to have one from working parents.

Edited February 8, 2013 by juckler123

[Bosun11 537]

Couldn't agree with you more on this one Juckler, most F1's of any breeding come with none working parents. I'm not a Hancock fan myself but I have owned two that were decent enough for what they were and if I was after that type again I would see what he could offer. Though I would always go for a half off him...

One thing I will say, is make damn sure you tell Hancock exactly what you want from your dog.

I'd also agree with your views on 3/4 breds too, never seen one that i'd own.. Of any type!

[darbo 4,776]

Chances are unless you know of rabbiting border collies and quality greyhounds most litters of f1s will be out of no working parents.

I didn't like hancocks set up either but bought a pup from chuck arrowsmiths rabbiting collie and a linden eland bred coursing greyhound she ran her heart out for five seasons never stalked at night and caught more out the beam than any other I've owned she'd pile through hedges in the dark seen a few first crosses from there some were real good rabbiters but some of the threequater breds were useless I'm sure I read he breeds them a different way now if I was going for another collie type I'd see what he had on offer but would prefer to have one from working parents.

Was your bitch a litter sister of the dog he kept back for stud chuckles ? had a pup from chuckles back in 1987.

[juckler123 707]

Cheers Bosun i havent seen any threequater greyhound breed that id want to own either mate summat to think about Woz.

Yes she was litter sister to chuckles darbo here she is the merle.

 

Edited February 9, 2013 by juckler123

[darbo 4,776]

Cheers Bosun i havent seen any threequater greyhound breed that id want to own either mate summat to think about Woz.

Yes she was litter sister to chuckles darbo here she is the merle.

 

thanks for the pic. sounds like you had good memories of the bitch.

[juckler123 707]

Be good to hear a bit about the pup darbo.

She was as good an f1 as any other ive seen mate on fur and feather butchers were moaning about smashed rabbits that was why i went for a first cross she always carried back alive bless

 

Bosun thats a top bit of advice mate he definitely knows how they throw and what would suit.atb

Edited February 10, 2013 by juckler123

[Mixed Bag 603]

The man breeds out of failed injured and retired greyhound bitches back to his collie bred dogs that never leave their pens ... Neither parents will ever have worked and whilst that is true of a first cross collie greyhound at the very least the collie will be out doing its job day in day out and the greyhound will have been sourced correctly to have a good temperament and be sound with no re occurring injuries and hopefully will have one a few races .....

 

The pups only contact with people is when they are fed on the cheapest of fish meal based dry food or when they are mucked out once a week .....

 

The pups at 8 weeks of age will have had no mental stimulation and won't have been exposed to the sights sounds smells that a normally bred litter will encounter ... This has been proved many times to effect the dogs temperament in later life and thats why a lot of Hancock dogs are scatty and neurotic ........

 

There is no need to go to a commercial breeder of lurchers in this day and age when there are plenty of home bred lurchers out of proven working lurchers being bred up and down the country .......

 

To be honest anybody with half a clue about dogs would turn on their heels and head out the door once they see how the pups are being reared ........

brilliant post mate anyone who goes there for a dog in this day and age needs their head looked at

[darbo 4,776]

Be good to hear a bit about the pup darbo.

She was as good an f1 as any other ive seen mate on fur and feather butchers were moaning about smashed rabbits that was why i went for a first cross she always carried back alive bless

 

Bosun thats a top bit of advice mate he definitely knows how they throw and what would suit.atb

The dog i had out of chuckles in 87. only made 24 . the dog showed a lot of potential was doing well on rabbits day and night and started to knock over hares daytime. had a great nose on him and was a belting retriever. cant say he was tested or how good or bad he would have become. he died just before reaching 2 years of age. real bad quality photo.