worker to worker or not

[mackay 3,346]

Well perhaps a slight touch of sarcasm but how many people do you know that have went through umpteen dogs and never owned a decent one and its never down to them.

[swanseajack 227]

Well perhaps a slight touch of sarcasm but how many people do you know that have went through umpteen dogs and never owned a decent one and its never down to them.

thank feck for that, I thought you were being serious... and yes, you're very right on that statement...

[Guest SHOT]

sorry mate, that wasn't the question, not getting into bull/x versus collie/x, I was on about 1st cross as opposed to worker to worker...

me nether i misread the question.

[mackay 3,346]

Well perhaps a slight touch of sarcasm but how many people do you know that have went through umpteen dogs and never owned a decent one and its never down to them.

thank feck for that, I thought you were being serious... and yes, you're very right on that statement...

Cheers mate

[brother fox 1]

my take on it... worker to worker, line bred, cull hard, then after a few generations hopefully you will have a line that does the business............. in a perfect world... (if it were as easy as that then we'd be breeding racing greyhounds and racehorses)

 

I wouldn't buy a pup if it were from two first crosses just because they worked..... all sorts of reasons why...

 

I'd have a bash at 1st cross, hybrid vigour and all that... bull, collie, terrier, whatever

With swanseajack on this statement. It,s all about keeping it real and pure.

[lurcherman 28]

worker to worker is a defo yes for me Edited July 17, 2007 by lurcherman

[TimJ 0]

Well perhaps a slight touch of sarcasm but how many people do you know that have went through umpteen dogs and never owned a decent one and its never down to them.

 

 

I would say the opposite seems more true. I've rarely read posts in the lurcher section that one didn't refer to their lurchers as " keen as mustard"

Seems not matter what two you put together most will say their's are excellent on the lamp and catch two out of three. Will someone get real on how many of these lurchers or longdogs actually make the grade. You guys are getting me to believe that 100 % or nearly 100% make the grade.

[Guest ceredigion bull cross]

well there you go ceredigion bull cross

 

i guess its worker to worker

 

ok BOB , let's get something straight from the off , i own 1 hancocks lurcher , and 3 bull x's ..........1 bull x is working and has been since he was 6 months old , his daughter is 11 months old and has started on rabbit's the third bull x is a son from the first bull x mentioned above he is only a few weeks old and is a half brother to the 11 month old mentioned above i have used the same stud dog on 2 different bitches .....if you have followed up to now you will understand a pattern for a line breeding to take place in the future which will be half brother to half sister ....... this i would consider to be a serious bit of planning on my part as i have been carefull in selecting the right bitches for my dog ....... that is so we get WORKER to WORKER .......... why then have i got a hancocks bred lurcher aswell ??? simple answer . i wanted a first cross collie/grey with no other added bits of mutt in it ..... why ask if people would buy a pup from untested parents ? again simple answer ....if i ever feel the need to breed a litter out of my hancocks bitch i won't be putting them on here for sale !!!! and before any puppy peddling bullshit starts , i'll put you all straight now ....I AM NO PUPPY PEDDLAR ....... to be honest and blunt , when the line breeding above takes place there are a few selected mates having pups only edited to add i did not vote

[thurso jack 3]

well there you go ceredigion bull cross

 

i guess its worker to worker

 

ok BOB , let's get something straight from the off , i own 1 hancocks lurcher , and 3 bull x's ..........1 bull x is working and has been since he was 6 months old , his daughter is 11 months old and has started on rabbit's the third bull x is a son from the first bull x mentioned above he is only a few weeks old and is a half brother to the 11 month old mentioned above i have used the same stud dog on 2 different bitches .....if you have followed up to now you will understand a pattern for a line breeding to take place in the future which will be half brother to half sister ....... this i would consider to be a serious bit of planning on my part as i have been carefull in selecting the right bitches for my dog ....... that is so we get WORKER to WORKER .......... why then have i got a hancocks bred lurcher aswell ??? simple answer . i wanted a first cross collie/grey with no other added bits of mutt in it ..... why ask if people would buy a pup from untested parents ? again simple answer ....if i ever feel the need to breed a litter out of my hancocks bitch i won't be putting them on here for sale !!!! and before any puppy peddling bullshit starts , i'll put you all straight now ....I AM NO PUPPY PEDDLAR ....... to be honest and blunt , when the line breeding above takes place there are a few selected mates having pups only edited to add i did not vote

 

puppy peddlar

[smallmouth 1]

.......... why then have i got a hancocks bred lurcher aswell ??? simple answer . i wanted a first cross collie/grey with no other added bits of mutt in it ..... why ask if people would buy a pup from untested parents ? again simple answer ....if i ever feel the need to breed a litter out of my hancocks bitch i won't be putting them on here for sale !!!! ......

 

I think you're missing the point here.

 

As crossbreeds lurchers have to start somewhere, and in the case of collie crosses, bull crosses etc, that somewhere is usually a cross between 2 parents not specifically designed for a lurchers job, (though it'd might be better if they'd at least had a go). So aren't all first crosses are a risk, unless it's a repeat mating and ALL the previous litter made the grade?

 

Surely if you did decide to breed off your first cross Hancock bitch it would be because you were pleased with her long term performance and thought it worthwhile to continue down that line? If so, then your Hancock bitch would be by then classed as a tested worker, and you'd've taken a risk to prove that.

 

Fair enough, some first crosses are riskier than others! I took a similar risk to yours, thinking that one day I might put a whippet over my Border Collie/Greyhound bitch and take it from there. My risk certainly hasn't paid off, and therefore my bitch won't ever be bred from.

[Guest waldorf]

well there you go ceredigion bull cross

 

i guess its worker to worker

 

ok BOB , let's get something straight from the off , i own 1 hancocks lurcher , and 3 bull x's ..........1 bull x is working and has been since he was 6 months old , his daughter is 11 months old and has started on rabbit's the third bull x is a son from the first bull x mentioned above he is only a few weeks old and is a half brother to the 11 month old mentioned above i have used the same stud dog on 2 different bitches .....if you have followed up to now you will understand a pattern for a line breeding to take place in the future which will be half brother to half sister ....... this i would consider to be a serious bit of planning on my part as i have been carefull in selecting the right bitches for my dog ....... that is so we get WORKER to WORKER .......... why then have i got a hancocks bred lurcher aswell ??? simple answer . i wanted a first cross collie/grey with no other added bits of mutt in it ..... why ask if people would buy a pup from untested parents ? again simple answer ....if i ever feel the need to breed a litter out of my hancocks bitch i won't be putting them on here for sale !!!! and before any puppy peddling bullshit starts , i'll put you all straight now ....I AM NO PUPPY PEDDLAR ....... to be honest and blunt , when the line breeding above takes place there are a few selected mates having pups only edited to add i did not vote

 

who bred your old dog ceredigion bull cross?

[Guest ceredigion bull cross]

good point smallmouth , i am more interested in my bull x than the hancocks . simply because i would prefer to breed my own line insted of carrying a line off a famous breed line as hancock ......if you see what i mean ?

[Guest ceredigion bull cross]

WAldorf ..... in reply to your question .......ginger french , out of a dog called terminator

[Guest ceredigion bull cross]

well there you go ceredigion bull cross

 

i guess its worker to worker

 

ok BOB , let's get something straight from the off , i own 1 hancocks lurcher , and 3 bull x's ..........1 bull x is working and has been since he was 6 months old , his daughter is 11 months old and has started on rabbit's the third bull x is a son from the first bull x mentioned above he is only a few weeks old and is a half brother to the 11 month old mentioned above i have used the same stud dog on 2 different bitches .....if you have followed up to now you will understand a pattern for a line breeding to take place in the future which will be half brother to half sister ....... this i would consider to be a serious bit of planning on my part as i have been carefull in selecting the right bitches for my dog ....... that is so we get WORKER to WORKER .......... why then have i got a hancocks bred lurcher aswell ??? simple answer . i wanted a first cross collie/grey with no other added bits of mutt in it ..... why ask if people would buy a pup from untested parents ? again simple answer ....if i ever feel the need to breed a litter out of my hancocks bitch i won't be putting them on here for sale !!!! and before any puppy peddling bullshit starts , i'll put you all straight now ....I AM NO PUPPY PEDDLAR ....... to be honest and blunt , when the line breeding above takes place there are a few selected mates having pups only edited to add i did not vote

 

puppy peddlar

 

 

NUMPTY

[smallmouth 1]

i would prefer to breed my own line insted of carrying a line off a famous breed line as hancock ......if you see what i mean ?

 

Absolutely..........