Dead Kits

[Hob&Jill 258]

I had to put 2 of my litter down today, exacty the same symtoms as the fezz's kits I just hope the rest of my litter will be fine

 

Edit> Oh, and in the cases of mums killing kits, do you think the thunder/lightning/hail could have anything to do with it? Could scare the mum?

Edited July 15, 2007 by Hob&Jill

[woodchip 2]

how old were the kits? also the part of leaving a rabbit in with the mum and other adult may of caused some sort of stir over the food causing the mum to kill the kits or even the other jill

 

 

cant see that dougie mine get a bunnie every other day and ive had no problems

woodchip, the way in which these have been killed at 12 weeks can indicate that something may of happend between the 2 jills in order for this to happen.The fact food was in there at the time could of been part of the reason , this is no fault of anyone but can cause territorial fights when mother and babies are around others.ive seen this happen with other animals and have known it to happen over food and seen it happen over food, it doesnt take much to start them off but they only need to feel insecure and they will indeed kill the young but this is just one scenario....anything could of happend

 

 

WELL DOUGIE I THINK YOUR TALKING BOLLOXS...

[ASME IX 1]

its just a thought guys but does anyone knw if this happends to polecats in the wild?

 

regards

 

asme9

[Guest The Big Fish]

WELL DOUGIE I THINK YOUR TALKING BOLLOXS...

 

How rude!

 

 

 

Ive never heard of mothers killing 12 week old kits, they would have to be litterally starving to death for this to happen. My kits at 12 weeks old are nearly as big or bigger than their mother

 

Sounds to me like there was some shite rotten food hidden away that went un-noticed and theyve picked up a touch of botulism or some similar nasty.

 

Or a genetic weirdling that culled them back, but usualy if thats the case they are still born or the mother kills them within a day or so of birth.

[mooster 1]

Sorry to hear this.

An experienced ferret rescuer near me once told me that he has noticed mothers and sisters often kill their young when there is high aptmospheric pressure/thunderstorms.

Like someone has said ..nature is cruel and ferret keepers are at the thin end of the wedge.

I'm learning thet there are no easy answers in ferret keeping.

All the best to those who have lost kits.

Mooster.(learning the hard way).

[smudgersmith 2]

how old were the kits? also the part of leaving a rabbit in with the mum and other adult may of caused some sort of stir over the food causing the mum to kill the kits or even the other jill

 

 

cant see that dougie mine get a bunnie every other day and ive had no problems

woodchip, the way in which these have been killed at 12 weeks can indicate that something may of happend between the 2 jills in order for this to happen.The fact food was in there at the time could of been part of the reason , this is no fault of anyone but can cause territorial fights when mother and babies are around others.ive seen this happen with other animals and have known it to happen over food and seen it happen over food, it doesnt take much to start them off but they only need to feel insecure and they will indeed kill the young but this is just one scenario....anything could of happend

 

I have always put in a rabbit at night even when the kits were 5-6 weeks, I'm in favour of a bunny diet., so it was not a case of a something new, but I see where you coming from.

 

 

Maybe this is natures way. It's still a bloody kick in the teeth.

[dougie_s410k 1]

how old were the kits? also the part of leaving a rabbit in with the mum and other adult may of caused some sort of stir over the food causing the mum to kill the kits or even the other jill

 

 

cant see that dougie mine get a bunnie every other day and ive had no problems

woodchip, the way in which these have been killed at 12 weeks can indicate that something may of happend between the 2 jills in order for this to happen.The fact food was in there at the time could of been part of the reason , this is no fault of anyone but can cause territorial fights when mother and babies are around others.ive seen this happen with other animals and have known it to happen over food and seen it happen over food, it doesnt take much to start them off but they only need to feel insecure and they will indeed kill the young but this is just one scenario....anything could of happend

 

I have always put in a rabbit at night even when the kits were 5-6 weeks, I'm in favour of a bunny diet., so it was not a case of a something new, but I see where you coming from.

 

 

Maybe this is natures way. It's still a bloody kick in the teeth.

im glad you are understanding mate,woodchip on the otherhand is not its not the fact that the rabbit is the cause its the fact that something could of triggered something else off in turn, there are a million reasons but we will never know the exact answer.

[Hob&Jill 258]

I'm learning thet there are no easy answers in ferret keeping.

Mooster.(learning the hard way).

Your not wrong, there are no easy answers

 

I'm learning the hard way too, but I cant help but think its the best way to learn?

 

H&J

[Kay 3,709]

Does anyone know for sure if these kits have actually been culled, ie marks on the bodys or have they just died mysteriously, have people used wood treatments on cages etc, or used flea treatments, if its a medical cause the only way to confirm things is for several kits to have post mortoms , its not going to hurt to collate as much info as possible & its good ferret welfare & will help future ferret keepers & the people on here in the future, i have no objection to contributing to a post mortom

 

So what do others think

[micky 3,325]

Found this morning that my litter of sandy kits (4) were dead and partially eaten by my Jill mum.

WHAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED.

 

The Jill and her sister were the only adults in the court.

 

Left them last night with a gutted rabbit, all seemed fine, this is the Jills second litter.

 

F%%cking Gutted, what could I have done wrong. This has never happened before sorry really pissed.

.it happend ,because you dont know how to look after ferrets.

[Hob&Jill 258]

What would you have done Micky?

[micky 3,325]

What would you have done Micky?

not what he did.

[doddsy1970 9]

What would you have done Micky?

not what he did.

 

 

You must be one of those Internet hunter pricks, who knows all but knows nothing How can you be so judgemental without knowing the facts? What makes you such an expert? I have read alot of smudgers posts and regard him as a knowledgeable ferreter who only has the welfare of his ferrets at heart!!! And you have the nerve to come on here and slag him off.... How f*****g dare you!! It's knobs like you with remarks like that which create problems for all of the hunting fraternity. I suggest you piss off and go and stick on your Watch With Mother DVD!!!!!!!!!!

 

P.S. I apologise if my rant has offended any one other than Prickey

[micky 3,325]

What would you have done Micky?

not what he did.

 

 

You must be one of those Internet hunter pricks, who knows all but knows nothing How can you be so judgemental without knowing the facts? What makes you such an expert? I have read alot of smudgers posts and regard him as a knowledgeable ferreter who only has the welfare of his ferrets at heart!!! And you have the nerve to come on here and slag him off.... How f*****g dare you!! It's knobs like you with remarks like that which create problems for all of the hunting fraternity. I suggest you piss off and go and stick on your Watch With Mother DVD!!!!!!!!!!

 

P.S. I apologise if my rant has offended any one other than Prickey

i have read the facts ,and you,must have too,so ,that makes two of you who know f**k all about ferrets, dopey

[doddsy1970 9]

What would you have done Micky?

not what he did.

 

 

You must be one of those Internet hunter pricks, who knows all but knows nothing How can you be so judgemental without knowing the facts? What makes you such an expert? I have read alot of smudgers posts and regard him as a knowledgeable ferreter who only has the welfare of his ferrets at heart!!! And you have the nerve to come on here and slag him off.... How f*****g dare you!! It's knobs like you with remarks like that which create problems for all of the hunting fraternity. I suggest you piss off and go and stick on your Watch With Mother DVD!!!!!!!!!!

 

P.S. I apologise if my rant has offended any one other than Prickey

i have read the facts ,and you,must have too,so ,that makes two of you who know f**k all about ferrets, dopey

 

So you have read the facts have you????? Lets go over them so your pea brained know it all, know nothing head can understand.... The guy fed his ferrets fresh rabbit at night (this is because it is cooler and so the meat wont go off or get fly blown so quick) to his healthy jills and 12 week old kits and in the morning he went to remove the carcass and found the kits dead. Where on earth can you deduct that this guy doent know how to look after his ferrets???? I dont know if you have a crystal ball or just talk crystal bollocks