Permission

[Scallywag 78]

I've noticed people mentioning 'common land' for hunting for hunting on when you don't have permission anywhere.....I was under the impression that every square inch of land in Engalnd and Wales (don't know about Scotland) was owned by someone and that you had to have permission to hunt on it. Have I got this wrong? Apologies if this is a stupid question.

[Guest DALE_2]

any land is * open* permisson , i dont have an answer to your question , but its so hard to get permisson these days , people who have it have most likely took it from someone they knew and went on with , or have had it for years , for instance we went out on friday at 9am , we drove all way along the A66 motorway in the middle of no where which is bout 2 hours away from were we live , we was out all day till around 6pm , and came home with 1 positive , which was come back when the feilds are short , which is all we wanted anyway , a few took phone numbers and said they will contact us , and the occaisonly * F word* appereard . never mind ,

 

Dale

[Scallywag 78]

Having looked at this again I think this might be one of those really daft newby questions

I suppose what I'm trying to check out is, is there any true common land in England or Wales now, or is it all owned by someone who has to give me permission if I want to go and intentionally hunt on it?

[Simoman 110]

a few took phone numbers and said they will contact us , and the occaisonly * F word* appereard

 

You'll never get permission speaking to landowners like that Scallywag, does common land come under local authority ownership?

[Scallywag 78]

Simoman, I think you're right, in which case permission's pretty unlikely to say the least

Sometimes I feel like moving!

[skycat 6,174]

ALL land is owned by someone: part the common land round my way is owned by a big Angling Club, though very few members of the public would know that (if it weren't for the bloody great signs saying so! LOL) Other so called common land can be owned by a nearby town, or its council, some can be held in socage (originally a feudal type of tenure) to the crown for example.

So even if you think no one owns a piece of land you can be sure that there is an owner somewhere: a town council, the crown or other organisations.

 

I lost valuable permission when a local council tenant on whose land I hunted got a nasty letter from the council. In theory he should have been allowed to use any legal methods to control his foxes, but the council were anti dogs, and he was worried they could have evicted him if he continued to allow dogs on this land for that purpose. This was many years before the ban incidently.

 

We've also gained permission on council land (ferreting a cemetary!) so it depends a lot on the individual council or owners.

Edited July 15, 2007 by skycat

[Guest DALE_2]

a few took phone numbers and said they will contact us , and the occaisonly * F word* appereard

 

You'll never get permission speaking to landowners like that Scallywag, does common land come under local authority ownership?

 

you must have misunderstod , we got he F word , we never gave it , and the farmers took our numbers .

 

Dale

[Scallywag 78]

ALL land is owned by someone: part the common land round my way is owned by a big Angling Club, though very few members of the public would know that (if it weren't for the bloody great signs saying so! LOL) Other so called common land can be owned by a nearby town, or its council, some can be held in socage (originally a feudal type of tenure) to the crown for example.

So even if you think no one owns a piece of land you can be sure that there is an owner somewhere: a town council, the crown or other organisations.

 

That's what I thought, just wanted to check! Thanks. Sometimes I can hardly stand the lack of freedom

I'm inexperienced and live in the middle of sheep farming land with not a foot of arable anywhere. Maybe I could get permission on the allotments or something

[Simoman 110]

I understood Dale, just joking

[juckler123 707]

Interesting topic scallywag ive been using parish owned land for years where the villagers have a right to graze stock mainly on floodplanes been going to these places for well over thirty five years now and never had any bother even when theres been other folk about.

[Scallywag 78]

That's interesting juckler, I wonder if that's the sort of thing I've heard about then. I don't want to work my dogs as such - apart from anything, my dogs are rescues and it's a condition not to work them. But I do like to go out and try for one for the pot, one for the dogs' breakfast, without running into trouble....

[Giro 2,648]

any land is * open* permisson , i dont have an answer to your question , but its so hard to get permisson these days , people who have it have most likely took it from someone they knew and went on with , or have had it for years , for instance we went out on friday at 9am , we drove all way along the A66 motorway in the middle of no where which is bout 2 hours away from were we live , we was out all day till around 6pm , and came home with 1 positive , which was come back when the feilds are short , which is all we wanted anyway , a few took phone numbers and said they will contact us , and the occaisonly * F word* appereard . never mind ,

 

Dale

 

 

Na permission is there you just have to ask last year i had nowt now i have 9 farmers 2 are on game easte..

 

you just have to do it over and over you can go out a couple of times and say there no permission go loads and loads go back and ask the same farmer so your keen.. 3 bits of my best permission are nearly a hour away but they are places where the numbers are endless you coud ferret all day and have to stop as the nights drawing in..

 

keep asking its a downer when nowbodys in the farmers or they say no dont jack keep trying...

 

you will get the jack pot one day i got one feild doen a good job then the guy turned round and said he owned all the surrounding fields and i could go where i like..

Edited July 15, 2007 by Giro

[Guest WILF]

I have picked up 3000 acres this summer with a potential extra 4000 and the offer of an extra 1000..........add this to the 800 , 600 and 200 that I have adds up to one smug fecker.........all I did was ask and am able to string a sentence together without grunting at folk...........just keep at it

[snoopdog 1,256]

IF YOU WANT SOME PERMISSION THERES ONLY ONE WAY AND THAT IS TO GET OFF YOUR ARSE AND AND GET SOME KNOCKING DONE ...ME AND RUNNING DOG OFF THIS SITE WENT OUT AT 930AM THIS MORNING AND DROVE ABOUT 40 MILES AWAY FROM US TO SOME PLACES ROUND SOUTHPORT FOR THE LARGER FEILDS FOR SOME PERMISSION ON LARGER RABBITS :clapping: I KNOCKED ON 4 FARMS TODAY AND GOT PERMISSION ON THREE AND ONE IS A MAYBE ...THEY WERNT BIG FARMS BUT ALTOGETHER WE GOT ABOUT FIFTY ACRES OF CROP AND GROWING LAND TO WORK THIS SEASON THE LAST FARM WAS THE BIGGEST AND I ONLY GOT CHANCE TO TALK TO HIS WIFE AS HE WAS BUSY IN THE FEILDS REAPING HIS SPUDS BUT I TALKED TO HER FOR ABOUT FIFTEEN MINTUIES AND ITS LOOKING PETTY GOOD FOR THAT ONE TOO....I PUT A SHIRT ON AND MADE MYSELF LOOK HALF DECENT AND FIRST OF ALL I ASKED FOR FERTTETING WHICH I GOT THEN AFTER TALKING TO THEM FOR A WHILE THEY ALSO GIVE ME PERMISSIOM WITH THE DOGS ASWELL I CHATTED ABOUT THE WEATHER AND HOW BAD ITS BEEN FOR GROWING ECT ECT ECT THESE THREE SMALL FARMS COULD VERY WELL LEAD ONTO MORE FARMS IF YOU TREAT THEM WITH RESPECT IVE GOT THERE NUMBERS AND SAID I WILL CALL THEM EITHER THE NIGHT BEFORE I GO ON THERE LAND OR IN THE MORNING BEFORE I SET OFF THEY DIDNT ASK ME TO I JUST OFFERED WHICH THEY LIKED ITS ALL ABOUT LOOKING HALF DECENT AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND BEING POLITE AND RESPECTFULL ......ALL I NEED NOW IS A DOG THAT CAN CATCH EM ALL THE BEST SNOOP

 

PS I DONT HAVE FERRETS SO IF THERES SOMBODY WHO WORKS ALONE AND WANTS TO COME WITH US AND WORK THE HOLES WHILE WE GO OF IN SEARCH OF THE OTHER RABBITS WITH THE DOGS PM ME YOU WILL NEED TO BE RESPONSABLE AND I STATE AGAIN WORK ON YOUR OWN ....

[Guest WILF]

Snoopdog