lurcher pups

[Guest ceredigion bull cross]

allright folks , post deleted

[Simoman 110]

Personally, I would never buy a pup from untested parents whether it was a terrier, lurcher, gundog, sheepdog etc etc. Its hard enough getting a good 'un without making life harder.

Edited July 14, 2007 by Simoman

[thurso jack 3]

in a word "NO"

[Guest ceredigion bull cross]

in a word "NO"

 

a man of few words

[leec 132]

i wuld not breed of an untried bitch but look at alot of first cross stock be it collie,bull,wippet or wat ever over a greyhound probably % of these are untested dogs

[Guest bob]

lmfao

 

this has got to be good

 

[heart of wales 19]

Was given a cocker spaniel once from show stock never seen or done anything,spent a lot of time with him he turned out to be a demon worker.However would never buy or breed anything that was not out of working stock.When going down that long road of dog ownership you,take a risk of a dog not working even out of the best x the best however I have found you increase your chances greatly by going worker to worker,it also gives you the opportunity to see what traits your pup might end up with good or bad.

[Guest ceredigion bull cross]

good response

[Guest Bunny Basher]

good response on this one upto now , how about if say a man in my case owning a hancocks bitch , got that bitch working rabbit , hare and fox 100% and then decided to breed a litter off her , what would the response be ........ in other words would you buy a pup from the litter ?

 

 

I wonder if the very same people who WOULD NOT buy a puppy off Hancock because they are bred off non workers would buy one of these off a working Hancock bred Good question CBC

[skycat 6,173]

I bred from both my Hancock bitches: one litter was average like the mother (it was a long long time ago and my excuse is I didn't know any better at the time! LOL) From the excellent Beardie cross I bred 2 litters to proven lurcher x lurcher dogs of mixed breeding: the pups were every bit as good as their mother and even better at some things: but the sires did come from very good old working lines.

[Guest ceredigion bull cross]

good response on this one upto now , how about if say a man in my case owning a hancocks bitch , got that bitch working rabbit , hare and fox 100% and then decided to breed a litter off her , what would the response be ........ in other words would you buy a pup from the litter ?

 

 

I wonder if the very same people who WOULD NOT buy a puppy off Hancock because they are bred off non workers would buy one of these off a working Hancock bred Good question CBC

that is exactly the kind of response i was waiting for , now all we need is some straight forward honest answers

[Garn 0]

With regards first cross lurcher pups, I personally wouldn't be too bothered if the parents weren't working (although it would help) providing the working blood i.e. coursing greyhound, working collie, gamebred bull, is directly there. Saying that, once the mix starts going lurcher to lurcher, there's less probability on what you're going get height/ physique wise, hence the working blood (baseline) of the lurcher x lurcher, becomes more important. I'm a collie cross man and other blokes I know are either collie x or bull x. We all know the pros and cons of our dogs and chose what dog's best for us. Saying that, the ability to train your dog does come into the equation as does the level of obdience required. One bloke I know has a greyhound/ bull X greyhound/bull/ whippet. The dog is a demon hunter, acceptably obedient , infact a dog of note, but its 19inch statuture puts it at an obvious handicap. Where's as with a first cross you are more or less guaranteed on what you're getting physique wise. The ability to train a dog and adopt your training methods to get the best out of your dog is always a bonus, somewhere where an awful lot of people fall.

[inan 841]

allright folks , let's see if we can do this without arguing about my dog better than yours nonsense ????? i have just read to many pages to mention about "hancocks lurchers" and was just wandering how many people have taken on a pup from untested parents , would you feel self confident enough to train such a pup knowing it is from untested parents ? personally i have a blue merle cross from hancocks aged 8 months that i plan to start in september i also have a 5/8 grey 3/8 bull that i bred last year she is 11 months old , i have given both these bitches the same basic training and the same day time mooching opportunities on a regular basis , up to now i can see more prey drive in the bull x " i forgot to state that the bull x is from tryed and proven lines" .....having said that the bull x is 3 months older than the hancock ....... i look forward to reading your replies

Some good replies on here ,but even mating two top class workers guarantees nothing,in the coursing game some outstanding dogs have thrown nothing special at stud,even when mated to good bitches,all you can say is you are more likely to produce a worker if it is bred from proven parents.Inan.

[ASME IX 1]

when ever i hear this kind of quiestion i say to my self....if two people who both had brown hair,and was to have a baby with each other...could it be set in stone that the offspring would NOT be firey little red heads with loads of freckles and pale skin:

Edited July 14, 2007 by ASME IX

[Guest ceredigion bull cross]

With regards first cross lurcher pups, I personally wouldn't be too bothered if the parents weren't working (although it would help) providing the working blood i.e. coursing greyhound, working collie, gamebred bull, is directly there. Saying that, once the mix starts going lurcher to lurcher, there's less probability on what you're going get height/ physique wise, hence the working blood (baseline) of the lurcher x lurcher, becomes more important. I'm a collie cross man and other blokes I know are either collie x or bull x. We all know the pros and cons of our dogs and chose what dog's best for us. Saying that, the ability to train your dog does come into the equation as does the level of obdience required. One bloke I know has a greyhound/ bull X greyhound/bull/ whippet. The dog is a demon hunter, acceptably obedient , infact a dog of note, but its 19inch statuture puts it at an obvious handicap. Where's as with a first cross you are more or less guaranteed on what you're getting physique wise. The ability to train a dog and adopt your training methods to get the best out of your dog is always a bonus, somewhere where an awful lot of people fall.

 

nice one GARN a true response well worth reading , all the best and happy hunting