pappy90 0 Posted January 26, 2013 Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 What's the best zero range for a 177?? Quote Link to post
pappy90 0 Posted January 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 Thanks . Also if davyt63 is reading this this is what i pm you have you got a milldot chart you use so i can get to grip with thing's? And also where do you put your data? is it hawk chair gun pro? thanks Quote Link to post
Fieldsports 155 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 What's the best zero range for a 177?? It all depends on the range your targets will be at ! for example...if you are Rabbit shooting and the land in question has a "spooky" rabbit population that run off at 45 yards ( and that’s the closest you can get to them before they run off ) then you will be shooting at 45 yards so zero for the range you will be shooting at. If you are shooting rabbits on a place that has had little disturbance and the rabbits sit nice and do not see you as a threat until you get in the 30 yard limit then zero at 30 yards as this is the range your quarry will be at when you pull the trigger. I am not contradicting others but as a rule of thumb with a .177 I would say if you do not know what range you will be shooting rabbits at and just want to zero for all round targets I would say 40 yards but then begin to understand what the mil dots are for on your scope and how to use them effectively . Thanks Steve Quote Link to post
ArchieHood 3,692 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 So.............find rabbit.....measure distance to said rabbit.........zero to said distance..........shoot rabbit........ ......or....... .......as Robwelsh says......zero at 35yds............practice shooting........estimate distances.......use mildots.......shoot loads of rabbits..... Quote Link to post
Fieldsports 155 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 So.............find rabbit.....measure distance to said rabbit.........zero to said distance..........shoot rabbit........ ......or....... .......as Robwelsh says......zero at 35yds............practice shooting........estimate distances.......use mildots.......shoot loads of rabbits..... Just my opinion mate ! I think 40 is a good all-round distance to zero a .177 for the job I do. But I can't see the point of zeroing a scope in to 35 yards if 90% of targets are 40 yards Mildots are good and there for a reason but eliminate the use of them by the laws of average if possible. Thanks Steve Quote Link to post
ArchieHood 3,692 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 So.............find rabbit.....measure distance to said rabbit.........zero to said distance..........shoot rabbit........ ......or....... .......as Robwelsh says......zero at 35yds............practice shooting........estimate distances.......use mildots.......shoot loads of rabbits..... Just my opinion mate ! I think 40 is a good all-round distance to zero a .177 for the job I do. But I can't see the point of zeroing a scope in to 35 yards if 90% of targets are 40 yards Mildots are good and there for a reason but eliminate the use of them by the laws of average if possible. Thanks Steve If you zero at 35 yds then any rabbit that is between 10 and 40 yards is still going to drop if hit in the kill zone on your zero.I have yet to find a permission where rabbits are at a definitive distance. 1 Quote Link to post
Fieldsports 155 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 So.............find rabbit.....measure distance to said rabbit.........zero to said distance..........shoot rabbit........ ......or....... .......as Robwelsh says......zero at 35yds............practice shooting........estimate distances.......use mildots.......shoot loads of rabbits..... Just my opinion mate ! I think 40 is a good all-round distance to zero a .177 for the job I do. But I can't see the point of zeroing a scope in to 35 yards if 90% of targets are 40 yards Mildots are good and there for a reason but eliminate the use of them by the laws of average if possible. Thanks Steve If you zero at 35 yds then any rabbit that is between 10 and 40 yards is still going to drop if hit in the kill zone on your zero.I have yet to find a permission where rabbits are at a definitive distance. I agree with that Archie ..I have done 100's of farms and yes no rabbits are at a set distance, that would be silly to say they are or could ever be mate. Personally I like to zero at 40 with an air rifle in .177 as the majority of my places are holding targets at 40 - 50 yards I only have a couple of places that Rabbits are at closer range before they leave like greyhounds at the 30 - 35 yard range and like you say mildots works fine. I wish I could say most of my rabbit shooting was at closer range than 40y but in reality mine is not. I tend to work with them farmers that say ( your the only one on here ) and when I drive over the horizon there is another group of people walking towards me. LOL....And they wonder why no bugger can get near the rabbits...LOL Some farmers believe the more people they let on to kill rabbits the more rabbits will be killed but unfortunately that is exactly the opposite effect it has. Hence pushing the shooters in to shooting at longer ranges. Anyway that's just my scenario and why I need to zero at that little bit further. But each to their own and what ever works best for them I suppose. Thanks Steve Quote Link to post
ArchieHood 3,692 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 So.............find rabbit.....measure distance to said rabbit.........zero to said distance..........shoot rabbit........ ......or....... .......as Robwelsh says......zero at 35yds............practice shooting........estimate distances.......use mildots.......shoot loads of rabbits..... Just my opinion mate ! I think 40 is a good all-round distance to zero a .177 for the job I do. But I can't see the point of zeroing a scope in to 35 yards if 90% of targets are 40 yards Mildots are good and there for a reason but eliminate the use of them by the laws of average if possible. Thanks Steve If you zero at 35 yds then any rabbit that is between 10 and 40 yards is still going to drop if hit in the kill zone on your zero.I have yet to find a permission where rabbits are at a definitive distance. I agree with that Archie ..I have done 100's of farms and yes no rabbits are at a set distance, that would be silly to say they are or could ever be mate. Personally I like to zero at 40 with an air rifle in .177 as the majority of my places are holding targets at 40 - 50 yards I only have a couple of places that Rabbits are at closer range before they leave like greyhounds at the 30 - 35 yard range and like you say mildots works fine. I wish I could say most of my rabbit shooting was at closer range than 40y but in reality mine is not. I tend to work with them farmers that say ( your the only one on here ) and when I drive over the horizon there is another group of people walking towards me. LOL....And they wonder why no bugger can get near the rabbits...LOL Some farmers believe the more people they let on to kill rabbits the more rabbits will be killed but unfortunately that is exactly the opposite effect it has. Hence pushing the shooters in to shooting at longer ranges. Anyway that's just my scenario and why I need to zero at that little bit further. But each to their own and what ever works best for them I suppose. Thanks Steve Very true....I was basing my assumptions on someone who didn't know, hence the need to ask the question.I agree with what your saying as a more experienced shooter. the trouble is if I fully agreed with you we would both be wrong.............. 1 Quote Link to post
Fieldsports 155 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 So.............find rabbit.....measure distance to said rabbit.........zero to said distance..........shoot rabbit........ ......or....... .......as Robwelsh says......zero at 35yds............practice shooting........estimate distances.......use mildots.......shoot loads of rabbits..... Just my opinion mate ! I think 40 is a good all-round distance to zero a .177 for the job I do. But I can't see the point of zeroing a scope in to 35 yards if 90% of targets are 40 yards Mildots are good and there for a reason but eliminate the use of them by the laws of average if possible. Thanks Steve If you zero at 35 yds then any rabbit that is between 10 and 40 yards is still going to drop if hit in the kill zone on your zero.I have yet to find a permission where rabbits are at a definitive distance. I agree with that Archie ..I have done 100's of farms and yes no rabbits are at a set distance, that would be silly to say they are or could ever be mate. Personally I like to zero at 40 with an air rifle in .177 as the majority of my places are holding targets at 40 - 50 yards I only have a couple of places that Rabbits are at closer range before they leave like greyhounds at the 30 - 35 yard range and like you say mildots works fine. I wish I could say most of my rabbit shooting was at closer range than 40y but in reality mine is not. I tend to work with them farmers that say ( your the only one on here ) and when I drive over the horizon there is another group of people walking towards me. LOL....And they wonder why no bugger can get near the rabbits...LOL Some farmers believe the more people they let on to kill rabbits the more rabbits will be killed but unfortunately that is exactly the opposite effect it has. Hence pushing the shooters in to shooting at longer ranges. Anyway that's just my scenario and why I need to zero at that little bit further. But each to their own and what ever works best for them I suppose. Thanks Steve Very true....I was basing my assumptions on someone who didn't know, hence the need to ask the question.I agree with what your saying as a more experienced shooter. the trouble is if I fully agreed with you we would both be wrong.............. Well you could not have said that better Archie. Hey sorry to get anyone on the high horse about this mate, that’s not what i do honest...LOL I do however wish you all the best and I hope I can be of help at some stage in the future . Thanks Steve Quote Link to post
robwelsh 354 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 i think 90% of people i know zero .22 at 25yrds, .20 at 30, and .177 at 35. i also thought that regardless of what distance u shoot at, i thought that sub 12, all have a flight pattern at these given ranges. im no expert and what u do is upto you, but that is how i see it. i also agree with on some ground u have to work around it, theres one place poached as buns by me, loads of rabbits, and all shy and run like fook...because people not taking the rabbit out with a confident shot etc...they know what danger is, and they dont hang around. unfortunately, i have permission on this ground, but its no stopping people lol. then my un touched permission, is bare 1 Quote Link to post
Fieldsports 155 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 i also agree with on some ground u have to work around it, theres one place poached as buns by me, loads of rabbits, and all shy and run like fook...because people not taking the rabbit out with a confident shot etc...they know what danger is, and they dont hang around. unfortunately, i have permission on this ground, but its no stopping people lol. then my un touched permission, is bare Familiar story with myself mate. I have a place crawling with Rabbits but they sit right close to the wood sides and are running off two fields away mate. If you even make the slightest noise with a gate they are running away 2 and 3 fields away. The farm is haunted with poachers and the rabbits are so educated if they hear a flee fart they find it a threat. Quote Link to post
Millet 4,497 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 I have alway's zeroed at 35yrd's and i seem to be able to hit stuff from 10 out to around 40yrd's with little adustment..a little bit of plinking practice will learn me where to aim for further target's.. Quote Link to post
zini 1,939 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 I use 25 meters, 27.3 yards imperial for my .22 sub 12 and just a little further for my .177. I do this as I work off a 20 mm kill zone instead of a 25 mm one. To get my nominated zero range I now enter all my combo data into chairgun and let it tell me what to zero at to go 10 mm above the scopes line of sight and 10 mm below it. This mean that from around 10 meters to 28 meters you can only be up to 10 mm off a perfect shot. Si. 1 Quote Link to post
Marksman 934 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Steve, Air rifles aren't rimfire mate. It's all well and good and works on the same principle but with a 40yd zero theres s lot more factors to be added into the equation, the weight of the pellets, the power and conditions all come into play, for me the closer you can get to the quarry the "better" chance of a clean kill and the fieldcraft for me all adds to the experience. If you enter the relevant information into ballistic software then it will give you "an idea" of the best ranges for rifle power & pellet weight also going off the mag of your scope Darryl Quote Link to post
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