scothunter 12,609 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 all very well saying do what needs to be done.however in reality i think it would be different.a lot of soldiers would leave i reckon if faced with women soldiers,not to mention the high rate of sucides that would concur. think soldiers now faced with pts had problems,wait till they have to kill women Quote Link to post Share on other sites
derbylad1 293 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 all very well saying do what needs to be done.however in reality i think it would be different.a lot of soldiers would leave i reckon if faced with women soldiers,not to mention the high rate of sucides that would concur. think soldiers now faced with pts had problems,wait till they have to kill women Yep...necrophilia is disgusting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 another point you may need to consider in having women in front line.is the effects it has on a soldier faced with a women in a combat situation.those russian women soldiers i mentioned.they faced the wehrmacht on the russian front.and the germans at first didnt know how to react.until they came under fire,and the officer gave the order to fire.even after 60 year when interviewed you could see that it still haunted him. I believe the Taliban and others make good use of that fact to. Using women and children as shields and even soldiers. Can you imagine the psycological impact having to clear an area with bayonets and coming up against an armed kid or woman? You know that's a bleedin' horrible thought. you do what has to be done . Man woman kid oap the enemy is the enemy if you think about it and hesitate you would be dead ......... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,484 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 all very well saying do what needs to be done.however in reality i think it would be different.a lot of soldiers would leave i reckon if faced with women soldiers,not to mention the high rate of sucides that would concur. think soldiers now faced with pts had problems,wait till they have to kill women in conflicts over the last 20 years you do deal with woman ragheads. In africa and the middle east. Its the way of the world now days im afraid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 another point you may need to consider in having women in front line.is the effects it has on a soldier faced with a women in a combat situation.those russian women soldiers i mentioned.they faced the wehrmacht on the russian front.and the germans at first didnt know how to react.until they came under fire,and the officer gave the order to fire.even after 60 year when interviewed you could see that it still haunted him. I believe the Taliban and others make good use of that fact to. Using women and children as shields and even soldiers. Can you imagine the psycological impact having to clear an area with bayonets and coming up against an armed kid or woman? You know that's a bleedin' horrible thought. you do what has to be done . Of course you would, you'd have too. but killing a woman or a child is just something else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,484 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 another point you may need to consider in having women in front line.is the effects it has on a soldier faced with a women in a combat situation.those russian women soldiers i mentioned.they faced the wehrmacht on the russian front.and the germans at first didnt know how to react.until they came under fire,and the officer gave the order to fire.even after 60 year when interviewed you could see that it still haunted him. I believe the Taliban and others make good use of that fact to. Using women and children as shields and even soldiers. Can you imagine the psycological impact having to clear an area with bayonets and coming up against an armed kid or woman? You know that's a bleedin' horrible thought. you do what has to be done . Of course you would, you'd have too. but killing a woman or a child is just something else. yes but as i said you do what has to be done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,535 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 another point you may need to consider in having women in front line.is the effects it has on a soldier faced with a women in a combat situation.those russian women soldiers i mentioned.they faced the wehrmacht on the russian front.and the germans at first didnt know how to react.until they came under fire,and the officer gave the order to fire.even after 60 year when interviewed you could see that it still haunted him. I believe the Taliban and others make good use of that fact to. Using women and children as shields and even soldiers. Can you imagine the psycological impact having to clear an area with bayonets and coming up against an armed kid or woman? You know that's a bleedin' horrible thought. you do what has to be done . Of course you would, you'd have too. but killing a woman or a child is just something else. Thats what seperates the likes of you and me to professional soldiers in my opinion.............we should all know our limitations i know i will stand toe to toe with any man and do whatever it took to win with no reverse gear..........but i couldnt shoot someone,i couldnt purposely kill any human being im just not mentally hard enough...............but that rare quality is what these lads are being paid for and its a hell of a responsibility. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,484 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 An infantry solider is highly trained to kill No matter what you either shoot,hand to hand or anyway possible Its kill or be killed. Yes its a responsibility but that what you are trained to do. Its the job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 another point you may need to consider in having women in front line.is the effects it has on a soldier faced with a women in a combat situation.those russian women soldiers i mentioned.they faced the wehrmacht on the russian front.and the germans at first didnt know how to react.until they came under fire,and the officer gave the order to fire.even after 60 year when interviewed you could see that it still haunted him. I believe the Taliban and others make good use of that fact to. Using women and children as shields and even soldiers. Can you imagine the psycological impact having to clear an area with bayonets and coming up against an armed kid or woman? You know that's a bleedin' horrible thought. you do what has to be done . Of course you would, you'd have too. but killing a woman or a child is just something else. Thats what seperates the likes of you and me to professional soldiers in my opinion.............we should all know our limitations i know i will stand toe to toe with any man and do whatever it took to win with no reverse gear..........but i couldnt shoot someone,i couldnt purposely kill any human being im just not mentally hard enough...............but that rare quality is what these lads are being paid for and its a hell of a responsibility. I could never kill women and kids I don't think? Maybe that would be different in extreme circumstances like our lads find themselves in over in war zones, but the thought of it makes me cringe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,832 Posted January 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Thats what seperates the likes of you and me to professional soldiers in my opinion.............we should all know our limitations i know i will stand toe to toe with any man and do whatever it took to win with no reverse gear..........but i couldnt shoot someone,i couldnt purposely kill any human being im just not mentally hard enough...............but that rare quality is what these lads are being paid for and its a hell of a responsibility. I think even a hardened soldier would struggle a little pscologically after running a woman or child through with cold steel. They're trained to respond to threats violently but that shit is still gonna burn itself into their conscience. You would do what you had to and what you had been trained to do, but that doesn't mean it's a done deal and forgotten about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,484 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 Its not just about killing you are psychologically and mentally trained and prepared for things like this. and yes it does affect alot of soliders after there are many many soliders mentally scared and its only recently that you can get help. Im not to good with words but socks can explain things better than i can. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,975 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 I wonder how many people commenting on this thread have seen a human being with their head opened up by gunfire? It's not like a Hollywood film, all neat and tidy with a quality soundtrack It's brutal and ugly and raw, it would make you feel sick to see it on a farmyard animal never mind a women or a child or any human being for that matter. Yes you do what you have to do to survive but let's not brush it off like its nothing. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,484 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 I wonder how many people commenting on this thread have seen a human being with their head opened up by gunfire? It's not like a Hollywood film, all neat and tidy with a quality soundtrack It's brutal and ugly and raw, it would make you feel sick to see it on a farmyard animal never mind a women or a child or any human being for that matter. Yes you do what you have to do to survive but let's not brush it off like its nothing. it stays with you forever WILF yes you are trained for it but I was medically discharged as i couldnt handle it. but as i say i am no good with words but you get my jist. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 exactly wilf. stalin and hitlers death squads either turned alcholics or blew thier f*****g brains out after there wee jaunts round the ukraine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,832 Posted January 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 The thread's took a different spin now, but that's the point I was trying to make WILF. I appreciate that British troops are trained to respond effectively no matter what they are faced with and that training would get them through hell, but facing women and adolescents in battle would surely have a psycologically deteriorating effect on troops? What do I know....... just trying to understand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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