Women In Front Line Combat Roles

[TUFFTY 1,484]

Told you i was no good with words.

enough said on my part im affraid.

[socks 32,253]

Killing is killing no matter of gender or age ... If you want to go home and see your loved ones then its the old cliche of you or them ... You can't think about it and mostly you don't ... When you get back in from a op and go through the debrief and get your kit ready for the next day you are shattered ... That combined with the comedown off adrenaline knocks you out and you sleep solidly without even a dream ... You get up you get briefed you go back out again and the same cycle happens again ...... You are conditioned to do the job you do and move on and get through the next day and if you don't or can't then you will end up dead or worst end up getting your mates and you killed ... Now there are lads that just can't do it ... Some freeze and can't pull the trigger ... Some pull the trigger and cant forget about it ... These lads are found out pretty quickly and move sideways to a job better suited to them ... As gnash said some people can't mentally handle the fact that they have taken a life and obviously they are not going to last long as a front line soldier ...........

[gnasher16 30,535]

What do I know....... just trying to understand.

 

Same as me mate.......my son in law is off out to Afghanistan any time now i sit asking him questions just like you say to try and get an understanding........but ive realised i probably never will understand we are all made different......i look at this lad and feel all worried and protective towards him ......and here he is going away fighting to protect us !!........He,s not a hardman by any means.......but mentally he makes me look like a girl !.......Just different class these boys.

[Born Hunter 17,832]

Well that's enlightened me socks. I honestly would have believed having to kill women and children would have f****d with a soldiers head compared with adult males.

[TUFFTY 1,484]

Killing is killing no matter of gender or age ... If you want to go home and see your loved ones then its the old cliche of you or them ... You can't think about it and mostly you don't ... When you get back in from a op and go through the debrief and get your kit ready for the next day you are shattered ... That combined with the comedown off adrenaline knocks you out and you sleep solidly without even a dream ... You get up you get briefed you go back out again and the same cycle happens again ...... You are conditioned to do the job you do and move on and get through the next day and if you don't or can't then you will end up dead or worst end up getting your mates and you killed ... Now there are lads that just can't do it ... Some freeze and can't pull the trigger ... Some pull the trigger and cant forget about it ... These lads are found out pretty quickly and move sideways to a job better suited to them ... As gnash said some people can't mentally handle the fact that they have taken a life and obviously they are not going to last long as a front line soldier ...........

Thank you socks for that.

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

What do I know....... just trying to understand.

 

Same as me mate.......my son in law is off out to Afghanistan any time now i sit asking him questions just like you say to try and get an understanding........but ive realised i probably never will understand we are all made different......i look at this lad and feel all worried and protective towards him ......and here he is going away fighting to protect us !!........He,s not a hardman by any means.......but mentally he makes me look like a girl !.......Just different class these boys.

 

When I've spoke to my pal about what it's like out there, he says he does think about the lives he's taken but what really does his head in is seeing his mates with legs and arms blown off, thinking he could of done more to keep them safe.

[stewie 3,387]

not read the whole thread but..............its a simple fact that women cause hassle when around men..............they might be the best soldiers in the world BUT when your in a frontline situation the last thing you need is infighting over a women on heat lol they have there uses, of course they do............but when it comes to the crunch the MEN fighting together for there lives DO NOT NEED even the slightest hint of jealousy over a minge lol lol there jobs are harder than most of us can ever imagine............no need to make it harder!!!!! most fights in town are over women..........keep them serving in the navvy.............. BUT that said i no nothing of being on the frontline...........

[WILF 47,977]

.....Just different class these boys.

 

True mate and 5000 of the most experienced got binned off on Tuesday while the politicians go round starting wars willy nilly

[Born Hunter 17,832]

What do I know....... just trying to understand.

 

Same as me mate.......my son in law is off out to Afghanistan any time now i sit asking him questions just like you say to try and get an understanding........but ive realised i probably never will understand we are all made different......i look at this lad and feel all worried and protective towards him ......and here he is going away fighting to protect us !!........He,s not a hardman by any means.......but mentally he makes me look like a girl !.......Just different class these boys.

 

The whole thing fascinates me, always has, ever since a young kid. Not like playing daft playstation war games but the real stuff, the soldiers, kit, history, regiments etc. I wanted to be a soldier as a youngster, then went down an academic route and wanted to work for the MOD supporting our Military from a scientific possition. I will always wonder if I could have made a soldier though, always. They're a cut above the rest.

[gnasher16 30,535]

The whole thing fascinates me, always has, ever since a young kid. Not like playing daft playstation war games but the real stuff, the soldiers, kit, history, regiments etc. I wanted to be a soldier as a youngster, then went down an academic route and wanted to work for the MOD supporting our Military from a scientific possition. I will always wonder if I could have made a soldier though, always. They're a cut above the rest.

 

Im the complete opposite im ashamed to admit i always held most of these army bods with slight contempt my experience of the few soldiers id met was they was complete prats who probably couldnt fight their way out of a paper bag in a straightener and whos big tough words didnt impress me one bit.................what an ignorant fool i was !!................Im sure there are the odd prats in an army uniform but its not about having a tear up its about doing a professional job ......one that i certainly wouldnt have the bollocks to do so maybe a bit more respect was/is needed on my behalf........now having direct family involved its thrown a whole new light on things for me........and like you say.....they are a cut above the rest is right

[stewie 3,387]

The whole thing fascinates me, always has, ever since a young kid. Not like playing daft playstation war games but the real stuff, the soldiers, kit, history, regiments etc. I wanted to be a soldier as a youngster, then went down an academic route and wanted to work for the MOD supporting our Military from a scientific possition. I will always wonder if I could have made a soldier though, always. They're a cut above the rest.

 

Im the complete opposite im ashamed to admit i always held most of these army bods with slight contempt my experience of the few soldiers id met was they was complete prats who probably couldnt fight their way out of a paper bag in a straightener and whos big tough words didnt impress me one bit.................what an ignorant fool i was !!................Im sure there are the odd prats in an army uniform but its not about having a tear up its about doing a professional job ......one that i certainly wouldnt have the bollocks to do so maybe a bit more respect was/is needed on my behalf........now having direct family involved its thrown a whole new light on things for me........and like you say.....they are a cut above the rest is right

mate they are trained like the rest of the working world in their trade!! the strong survive and the weak get deleted..............look at some civvy jobs like cleaning out sewers in a paki area and getting covered in there shit............i couldnt do that but someone does..................theres loads of jobs we think we couldnt do............but actually in that situation you could............one thing i do no tho is in 2013 i hope they all get the f**k out of americas oil war and no more of our troops die for f**k all........... my dad,brother,uncles, cousins and both grandads were in the army............its a big thing in my family but by f**k am i glad i never joined.............dying to save your country from what???? i respect them for what they do but i just cant understand why our boys are dying in oil fields in iraq or opium fields in afghanistan.......... BRING THEM HOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[derbylad1 293]

I've just finished in the infantry after 22 years and i did my first afghan tour as youngish lad, a whole life in front of me to come, no mortgage, no bills(apart from the loan on my boy racer car), loved it out there. did the job and hopefully did it well. not caring a bit what i faced

 

Second tour, our battalion saw a lot of shit and we lost some very good lads and saw a lot of lads that didn't like what was in front of them. they never went back out on patrols or op's and like socks said, were pushed into a job more suited to their mind set. A very, very rough tour.

 

The third tour...i was 37-38, thought f**k that shit...glad i was in a job where i ended up taking bombs and bullets out to the lads...instead of firing them.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

I've just finished in the infantry after 22 years and i did my first afghan tour as youngish lad, a whole life in front of me to come, no mortgage, no bills(apart from the loan on my boy racer car), loved it out there. did the job and hopefully did it well. not caring a bit what i faced

 

Second tour, our battalion saw a lot of shit and we lost some very good lads and saw a lot of lads that didn't like what was in front of them. they never went back out on patrols or op's and like socks said, were pushed into a job more suited to their mind set. A very, very rough tour.

 

The third tour...i was 37-38, thought f**k that shit...glad i was in a job where i ended up taking bombs and bullets out to the lads...instead of firing them.

. You have my total respect and i wish you luck in you future life.

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

I've just finished in the infantry after 22 years and i did my first afghan tour as youngish lad, a whole life in front of me to come, no mortgage, no bills(apart from the loan on my boy racer car), loved it out there. did the job and hopefully did it well. not caring a bit what i faced

 

Second tour, our battalion saw a lot of shit and we lost some very good lads and saw a lot of lads that didn't like what was in front of them. they never went back out on patrols or op's and like socks said, were pushed into a job more suited to their mind set. A very, very rough tour.

 

The third tour...i was 37-38, thought f**k that shit...glad i was in a job where i ended up taking bombs and bullets out to the lads...instead of firing them.

. You have my total respect and i wish you luck in you future life.

 

I'll second that as well. Respect where it's due. Nice one mate.

[derbylad1 293]

I need luck mate...this civvy life isn't so easy. good job i have a pension to tie me over. I dont like this working for a living shite.....lol

 

But i dont miss it in the slightest, i was lucky and spent my last year at a unit that teach and test the TA before they deployed, and was based local. So i managed to get myself suited to civvy street very progressively.