hancocks dogs

[sniffer 167]

Ive seen alot of hancock dogs run ive also seen them take deer, fox, longears and heaps of bunny's. so if they dont hunt was i on acid

[snoopdog 1,256]

Ive seen alot of hancock dogs run ive also seen them take deer, fox, longears and heaps of bunny's. so if they dont hunt was i on acid

ONLY YOU CAN ANSWER THAT .... ..BUT BY THE LOOK OFF YOUR NAME YOU ARE MOVING UP THE LADDER IN THE DRUG WORLD SO DONT WORRY ABOUT IT ...

[ASME IX 1]

i bought a hanCOCK pup about 8 yrs ago ,it was a show stopping dog to look at,and thats were the good points stopped.

i can gladly say i wont be walking down his path for another one....

At the end of the day the pups are his form of income, and we all want to earn a living.and if he still charges v a t on his pups then he is making quite a bit of proffit from them,any self employed members on here would know this to

 

asme9

[sniffer 167]

Ive seen alot of hancock dogs run ive also seen them take deer, fox, longears and heaps of bunny's. so if they dont hunt was i on acid

ONLY YOU CAN ANSWER THAT .... ..BUT BY THE LOOK OFF YOUR NAME YOU ARE MOVING UP THE LADDER IN THE DRUG WORLD SO DONT WORRY ABOUT IT ...

far out maaaan id rather have a to be honest lol sniff sniff lol.

[Magpie 102]

In answer to Magpie's question: I've had 2 Hancock bitches, both 3/4 Grey, one was 1/4 Beardie, and t'other was by Taffy (1/8 Beardie, 1/8 the Border) the B/B was average at most things and weird: slightly bonkers and THE most intelligent dog I have ever had: too bloody intelligent. The Beardie one was simply one of the best lurchers I have had, all quarry pre ban s/h, worked her guts out until she was 8 years old then keeled over one night after an accidental particularly hard hunt on a fox, swimming a river and going God knows how far: she owed me nothing at all having been out working nearly every day of her life. I was doing full time pest control at the time and that bitch saw more work in a year than most fdogs would see in a lifetime, so she was as tough as old boots and a nice character as well. Her daughter and granddaughter I bred off her were also very talented dogs and easy to live with as was the original.

 

Yes, his kennels used to be totally disgusting, but I have heard that he cleaned up the place a few years back and no longer has filthy stud dogs chained to bits of barrels and boxes. Though he still whelps his bitches on a handful of straw in pigpens by all accounts.

 

I don't agree with the way he farms dogs, nor what he feeds them, nor the fact that his dogs aren't tried in the field, some temperaments aren't right, nor the fact that neither the dogs or bitches have a particularly interesting or nice life etc etc. I have yet to see a pup come out of there that was truly well nourished: oh I know that some will look good on any sort of crap food, but a lot of his pups are scrawny pot bellied and with stary coats. His animal husbandry still leaves a lot to be desired.

 

By virtue of the fact that he breeds so many there has got to be some decent stuff come out of there, just as there is rubbish too. Me personally I wouldn't get another pup from him as I feel badly for the dogs having to live out their lives with nothing to stimulate them, no exercise and the fact that he'll sell to anyone with the money. No one can farm dogs on the scale he does and seriously care for every single one: I should think they are as important to him individually as chickens to a chicken farmer. And I don't like to see dogs kept and bred like that. Just my opinion.

Thank you Skycat. I'm inclined to agree with you on most of what you say. It must be awful for such intelligent animals to live such a mundane existence where the only stimulation they have is barking thier poor bloody heads off.

His kennels are clean with plenty of fresh straw for the puppies but, the yard is still more reminiscent of a scrap yard than well a maintained kennels.

His own house would probably be turned down by the 'how clean is your house' ladys for being too dirty and I have always declined the offer of a cup of tea on my visits for fear of contracting some bug or other. However just because is standard of cleanliess is not at the same level as mine doesn't make him or Joan bad people as some of you have suggested.

Now here in lies the dilemma. I love my Beardie crosses, I find they suit me just fine and although I searched high and low to find another breeder of GENUINE first cross Beardies not one could be found. So back to David I went as I know exactly what I'm getting from him whether I agree with how the puppies are reared or not. I do have to say that the litter my pup came from all looked very healthy. I like Skycat have had two dogs from David now and although my present bitch is still only a sapling I could not be more pleased with either of them. Shannon though typically slow to mature blossemed into a fantastic lurcher with a great work ethic and is sadly missed.

I do Genuinely like the man and his daughter Sally and I enjoy spending time in thier compony. Would I buy another lurcher from them, well, untill someone else starts breeding genuine Beardie cross from genuine working Beardie stock or I buy my own Beardie stud dog then I don't see as I have an alternative.

[Guest SJM]

A few people now have said they "had" to go to him because no one else breeds genuine border, beardie or border/beardie mix lurchers.

 

What a crock of shite There are people out there who are breeding them, you just have to get off your arse and look for them!

 

I looked for ages and debated over several litters before I bought my border collie cross lurcher. It requires patience not to just rush out and buy any old pup when you desperately want one, I waited and my patience paid off.

 

When I wanted a beardie cross, again I waited for the right litter to come along. My mate Paul wanted one too and decided since no one else was grasping the bull by the horns and everyone was trotting off to Hancocks place and handing over their money for unproven pups, he would breed his own. He obtained an ex track bitch and put a well bred proven working beardie over it, the dog belonged to Marc H Glen who some of you might remember from his excellent articles in EDRD.

 

The pups from this litter proved to be good, sound workers, I had one and was over the moon with it. I would have another like her again in a minute.

 

David Hancock is not the only person in the world who breeds collie lurchers There are folks out there who will spend a couple of years testing out a collie or a greyhound, or both to see if its worthwhile breeding from them, rather than just flinging any old 2 dogs together for the sake of it. There were some pups on here not so long ago I beleive Chalkwarren bred them? which would have fitted the bill, but I think the problem lies in peoples lack of patience and willingness to wait for the right pup from the right sort of parents. We live in a "want it now" world where no one wants to wait for something good so they rush in and buy something with a question mark over it just to fill that gap in their lives

 

Is patience becoming an outdated virtue? I sometimes wonder when I read threads like this

 

This is Ruby, 2 years old, working border collie, bred from a long line of trialling and working dogs. She spent 6 months on a working hill farm to test whether she had the drive and instinct to do the job she was bred for. She will spend this winter working with me to see if she is up to what I demand from a dog. So far all signs are positive, allthough she does show tendencies to herd to excess, but then shes a border collie, cant expect anything else She doesnt yap when chasing, doesnt cock, jumps for fun and can spin a few bunnies and catch them. Maybe another season of work will tell if shes good enough to breed from? Then begins the search for a greyhound, not just any greyhound, a dog thats proven itself over distance, preferably coursed and caught and shown itself to have a bit of heart and wind. Do you think David Hancock works his dogs or conditions them to see if they have what it takes?

 

[snoopdog 1,256]

YOU BETTER WATCH YOUR STEP FOLKS ...SJM HAS GONE ALL SERIOUS ON US .....SHES BEEN TRYING FOR YEARS TO WIN ONE MAN AND HIS DOG AND I THINK FINALLY SHES GOING TO DO IT THIS YEAR ....GOOD LUCK SARAH

[Guest SJM]

Im in secret talks with Katy Cropper my mentor

[Magpie 102]

Yeah your right mate. The eighteen months I spent talking to different people and trolling through sites like this one just wasn't long enough. I think I'll shoot the one I've got and go back to twiddling me thumbs.

[snoopdog 1,256]

new hancocks breed for sale Sorry mate

HA HA SS IVE ONLY JUST SEEN THIS MATE ...THERES NO HANCOCK IN HIM MATE NOT THAT I KNOW MUCH ABOUT HANCOCK LURCHERS ... EVRYBODY TO THERE OWN THATS WHAT I SAY ...

 

ALL THE BEST SNOOP .....

[Guest FOXDOG]

Can I say one thing folks and im not slagging off hancock dogs or any other cross for that matter BUT I have read a couple of times on this thread where people have said that it doesnt matter if their dogs are bred from none workers its the person that makes a dog Well that is a load of bull Maybe if you want to catch a few bunnies not big bags but what happens when they get up to a fox? Some dogs from untested parents MIGHT kill them and its a big might but with most all you will hear is BARK BARK When it comes to lurchers its 60 or 70% breeding and the rest is down to the person at the end of the lead Now can someone please show me a dog out of untested parents that can catch 30 rabbits on the lamp or 3 daytime hares or 3 foxes or in the night pull a fallow all single handed? I think ill be waiting....

[snoopdog 1,256]

IN ONE RESPECT I AGREE FOXDOG ITS A MUST .. GETTING A PUP FROM WORKING STOCK ..BUT EVEN THEN A DOG DOSNT MAKE ITS SELF ..ITS THE PERSON BEHIND THE DOG THAT MAKES A GOOD DOG INTO AN EXELLENT DOG ..BY GETTING IT FIT AND TRAINING IT KNOWING WHEN THE A YOUNG DOG HAS HAD ENOUGH AND TO GET IT BACK ON THE LEASH SO YOU DONT BREAK ITS HEART ... YOU DEFFERNETLY NEED THE BREEDING FOR YOUR PUP TO EXCELL ON YOUR CHOSEN QUARRIES BUT DONT THINK FOR ONE MINUTE THE DOG WILL MAKE ITSELF EVEN IF ITS COMES OFF A WORLD BEATER TO A WORLD BEATER ..ITS YOU THE OWNER THAT MAKES THE DOG TO BE THE BEST IT CAN BE .....IVE SEEN MANY A YOUNG DOG SPOILED BECAUSE THE OWNER EXSPECTED TO RUN THIRTY BUNNIES WITH OUT THE PROPER TRAINING AND FITTNESS... WRONG FOOD ECT ECT ECT ....THERES DOGS THAT GET SOLD ON BECAUSE IT WONT KILL THREE OUT OF THREE HARES ...BUT THEN THE MAN WHO HAS BOUGHT THE DOG SEES POTENCIAL AND HE GETS IT FIT AND FEEDS IT RIGHT AND LOOKS AFTER THE DOG HOW IT SHOULD BE LOOKED AFTER ..THE NEXT THING YOU NOW ITS BANGING HARES LIKE THERES NO TOMMOROW ....AS THE SAYING GOES .......

 

 

ITS THE MANETH THAT MAKETH THE DOGETH ...NEVER A TRUER WORD SAID ...

 

ALL THE BEST SNOOP

[Guest FOXDOG]

Yes Snoopdog your a 100% right its the man that makes the dog PROVIDING the breeding and potential is there, I have an 18 month dog here written off at 11 months because he wouldnt kill a fox!!! I took him on and now at 18 months has killed the 6 foxes hes seen It just shows what tossers are in the doggie world

[Guest ceredigion bull cross]

Yes Snoopdog your a 100% right its the man that makes the dog PROVIDING the breeding and potential is there, I have an 18 month dog here written off at 11 months because he wouldnt kill a fox!!! I took him on and now at 18 months has killed the 6 foxes hes seen It just shows what tossers are in the doggie world

i'm sure FOXDOG that you posted not long ago that your 3/4 grey 1/4 bull was not killing fox's but letting them go edited to add ..... i have just taken a look at your profile and found that you did post the above on the 9 of july .

[bill88 6]

Yes Snoopdog your a 100% right its the man that makes the dog PROVIDING the breeding and potential is there, I have an 18 month dog here written off at 11 months because he wouldnt kill a fox!!! I took him on and now at 18 months has killed the 6 foxes hes seen It just shows what tossers are in the doggie world

i'm sure FOXDOG that you posted not long ago that your 3/4 grey 1/4 bull was not killing fox's but letting them go edited to add ..... i have just taken a look at your profile and found that you did post the above on the 9 of july .