Tennant Farmers,shoot Syndicate, Pest Control Permission

[budharley 945]

Hi , my dads friend is the tennant farmer on land near us that has seperate shooting rights the farmer has given my dad permision to shoot vermin but he cant touch game obviously .He is only allowed on the land alone does this sound correct or is there a chance that the farmer is just thinking he is right to allow my dad on the land . My dad was talking to the farmer and he was telling him they havnt realy shot it at all this year and they was talking about lambing and foxes, there is 4 or 5 fox earths on there and my dads going to ask him about checking these earths im just wondering could this be a load of bollox i had a little walk saturday and there are fox printts everywhere

[tegater 789]

You could do with checking as around me a lot of the tenants can carry out critical vermin control themselves, but cannot transfer that right to somebody else.

It may be because the land is all part of grouse and pheasant shoot and is keepered. The keeper then becomes the agent. If one of the farms I shoot on need crop protection, they have to phone the keeper first, to see if he can do it, but usually he then allows permission because he has better things to be getting on with.

 

Somewhere the tenant should have it in writing but otherwise they can check with landowner.

 

It may be different in other parts. Thankfully most of my permission is landowner farmed.

 

Hope this makes sense.

[Malt 379]

You could do with checking as around me a lot of the tenants can carry out critical vermin control themselves, but cannot transfer that right to somebody else.

It may be because the land is all part of grouse and pheasant shoot and is keepered. The keeper then becomes the agent. If one of the farms I shoot on need crop protection, they have to phone the keeper first, to see if he can do it, but usually he then allows permission because he has better things to be getting on with.

 

Somewhere the tenant should have it in writing but otherwise they can check with landowner.

 

It may be different in other parts. Thankfully most of my permission is landowner farmed.

 

Hope this makes sense.

I thought the tennant had the right to appoint one named person to control vermin, or at least that's the impression I have got from the many threads on the subject that have been on here over the years..

[budharley 945]

speaking with my dad yesterday mate he has only been a handfull of times and hasnt crossed paths with the tennant shooter , i just think its a bit strange

[budharley 945]

You could do with checking as around me a lot of the tenants can carry out critical vermin control themselves, but cannot transfer that right to somebody else.

It may be because the land is all part of grouse and pheasant shoot and is keepered. The keeper then becomes the agent. If one of the farms I shoot on need crop protection, they have to phone the keeper first, to see if he can do it, but usually he then allows permission because he has better things to be getting on with.

 

Somewhere the tenant should have it in writing but otherwise they can check with landowner.

 

It may be different in other parts. Thankfully most of my permission is landowner farmed.

 

Hope this makes sense.

I thought the tennant had the right to appoint one named person to control vermin, or at least that's the impression I have got from the many threads on the subject that have been on here over the years..

 

thats what my dad says malt ill get him to ask farmer this week

[tegater 789]

You could do with checking as around me a lot of the tenants can carry out critical vermin control themselves, but cannot transfer that right to somebody else.

It may be because the land is all part of grouse and pheasant shoot and is keepered. The keeper then becomes the agent. If one of the farms I shoot on need crop protection, they have to phone the keeper first, to see if he can do it, but usually he then allows permission because he has better things to be getting on with.

 

Somewhere the tenant should have it in writing but otherwise they can check with landowner.

 

It may be different in other parts. Thankfully most of my permission is landowner farmed.

 

Hope this makes sense.

I thought the tennant had the right to appoint one named person to control vermin, or at least that's the impression I have got from the many threads on the subject that have been on here over the years..

They might have Malt, it might be on this estate though that they can't. You wouldn't believe some of the problems the remnants go through just to shoot a few rabbits themselves. I found out by way of a bollocking one day as I had been given permission by the tenant to ferret, but hadnt got the permission from the keeper. Luckily it all ended ok but now on those particular farms I can only get permission from the keeper and not from the farmer.

[budharley 945]

You could do with checking as around me a lot of the tenants can carry out critical vermin control themselves, but cannot transfer that right to somebody else.

It may be because the land is all part of grouse and pheasant shoot and is keepered. The keeper then becomes the agent. If one of the farms I shoot on need crop protection, they have to phone the keeper first, to see if he can do it, but usually he then allows permission because he has better things to be getting on with.

 

Somewhere the tenant should have it in writing but otherwise they can check with landowner.

 

It may be different in other parts. Thankfully most of my permission is landowner farmed.

 

Hope this makes sense.

I thought the tennant had the right to appoint one named person to control vermin, or at least that's the impression I have got from the many threads on the subject that have been on here over the years..

They might have Malt, it might be on this estate though that they can't. You wouldn't believe some of the problems the remnants go through just to shoot a few rabbits themselves. I found out by way of a bollocking one day as I had been given permission by the tenant to ferret, but hadnt got the permission from the keeper. Luckily it all ended ok but now on those particular farms I can only get permission from the keeper and not from the farmer.

 

do you know if there is any rules about putting game down what if the tennant shooters dont put game down or realy shoot the land is it up to them if they do or dont

[tegater 789]

You could do with checking as around me a lot of the tenants can carry out critical vermin control themselves, but cannot transfer that right to somebody else.

It may be because the land is all part of grouse and pheasant shoot and is keepered. The keeper then becomes the agent. If one of the farms I shoot on need crop protection, they have to phone the keeper first, to see if he can do it, but usually he then allows permission because he has better things to be getting on with.

 

Somewhere the tenant should have it in writing but otherwise they can check with landowner.

 

It may be different in other parts. Thankfully most of my permission is landowner farmed.

 

Hope this makes sense.

I thought the tennant had the right to appoint one named person to control vermin, or at least that's the impression I have got from the many threads on the subject that have been on here over the years..

They might have Malt, it might be on this estate though that they can't. You wouldn't believe some of the problems the remnants go through just to shoot a few rabbits themselves. I found out by way of a bollocking one day as I had been given permission by the tenant to ferret, but hadnt got the permission from the keeper. Luckily it all ended ok but now on those particular farms I can only get permission from the keeper and not from the farmer.

 

do you know if there is any rules about putting game down what if the tennant shooters dont put game down or realy shoot the land is it up to them if they do or dont

Not sure Bud. Be worth a phone call to the landowner. Explain the tenant has given you permission and tell them what you want to do.

The tenant will have the contact details.

 

The landowner may not be bothered and in which case you can fill your boots.

[Malt 379]

You could do with checking as around me a lot of the tenants can carry out critical vermin control themselves, but cannot transfer that right to somebody else.

It may be because the land is all part of grouse and pheasant shoot and is keepered. The keeper then becomes the agent. If one of the farms I shoot on need crop protection, they have to phone the keeper first, to see if he can do it, but usually he then allows permission because he has better things to be getting on with.

 

Somewhere the tenant should have it in writing but otherwise they can check with landowner.

 

It may be different in other parts. Thankfully most of my permission is landowner farmed.

 

Hope this makes sense.

I thought the tennant had the right to appoint one named person to control vermin, or at least that's the impression I have got from the many threads on the subject that have been on here over the years..

They might have Malt, it might be on this estate though that they can't. You wouldn't believe some of the problems the remnants go through just to shoot a few rabbits themselves. I found out by way of a bollocking one day as I had been given permission by the tenant to ferret, but hadnt got the permission from the keeper. Luckily it all ended ok but now on those particular farms I can only get permission from the keeper and not from the farmer.

Some keepers are a law unto themselves though mate, what they say aint always the actual way of things.. I know one member on here who had one demanding his gun off him a while back even though he had the legal right to be where was.

[tegater 789]

You could do with checking as around me a lot of the tenants can carry out critical vermin control themselves, but cannot transfer that right to somebody else.

It may be because the land is all part of grouse and pheasant shoot and is keepered. The keeper then becomes the agent. If one of the farms I shoot on need crop protection, they have to phone the keeper first, to see if he can do it, but usually he then allows permission because he has better things to be getting on with.

 

Somewhere the tenant should have it in writing but otherwise they can check with landowner.

 

It may be different in other parts. Thankfully most of my permission is landowner farmed.

 

Hope this makes sense.

I thought the tennant had the right to appoint one named person to control vermin, or at least that's the impression I have got from the many threads on the subject that have been on here over the years..

They might have Malt, it might be on this estate though that they can't. You wouldn't believe some of the problems the remnants go through just to shoot a few rabbits themselves. I found out by way of a bollocking one day as I had been given permission by the tenant to ferret, but hadnt got the permission from the keeper. Luckily it all ended ok but now on those particular farms I can only get permission from the keeper and not from the farmer.

Some keepers are a law unto themselves though mate, what they say aint always the actual way of things.. I know one member on here who had one demanding his gun off him a while back even though he had the legal right to be where was.

I'll have it Malt, but it's better doing it with the blessing of all involved, than being in the middle of an argument with the cops getting turned out as well.

 

If Buds permission isn't keepered it may not be a problem.

[Malt 379]

You could do with checking as around me a lot of the tenants can carry out critical vermin control themselves, but cannot transfer that right to somebody else.

It may be because the land is all part of grouse and pheasant shoot and is keepered. The keeper then becomes the agent. If one of the farms I shoot on need crop protection, they have to phone the keeper first, to see if he can do it, but usually he then allows permission because he has better things to be getting on with.

 

Somewhere the tenant should have it in writing but otherwise they can check with landowner.

 

It may be different in other parts. Thankfully most of my permission is landowner farmed.

 

Hope this makes sense.

I thought the tennant had the right to appoint one named person to control vermin, or at least that's the impression I have got from the many threads on the subject that have been on here over the years..

They might have Malt, it might be on this estate though that they can't. You wouldn't believe some of the problems the remnants go through just to shoot a few rabbits themselves. I found out by way of a bollocking one day as I had been given permission by the tenant to ferret, but hadnt got the permission from the keeper. Luckily it all ended ok but now on those particular farms I can only get permission from the keeper and not from the farmer.

Some keepers are a law unto themselves though mate, what they say aint always the actual way of things.. I know one member on here who had one demanding his gun off him a while back even though he had the legal right to be where was.

I'll have it Malt, but it's better doing it with the blessing of all involved, than being in the middle of an argument with the cops getting turned out as well.

 

If Buds permission isn't keepered it may not be a problem.

[scottishlass 57]

When we went for a tenancy of a farm it stated that we were responsible for the control of vermin so it was up to us to do it our self or ask some to do it , also stated that the estate shoots would be carried out if we liked it or not had to let the shoot on , dont know if the same rules in scotland as in england

[BIGLURKS 874]

It comes down too the land owner and what agreement he writes up for a tennant and what is written who is too taken care of vermin if it is written that its the tennant then u have too ask them but if the landowner dosnt add it then it falls under the maintenance and upkeep but the land owner will usally have the final say in how he wants he's land looked after

[The one 8,551]

One of the farms i do has a keeper but hes the first full time keeper that has to pay for ground but being a barstool im no surprised . he bumped into me one day and we went to see the farmer and he replied you do the game and he does the vermin and if you could do your fecking job i wouldn't need him , so what your saying sounds about right mate

[neil r 1,935]

Hi , my dads friend is the tennant farmer on land near us that has seperate shooting rights the farmer has given my dad permision to shoot vermin but he cant touch game obviously .He is only allowed on the land alone does this sound correct or is there a chance that the farmer is just thinking he is right to allow my dad on the land . My dad was talking to the farmer and he was telling him they havnt realy shot it at all this year and they was talking about lambing and foxes, there is 4 or 5 fox earths on there and my dads going to ask him about checking these earths im just wondering could this be a load of bollox i had a little walk saturday and there are fox printts everywhere

 

Is the estate near between preston and garstang .I work on a farm up that way thats part of an estate and they say 1 named person and no lamping . Ive got half a dozen permissions up there that are not worth me doing because the scroate that was the keeper at the time kept complaining to the estate mnager about lamping . Eventually they sent letters to all the tennant farmers saying 1 person only with written permission and no lamping at all . Some of the farm i go on were not happy and tried to get them to rethink but even though they got rid of the keeper it still stands .