Advice Please

[MAIN MAN 277]

Alright guys, im looking to get a variation on my fire arms for a pistol, i need it for fox sheep and mabe cattlle, I know a 22 pistol would be ok for the fox control but need one that will do it all, any veiws would be much appreciated thanks.

[donnyc 1,203]

.410 shot pistol

[MAIN MAN 277]

can you legaly use it to put cattle down? iv used my 410 for the sheep at times and foxes.

[tegater 789]

Why has it got to be a pistol? Have you not considered shotgun.

.410 with 6 shot out of pistol would do it I expect as I am sure the humane slaughter association used to say that was minimum at point blank range. Think they were talking about full length though.

[sussex 5,777]

Main man I'd go for a .32 its a well used round for a humane killer.My last one did the job perfect .

[trentotter 158]

you can have most calibre's as long as it can only hold one shot... some vet's use .44 magnum's for horse's!!!!!!

[GEOFF.223 83]

why does it has to be a pistol may i ask as you could just use a .22 rifle?

 

i know a few guys who have .22 humane killing pistols the ones which you have to put against the head before trigger works

[sussex 5,777]

Its a lot easier holding a pistol /revolver than a rifle ,even a .22 can be a bit awkward if your trying to restrain something like a deer hooked on a fence, & much more discrete..I think geoff your looking at .22 captive bolt , slightly different from using a pistol/revolver as a humane killer that actually fires a round , as apposed to firing the bolt. I must confess to never having used the captive bolt , but have seen it used to great effect.

[MAIN MAN 277]

Partly because its better to use in tight places! Some times sheep have to be put down when there lay on there side witch can make it harder to get a well placed shot.

[SportingShooter 0]

I've never really understood the use of the .32 in the UK but it seems to be the preferred option for Firearms departments. The amount of guns out there in .32 is limited and the last time I looked, ammunition was hideously expensive for it.

 

I would be looking to buy something which also comes in one of the gallery rifle cartridges, such as the .357. Much easier to come by both guns and ammunition for it with plenty of power for anything up to a very large bull which you can't get near.

 

The .32 ACP has around 120 ft/lb of energy at the muzzle, around the same as a .22LR from a 20" barrel. Whereas a .357 has around 600 ft/lb which may seem excessive but a modern expanding point is going to dump most of that in whatever you're shooting, particularly cattle. Of course, you have the .38 Special as well, around 250 ft/lbs which is a decent middle ground.

[GEOFF.223 83]

do you need a license for the captive bolt ?

[MAIN MAN 277]

Good advice thanks for your input, i dont want to ask the fire arms dpt what caliber! i would rather get more information about a type i want for the reasons i want it if that makes sence.

I had a 222 witch i did a part x for a 243, then missed the 222 and ended up going back and buying another 222 but this takes so much time as you know..