The European Union In Or Out

[jambay5 191]

Out , these other countries will still trade with us as they need our money .

But do we need there's!!!!!

[Swampy 147]

WHAT WOULD YOU VOTE IN A REFERENDUM

 

SIMPLE YES STAY IN

SIMPLE NO GET OUT

 

 

ME OUT AND ASAP

 

That is not a simple "NO"

 

grammatical ning

[foxtails 272]

Oh we Will get a vote. The party that gives us one will win the next election hands down with biggest majority ever ,

After two world wars we bounced back it was hard but no worse than what we are going through now every thing we have had off europe we put double in we have to accept every scum bagg from every nation in the club and even pay fot the honour , Get out vote out. And get the foooking lot of them out , cut all benifits to all without a brit passport. Issue visas every six months to any one WE NEED TO WORK HERE AND ONLY WHEN WE CAN NOT FILL THE POST FROM HOME GROWN ANY ONE WANTING TO GET BRITISH PASSORTS SHOULD EARN THE RIGHT NOT BE GIVEN THE RIGHT JUST BECAUSE EUROPEAN LAW SAYS SO RANT OVER.

totaly agree, my thinking down to the T !!!!!!!!!!!

[mushroom 12,878]

Out of the EU political BS

 

But as Peak said remain within the trading, right of free passage etc.

 

Remove all benefit rights for any foreign national including upto third generation born in UK who has not contributed tax to the system and start to implement a deportation law of ALL criminals holding a foreign passport after their sentence, deport all criminals and wastes of space of foreign descent upto third generation and failed asylum seekers.

 

RESTRICT THE NHS!!! Foreign nationals must have their medical bills paid for!!!!!

 

Then start on the lazy "fec up's" we all know who have never done a days work in their lives and still get shit loads of benefits, force them to work or receive nothing.

 

I'm only entilted to one sort of benefit here in Spain because I have paid tax here! Same as everyone else, no tax, no money simples.

 

Rant over.

I wonder what your motive is for keeping the right of passage is?? living in spain!!

 

:laugh: I live here and work, pay into the system, speak the language pretty well etc free passage or not I'll be staying and continue paying tax, that should keep them off my back.

 

My reasons for keeping free passage are; That Europe has a lot to offer British youths and likewise. Our kids should be encouraged to travel and see the world/learn a language I wish I'd been encouraged to 15 years ago. The amount of well travelled/educated late teens/early twenties I have met here is astounding, it's about broadning horizons.

 

As for the work side of things if someone from another country is better suited to a role why not employ them, if we can keep this easy within Europe without need for visas for Europeans the better, yes there are things like jobs being stolen etc but that is down to the Gov to decide the rules on to make it fair. Believe me It aint easy for people from outside of the EU anywhere else except Britain!!! Yet we British have a very closed mentality regarding open travel & immigration so go figure

 

But remember there are several Brits working here earning large figures alongside people from all over Europe. The things ease of travel allowed us is amazing! Try having a Mexican or a USA passport and see the difference

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Out , these other countries will still trade with us as they need our money .

But do we need there's!!!!!

yes and they will carry on trading do you think they will walk away no chance the common market was and is a great idea and if we are to stay in we need to go back to trade and regain border and immergration control. Bulgeria and hungary are the next two to flood us with there rejects. Its not Whether we should leave it how fast can we leave the EU we cannot go on being the cash cow for all Simple mathermatics. We dont have the resorces at any level to carry on the way we are. We are at breaking point at every level health services , social services , housing etc. DO YOUR HOME WORK

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Out of the EU political BS

 

But as Peak said remain within the trading, right of free passage etc.

 

Remove all benefit rights for any foreign national including upto third generation born in UK who has not contributed tax to the system and start to implement a deportation law of ALL criminals holding a foreign passport after their sentence, deport all criminals and wastes of space of foreign descent upto third generation and failed asylum seekers.

 

RESTRICT THE NHS!!! Foreign nationals must have their medical bills paid for!!!!!

 

Then start on the lazy "fec up's" we all know who have never done a days work in their lives and still get shit loads of benefits, force them to work or receive nothing.

 

I'm only entilted to one sort of benefit here in Spain because I have paid tax here! Same as everyone else, no tax, no money simples.

 

Rant over.

I wonder what your motive is for keeping the right of passage is?? living in spain!!

 

:laugh: I live here and work, pay into the system, speak the language pretty well etc free passage or not I'll be staying and continue paying tax, that should keep them off my back.

 

My reasons for keeping free passage are; That Europe has a lot to offer British youths and likewise. Our kids should be encouraged to travel and see the world/learn a language I wish I'd been encouraged to 15 years ago. The amount of well travelled/educated late teens/early twenties I have met here is astounding, it's about broadning horizons.

 

As for the work side of things if someone from another country is better suited to a role why not employ them, if we can keep this easy within Europe without need for visas for Europeans the better, yes there are things like jobs being stolen etc but that is down to the Gov to decide the rules on to make it fair. Believe me It aint easy for people from outside of the EU anywhere else except Britain!!! Yet we British have a very closed mentality regarding open travel & immigration so go figure

 

But remember there are several Brits working here earning large figures alongside people from all over Europe. The things ease of travel allowed us is amazing! Try having a Mexican or a USA passport and see the difference

. Why the laff after every para. Ive worked all over europe and the world since the 80s workrd in spain when it was illigall. Your doing nothing new so the collapse of the uk health and social services does not matter grow up and wake up. Ca'pasa NA'DA. My arse. Foooking big problem that are grankids will have to fight a war over.

[mushroom 12,878]

Out of the EU political BS

 

But as Peak said remain within the trading, right of free passage etc.

 

Remove all benefit rights for any foreign national including upto third generation born in UK who has not contributed tax to the system and start to implement a deportation law of ALL criminals holding a foreign passport after their sentence, deport all criminals and wastes of space of foreign descent upto third generation and failed asylum seekers.

 

RESTRICT THE NHS!!! Foreign nationals must have their medical bills paid for!!!!!

 

Then start on the lazy "fec up's" we all know who have never done a days work in their lives and still get shit loads of benefits, force them to work or receive nothing.

 

I'm only entilted to one sort of benefit here in Spain because I have paid tax here! Same as everyone else, no tax, no money simples.

 

Rant over.

I wonder what your motive is for keeping the right of passage is?? living in spain!!

 

:laugh: I live here and work, pay into the system, speak the language pretty well etc free passage or not I'll be staying and continue paying tax, that should keep them off my back.

 

My reasons for keeping free passage are; That Europe has a lot to offer British youths and likewise. Our kids should be encouraged to travel and see the world/learn a language I wish I'd been encouraged to 15 years ago. The amount of well travelled/educated late teens/early twenties I have met here is astounding, it's about broadning horizons.

 

As for the work side of things if someone from another country is better suited to a role why not employ them, if we can keep this easy within Europe without need for visas for Europeans the better, yes there are things like jobs being stolen etc but that is down to the Gov to decide the rules on to make it fair. Believe me It aint easy for people from outside of the EU anywhere else except Britain!!! Yet we British have a very closed mentality regarding open travel & immigration so go figure

 

But remember there are several Brits working here earning large figures alongside people from all over Europe. The things ease of travel allowed us is amazing! Try having a Mexican or a USA passport and see the difference

. Why the laff after every para. Ive worked all over europe and the world since the 80s workrd in spain when it was illigall. Your doing nothing new so the collapse of the uk health and social services does not matter grow up and wake up. Ca'pasa NA'DA. My arse. Foooking big problem that are grankids will have to fight a war over.

 

See previous post regarding services/benefits ONLY for tax payers

 

Plus I know I'm doing nothing new but want my kids/grandkids to be able to do the same if they want.

[gonetoearth 5,144]

They will travel bud in uniforms onec again fighting a war

[gonetoearth 5,144]

The EU is in tatters Why are so many heading here if europe is so great the re entry of ex patts is at a all time high. Leaving frsnce spain greece etc. The euro is being supported by the world banks. We live in dangerous times f**k me we carnt even get a vote in the euro song contest and you think they will stand by us when the shit really hits the fan. Lol

[jambay5 191]

Out , these other countries will still trade with us as they need our money .

But do we need there's!!!!!

yes and they will carry on trading do you think they will walk away no chance the common market was and is a great idea and if we are to stay in we need to go back to trade and regain border and immergration control. Bulgeria and hungary are the next two to flood us with there rejects. Its not Whether we should leave it how fast can we leave the EU we cannot go on being the cash cow for all Simple mathermatics. We dont have the resorces at any level to carry on the way we are. We are at breaking point at every level health services , social services , housing etc. DO YOUR HOME WORK

cash cow for who??? its our own gov thats putting public services at breaking point i suggest you do YOUR home work first you need to learn the difference between debt and deficit,

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Done my home work for years bud and know the differance. You should do yours on the. EU and are input And the strain on are servises. Rose colourd glasses might want cleaning eh

[mushroom 12,878]

Done my home work for years bud and know the differance. You should do yours on the. EU and are input And the strain on are servises. Rose colourd glasses might want cleaning eh

 

I agree the strain on the UK's services is obviously taking it to breaking point;

 

10's of thousands immigrant children born to immigrant parents already claiming benefits.

 

older immigrants who have just come off the banana boat claiming benefits and NHS treatment that should be going to our own home grow elderly,

 

said immigrant children growing up making black money and still claiming benefits,

 

health care tourists,

 

failed asylum seekers and immigrants wasting millions of tax payers money every MONTH fighting battles to remain in the UK when they should simply be deported after the first NO!!!

 

Just because we once had colonies everybody thinks they should be given full British citizenship and benefits, they got independence so feckin deal with it Australia did!

 

benefit cheats

 

The list is endless.

 

Now take the Spanish view on say one of their ex colonies (Mexico) and the extra rights afforded them;

 

Can we come to Spain??? ...Yes on a holiday visa or maybe a student visa if you have your course set up, paid for and 6000 Euros in your account!

 

Can we claim benefits for all the raping and pillaging you did to our country?? ....No Fuuck off

 

Can we work?? .... Do you have a permanent contract for your stay??? will your employer guarantor you??? if one answer is no fuuck off!!

 

UK is the laughing stock of the world

[paulus 26]

Out , these other countries will still trade with us as they need our money .

But do we need there's!!!!!

yes and they will carry on trading do you think they will walk away no chance the common market was and is a great idea and if we are to stay in we need to go back to trade and regain border and immergration control. Bulgeria and hungary are the next two to flood us with there rejects. Its not Whether we should leave it how fast can we leave the EU we cannot go on being the cash cow for all Simple mathermatics. We dont have the resorces at any level to carry on the way we are. We are at breaking point at every level health services , social services , housing etc. DO YOUR HOME WORK

The bit i dont get with this alledged influx of Bulgerians is the whole population of bulgeria is only roughly 7.5 million, do you really think over 1 in 4 of the population would want to come to britian the expat websites over there are laughing at the figures quoted as they dont know 1 bulgerian who wants to come to britian

[PeakOil 352]

How many Romanian and Bulgarian 'visitors' can we look forward to in 2014?

[WILF 46,651]

what as opposed to them coming last of the big 3 in the election!! and still being in power!!!

 

They may be in government matey, but I wouldnt call them in power.......would you?

 

They have comitted politcal suicide by wanting to be in government as it has shown them up for what they are, useless!

Its easy to make outrageous promises and claims when you know your never gonna have to be in government and back them up........dreamers matey, dreamers to a man.

 

My hope is that if there is room in the houses of parliment for the likes of the lib dems, then there is room to replace them with someone like UKIP.......all UKIP need is a few credible candidates to put the ordinary persons voice back in parliment.

If one or two MPs had the balls to defect to UKIP (which is in reality a libertarian version of the traditional old version of the conservatives) then it would be a major step forward for all of us.

JMHO