boyo 1,398 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 this is just an opinion but anyone breeds a large litter and dosnt cull to help the bitch say down to 5 or 6 pups is only breeding for money torin i gotta be honest thats the biggest load of crap ive seen on here fore a long time and thats my opinion. last litter i bred cost me £250 stud fee, hundred and sixty pound in fuel going up to stud dog twice ,ten lots of jabs wormers and the best of food etc from 3 weeks old kept one myself gave my son and son in law one each and sold the rest if you cant afford to rear a litter and give them the best of everything then imo dont breed to start with .plus to many want something for nothing ..why anyone would want to cull a perfectly healthy pup that they have just bred is beyond me . one of the pups i sold was bought back at 10 months old because it wasnt being looked after so got it right and gave it as a gift to a mate who had it running really well catching a lot of game he started on the drink and other shit and wasnt looking after it either, ended up getting out and pound man picked it up and ended up being put down so much for gifting them to mates .this so called mate couldnt be bothered to spend notes getting it out of the dog pound but spent more on the latest shit to put down his gob Quote Link to post
J.DOG 1,355 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 (edited) Prices are ridiculous now I've 3 dogs two were gifted from a mate and I bough a pup for £150 good price but some prices are mad I'd happily pay £200 for a lurcher if its bred well and to me its cheap infact my mate who i got my other dogs off offered me a dog on Saturday it's about 4/5 yrs old lurcher to lurcher bred , ferrets ,lamps takes all game brill dog come with trial for free it's diddnt have the space anymore , he knows the dog will be worked and stay with me and have a good home it's who you know , diddnt take the dog as I'm not ready for another lurcher yet Edited January 14, 2013 by J.DOG Quote Link to post
TORIN 18 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 this is just an opinion but anyone breeds a large litter and dosnt cull to help the bitch say down to 5 or 6 pups is only breeding for money torin i gotta be honest thats the biggest load of crap ive seen on here fore a long time and thats my opinion. last litter i bred cost me £250 stud fee, hundred and sixty pound in fuel going up to stud dog twice ,ten lots of jabs wormers and the best of food etc from 3 weeks old kept one myself gave my son and son in law one each and sold the rest if you cant afford to rear a litter and give them the best of everything then imo dont breed to start with .plus to many want something for nothing ..why anyone would want to cull a perfectly healthy pup that they have just bred is beyond me . one of the pups i sold was bought back at 10 months old because it wasnt being looked after so got it right and gave it as a gift to a mate who had it running really well catching a lot of game he started on the drink and other shit and wasnt looking after it either, ended up getting out and pound man picked it up and ended up being put down so much for gifting them to mates .this so called mate couldnt be bothered to spend notes getting it out of the dog pound but spent more on the latest shit to put down his gob sounds like a right nob there better culled than passed about or abused Quote Link to post
graham4877 1,181 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 I remember as a kid all we did was pick what we liked/ gifted to old mans mates and the left over went.. and anything that didn't do the job at the right age.. was a gonna..no selling on shit. like 99% of the c**ts out their to day 1 Quote Link to post
ciderbob 121 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 i think there are alot of over expensive pups on offer .. but its up to you if you buy then or not yes i agree if someone has put alot of time into their dogs makeing first that their bitch is worth breeding from in the first place then looking for the best possable dog to put over her then he can ask a fare price for any excess pups that he might have but theres alot of shit about on the net where you know that no thought other than £££ has gone into the breeding Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted January 14, 2013 Report Share Posted January 14, 2013 Morton,I get where youre coming from but I have a border terrier at my feet here nearly 10 years old,bred worker to worker,I paid about £400 if I remember rightly,the breeder kept two pups himself ,mates had a couple and he was left with mine till he was 10/11 weeks old when he advertised him and I bought him,should he have been culled.....rather than suffer this lifetime of cruelty and neglect?....... I once bred a litter of lurchers,11 months later i still could not find a decent home for 2 dogs,plenty wanted them,but the right home was not there for them.A bloke i know contacted me,he took the dog for his lad,Gafer on here,£130 if i remember right,the dog was a blinder,its brother ended up in Barnsley to a lad that sounded and seemed genuine,it was then sold for good money to a lad in London and a week later for more money to a lad in Cornwall.Now i don,t take the same chances,the best bred dogs often end up with the worst type of owner,not always but on a far to regular occurence. 1 Quote Link to post
BROCK DOG 126 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 i think if there is going to be pups left over or your only breeding to keep 1 pup why bother surely you would be better of finding a well breed pup that is what your after rather than breeding 1 Quote Link to post
graham4877 1,181 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 maybe because you want your own stock to keep your line going..better to take stock that you no inside out. than buy in some pup thats dam n sire has wind blow up it arse! 1 Quote Link to post
hitemhard 7 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 lucky for me there are still some real dogmen out there got a pup from chrisy off here and he didnt want a penny for them.he and the dogs are top notchthis what the working dog boys need not the puppy peddlers i think if anyone ever has the chance to get one of his pups you need to take it with both hands top man and top dogs!!!!! Quote Link to post
silentrunner2011 218 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 a well bred lurcher pup in my eyes is worth much more than all these toy breeds thats fetching prices up to £1000! wheres the sence in this? never hand the £££ for a lurcher inless u know there back ground. ask to see the sire and dam.. test the water ask to see them work ect never rush into getting a lurcher, this will soon sort the messers from the genuine dogs... im honestly not worried paying £200 for a true well bred lurcher thats bred exactly for what i need from it! but tits need to stop buying these pups on the promise from silly clueless breeders! it would soon thin the back yard breeders out! 1 Quote Link to post
aaron01 737 Posted January 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 a well bred lurcher pup in my eyes is worth much more than all these toy breeds thats fetching prices up to £1000! wheres the sence in this? never hand the £££ for a lurcher inless u know there back ground. ask to see the sire and dam.. test the water ask to see them work ect never rush into getting a lurcher, this will soon sort the messers from the genuine dogs... im honestly not worried paying £200 for a true well bred lurcher thats bred exactly for what i need from it! but tits need to stop buying these pups on the promise from silly clueless breeders! it would soon thin the back yard breeders out! This is what I mean use your loaf when buying a dog ask the right questions and you can soon tell and ejit from a genuine man because a genuine man will probably offer to let you see the parents and will answer all questions Quote Link to post
PoshPikey 560 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Having just bred a litter of pups a lot of what is being said on here is true and then there is some utter bollocks being spouted. Then again I can only give my opinion as I bred to keep back a couple of pups to keep what i believe is some excellent blood going rather than for money. I then had a huge amount of interest from people saying that if i got my bitch in pup then they would want a pup so it made sense to mate. I was perhaps unlucky in that my bitch had a big litter of 10. 3 bitches and 7 dog pups. These pups are arguably some of the best bloodlines around and yet i have had so many people mess me around. So to say that top dogs will always sell is not true - if people haven't got the space or some cash to look after them then they won't commit. I could put a list on here naming and shaming but life is too short for a list of people who promised to buy then and disappeared. Then you get a lot of phone calls from dog thieves who only want to know your postcode, people who sound stoned who "just want a dog to bring on". So you ask them what they want - a dog or a bitch and they clearly don't know what planet they are on. Then you get the people who send you text messages being abusive after you have chatted through the pups. Calling you a c@nt etc Nice bunch of dog people out there well done you tards - you are wrecking the lurcher game for genuine people. My concenr has been to produce a healthy litter and get them good homes - and that is what i have done. Some of them will never see a hare but but will get loved, looked after and given masses of exercise - that to me is preferable than culling them or flogging them to "dog men" who will not put the time or effort into their pups. Edited to add - massive thanks to the really nice and genuine people who have taken a pup off me - they will know that i am not in this for the cash but to get healthy pups good homes and good workign homes where possible. Look at the costs: Wormers:£15 a bottle. First set of vacs@ £35 per pup. So that was £365 down in one morning. Stud fee plus transport £more than many pups are worth but not in my eyes. plus cleaning costs, heat lamps etc etc. Food - feeding meat and biscuit I reckon i was averaging around £15 a DAY to feed the litter. That's over £100 a week, For 9 weeks = £945. Then time - up half the night, luckily my wife is an absolute superstar and has worked her ass off to look after them as I work stupid hours. Then dropping them off to help people out - petrol isn't cheap BUT i would rather do all that to find good homes than cull some excellent pups. I have said from day one that good homes more important than cash and yet i still have a pup left which should be a belter of a dog. There are too many people churning out crap dogs to stupid people for stupidly low prices. I had one bloke offer me £50 for 2 pups? WTF?? So if wach dog lives to be ten years old then his outlay amounts to £2.50 a year per pup. So he values his pups the same as a pint of beer? No sorry not interested in that. 10 Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 this is just an opinion but anyone breeds a large litter and dosnt cull to help the bitch say down to 5 or 6 pups is only breeding for money torin i gotta be honest thats the biggest load of crap ive seen on here fore a long time and thats my opinion. last litter i bred cost me £250 stud fee, hundred and sixty pound in fuel going up to stud dog twice ,ten lots of jabs wormers and the best of food etc from 3 weeks old kept one myself gave my son and son in law one each and sold the rest if you cant afford to rear a litter and give them the best of everything then imo dont breed to start with .plus to many want something for nothing ..why anyone would want to cull a perfectly healthy pup that they have just bred is beyond me . one of the pups i sold was bought back at 10 months old because it wasnt being looked after so got it right and gave it as a gift to a mate who had it running really well catching a lot of game he started on the drink and other shit and wasnt looking after it either, ended up getting out and pound man picked it up and ended up being put down so much for gifting them to mates .this so called mate couldnt be bothered to spend notes getting it out of the dog pound but spent more on the latest shit to put down his gob sounds like a right nob there better culled than passed about or abused Do you just like culling things or what because thats your second word when your writing cull this cull that Quote Link to post
Guest Chancey Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 this is just an opinion but anyone breeds a large litter and dosnt cull to help the bitch say down to 5 or 6 pups is only breeding for money torin i gotta be honest thats the biggest load of crap ive seen on here fore a long time and thats my opinion. last litter i bred cost me £250 stud fee, hundred and sixty pound in fuel going up to stud dog twice ,ten lots of jabs wormers and the best of food etc from 3 weeks old kept one myself gave my son and son in law one each and sold the rest if you cant afford to rear a litter and give them the best of everything then imo dont breed to start with .plus to many want something for nothing ..why anyone would want to cull a perfectly healthy pup that they have just bred is beyond me . one of the pups i sold was bought back at 10 months old because it wasnt being looked after so got it right and gave it as a gift to a mate who had it running really well catching a lot of game he started on the drink and other shit and wasnt looking after it either, ended up getting out and pound man picked it up and ended up being put down so much for gifting them to mates .this so called mate couldnt be bothered to spend notes getting it out of the dog pound but spent more on the latest shit to put down his gob sounds like a right nob there better culled than passed about or abused Do you just like culling things or what because thats your second word when your writing cull this cull that lol sounds like a serial killer in the making 1 Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted January 15, 2013 Report Share Posted January 15, 2013 Morton,I get where youre coming from but I have a border terrier at my feet here nearly 10 years old,bred worker to worker,I paid about £400 if I remember rightly,the breeder kept two pups himself ,mates had a couple and he was left with mine till he was 10/11 weeks old when he advertised him and I bought him,should he have been culled.....rather than suffer this lifetime of cruelty and neglect?....... I once bred a litter of lurchers,11 months later i still could not find a decent home for 2 dogs,plenty wanted them,but the right home was not there for them.A bloke i know contacted me,he took the dog for his lad,Gafer on here,£130 if i remember right,the dog was a blinder,its brother ended up in Barnsley to a lad that sounded and seemed genuine,it was then sold for good money to a lad in London and a week later for more money to a lad in Cornwall.Now i don,t take the same chances,the best bred dogs often end up with the worst type of owner,not always but on a far to regular occurence. that's right £130 for him and have been ofered a lot more than this for him it was the same with my 1st one off morton silly money once gain but unlike alot of people I never get rid of a good dog for verry good money Quote Link to post
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