grovsey 74 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 nick fox dvd set is an asset worth investing into always say it always will Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 its obvious you have taken onboard members comments pal and gone away and done some background work, well done to ya pal, getting some ferrets and a bit of permisson helps cos then ya got summat to offer in return for what you seek from the falconer, works for both parties and thats the way you learn best with someone ya on a postive footing with, again the very best of luck too you, too many fall at first hurdle, when they not welcomed with open arms they simply go off and buy bird and then fook it up royallly and go on IFF to get bailed out, and that comes rightly at a price, public condemnation and endless jibes etc lol worse still bird escapes and dies a lonely miserable death unable to hunt or survive, or worse again the long torturous years left neglected in the shed couple of chicks/dinner scraps tossed in now and again, then maybe sold ontop another clueless halfwith and so on..........keep on the road ya goin and you'll be there sooner than you think, could take a year or two too have your own bird but it will be there for anothe rtwenty years so hey whats the rush pal, JMM very good of you to make that offer , I sincerely hope that I live long enough to learn enough to pass it onto others, just done a bit mentoring this year and its gone well, in fact the lads whoppin my ass on the kills lol its such a fantastic expirience being around a bird of prey and been there in the field with them hunting and working together with them and the dogs ferrets etc in fact its more a privilge that nature affords us, awesome its is .......................................... Quote Link to post
Harris hawk 1973 2 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 You are doing your research and going out with folk feller you are doing it the right way . The folk who nock. Are insane . Not wanting to help out and get more decent folk into falconry . I've had it first hand when I got into it a few years back. Some folk just don't like new folk doing well at the game . I've mentored a few now and I wouldn't hesitate in helping any 1 out.if you don't how do the new folk learn. Help is better than ceing a good bird being ruined od worse by some 1 who isn't realy able to look after a bird the right way . Also buying the right bird as well once your.sure and can look after a bird and can give it the time it needs. I once brought a female harris of a breeder who said yeah she's parent reared been in with parents etc . My mate did the same who has been in falconry a lot of years we got both birds manned up got them on creance . Got them to flying weight then started screaming in garden. We figured it out bloke who bread birds double clutched the eggs to get max profit out of his harris . So he's basically took the birds away far to young. The bloke is an idiot ruining birds for profit . Buying birds is a mine field. Quote Link to post
grovsey 74 Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 You are doing your research and going out with folk feller you are doing it the right way . The folk who nock. Are insane . Not wanting to help out and get more decent folk into falconry . I've had it first hand when I got into it a few years back. Some folk just don't like new folk doing well at the game . I've mentored a few now and I wouldn't hesitate in helping any 1 out.if you don't how do the new folk learn. Help is better than ceing a good bird being ruined od worse by some 1 who isn't realy able to look after a bird the right way . Also buying the right bird as well once your.sure and can look after a bird and can give it the time it needs. I once brought a female harris of a breeder who said yeah she's parent reared been in with parents etc . My mate did the same who has been in falconry a lot of years we got both birds manned up got them on creance . Got them to flying weight then started screaming in garden. We figured it out bloke who bread birds double clutched the eggs to get max profit out of his harris . So he's basically took the birds away far to young. The bloke is an idiot ruining birds for profit . Buying birds is a mine field. You are doing your research and going out with folk feller you are doing it the right way . The folk who nock. Are insane . Not wanting to help out and get more decent folk into falconry . I've had it first hand when I got into it a few years back. Some folk just don't like new folk doing well at the game . I've mentored a few now and I wouldn't hesitate in helping any 1 out.if you don't how do the new folk learn. Help is better than ceing a good bird being ruined od worse by some 1 who isn't realy able to look after a bird the right way . Also buying the right bird as well once your.sure and can look after a bird and can give it the time it needs. I once brought a female harris of a breeder who said yeah she's parent reared been in with parents etc . My mate did the same who has been in falconry a lot of years we got both birds manned up got them on creance . Got them to flying weight then started screaming in garden. We figured it out bloke who bread birds double clutched the eggs to get max profit out of his harris . So he's basically took the birds away far to young. The bloke is an idiot ruining birds for profit . Buying birds is a mine field. its not about not wanting to help its about people using you ,had it happend so many times ,someone befriends you and cant do enough for you and your taking them out showing them as much as you can everytime ,going way out of your way for them to get birds or taking them out with you only to find as soon as they got waht they wanted out of you you never see them again only time you do there on your land poaching your game ,im not a sob in any way and if you new me you would agree but there is always a different side to everything , good luck in the sport Quote Link to post
RIP.JD 21 Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 You are doing your research and going out with folk feller you are doing it the right way . The folk who nock. Are insane . Not wanting to help out and get more decent folk into falconry . I've had it first hand when I got into it a few years back. Some folk just don't like new folk doing well at the game . I've mentored a few now and I wouldn't hesitate in helping any 1 out.if you don't how do the new folk learn. Help is better than ceing a good bird being ruined od worse by some 1 who isn't realy able to look after a bird the right way . Also buying the right bird as well once your.sure and can look after a bird and can give it the time it needs. I once brought a female harris of a breeder who said yeah she's parent reared been in with parents etc . My mate did the same who has been in falconry a lot of years we got both birds manned up got them on creance . Got them to flying weight then started screaming in garden. We figured it out bloke who bread birds double clutched the eggs to get max profit out of his harris . So he's basically took the birds away far to young. The bloke is an idiot ruining birds for profit . Buying birds is a mine field. I know the feeling, I've got a few thousand arces to shoot on which has taken years and lots of effort to acquire. I've taken lads foxing or rabbiting, the next thing I know they are on my ground behind my back. It's small wonder they don't have land of their own. It's not just falconry, shooting is exactly the same You are doing your research and going out with folk feller you are doing it the right way . The folk who nock. Are insane . Not wanting to help out and get more decent folk into falconry . I've had it first hand when I got into it a few years back. Some folk just don't like new folk doing well at the game . I've mentored a few now and I wouldn't hesitate in helping any 1 out.if you don't how do the new folk learn. Help is better than ceing a good bird being ruined od worse by some 1 who isn't realy able to look after a bird the right way . Also buying the right bird as well once your.sure and can look after a bird and can give it the time it needs. I once brought a female harris of a breeder who said yeah she's parent reared been in with parents etc . My mate did the same who has been in falconry a lot of years we got both birds manned up got them on creance . Got them to flying weight then started screaming in garden. We figured it out bloke who bread birds double clutched the eggs to get max profit out of his harris . So he's basically took the birds away far to young. The bloke is an idiot ruining birds for profit . Buying birds is a mine field.its not about not wanting to help its about people using you ,had it happend so many times ,someone befriends you and cant do enough for you and your taking them out showing them as much as you can everytime ,going way out of your way for them to get birds or taking them out with you only to find as soon as they got waht they wanted out of you you never see them again only time you do there on your land poaching your game ,im not a sob in any way and if you new me you would agree but there is always a different side to everything ,good luck in the sport Quote Link to post
j j m 6,533 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 good luck bud you are going in the right direction Quote Link to post
bobcullen79 1,495 Posted February 11, 2013 Report Share Posted February 11, 2013 Firstly, not ever mentor is the same.. But, in my experiance, having a yard full of birds does not make you mentor material, as Ive found out. I learned more from books than I did off my so called mentor. So when he removed the Harris from my first kill too quick,(he admitted it when we got home!) I lost interest in what he was saying, especially when he said, "wow she`s following on nice, she never done that for me", and it was his bird he loaned me!! Also, another phrase common in this game is "theres no right or wrong way, everyone does it differently" So as long as you have done your homework, got some land and telemetry, you shouldnt have a problem. You can teach yourself anything if you want to learn. Hardest part is putting up enough game for a young bird, and I dont see how going out mob handed helps with this. Quote Link to post
j j m 6,533 Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 ive got to agree with the above statement not every one does it the same way,and some people shouldnt mentor at all Quote Link to post
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