tegater 789 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Coming onto the market soon another interesting round for those who have or are looking at the wmr. The new Winchester super magnum, is a rimfire to wreckon with by the looks of things, and although there will be the sceptics and hot on the heels of the .17 hornet, is there room for another .17, the reviews are good, with tight groups at 200, and 60ft/lb more energy than the .22wmr. Read the review and make your own mind up, but in principle it looks great, especially with a 25grain bullet. If you are not interested in reading the full review, here is a small section of it; The new load from Winchester spits out the 20-grainer at 3,000 fps and a 25-grain load at 2,600 fps with energy levels right at 400 ft. lbs. and 375 ft. lbs. respectively—150 pounds more than the 17 HMR and solid 60 foot pounds more than the hottest .22 Winchester Magnum loading! When it comes to critical factors like wind drift and drop, the Winchester Super Magnum beats the HMR by half, and when it comes to the wind-challenged .22 Win. Mag., it simply leaves it in the dust Read more: http://www.petersenshunting.com/2013/01/02/introducing-the-new-17-winchester-super-magnum/#ixzz2HkqJCq6n Quote Link to post
coldweld 65 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I'll stick with my .17 Fireball , same noise as the winchester but go's faster, further as accurate but hit's harder Quote Link to post
bob.243 9,084 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Sounds the business, hope they make it fox legal here. Quote Link to post
halamrose 24 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Nail-gun cartridge, maybe the price will be right. Quote Link to post
tegater 789 Posted January 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Sounds the business, hope they make it fox legal here. It is not illegal to shoot fox with a rim fire here now, it just isn't good sole reason to apply for one. H O guidance states that there are times when a rim fire is suitable. And for all those who don't understand what I am saying, I am not trying to say the rimmy is an ideal dedicated foxing round! Quote Link to post
andy s410c 61 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Be interesting to see the price per 500 of the new super 17 rounds ..HMR @ 25p a bang...dread to think how much they'll be charging over this side of the pond. Quote Link to post
tegater 789 Posted January 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 I'll stick with my .17 Fireball , same noise as the winchester but go's faster, further as accurate but hit's harder Yea and I wont be getting rid of any of my rifles to buy one either, but for first time buyers, they may be a good option, along with plenty of others on the market. Quote Link to post
tegater 789 Posted January 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Be interesting to see the price per 500 of the new super 17 rounds ..HMR @ 25p a bang...dread to think how much they'll be charging over this side of the pond. They will be more expensive than .22 rimmy rounds thats for sure. My hmr rounds work out about 20p a bang, and I dont see that as expensive, when shooting corvids and getting a good return of shots to kills, that i couldnt get with a shotgun at those ranges. Shooting large bags of rabbits, yes sure a .22 rf makes more sense. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Be interesting to see the price per 500 of the new super 17 rounds ..HMR @ 25p a bang...dread to think how much they'll be charging over this side of the pond. They will be more expensive than .22 rimmy rounds thats for sure. My hmr rounds work out about 20p a bang, and I dont see that as expensive, when shooting corvids and getting a good return of shots to kills, that i couldnt get with a shotgun at those ranges. Shooting large bags of rabbits, yes sure a .22 rf makes more sense. you know it does :laugh: Quote Link to post
tegater 789 Posted January 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Be interesting to see the price per 500 of the new super 17 rounds ..HMR @ 25p a bang...dread to think how much they'll be charging over this side of the pond. They will be more expensive than .22 rimmy rounds thats for sure. My hmr rounds work out about 20p a bang, and I dont see that as expensive, when shooting corvids and getting a good return of shots to kills, that i couldnt get with a shotgun at those ranges. Shooting large bags of rabbits, yes sure a .22 rf makes more sense. you know it does :laugh: Quote Link to post
charlie caller 3,654 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Nail-gun cartridge, maybe the price will be right. Yes it is indeed,dont know how much they will be charging,but I bet you can reload a .17rem for the same or cheaper,and have a proper 300yd cartridge into the bargain. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 that 17 does look good mate, it would be nice to see some unbiased field tests Quote Link to post
bob.243 9,084 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Sounds the business, hope they make it fox legal here. It is not illegal to shoot fox with a rim fire here now, it just isn't good sole reason to apply for one. H O guidance states that there are times when a rim fire is suitable. And for all those who don't understand what I am saying, I am not trying to say the rimmy is an ideal dedicated foxing round! Yes I believe your right. Quote Link to post
cyclonebri1 8 Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Why? Seriously, Why? You want a gun to bash bunnies? get a .22, it also covers other vermin, fox and ground game in my area. You will shoot 10 x more ammo through it than any other calibre ex 12g. A safer but noisier, more expensive bunny gun? that covers the same as above, plus is particularly good for 150yd crows? get the HMR, (stay at home if it's windy). Anything else excluding big deer?, .223 or any other .22 cal. Why make it even more complicated. Well we all know why don't we? less shooters needs more temptation per shooter equates to pressure on existing buyers to dig deeper into there pockets. Am I a sceptic?, dam well I am. :whistling: Quote Link to post
tegater 789 Posted January 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Why? Seriously, Why? You want a gun to bash bunnies? get a .22, it also covers other vermin, fox and ground game in my area. You will shoot 10 x more ammo through it than any other calibre ex 12g. A safer but noisier, more expensive bunny gun? that covers the same as above, plus is particularly good for 150yd crows? get the HMR, (stay at home if it's windy). Anything else excluding big deer?, .223 or any other .22 cal. Why make it even more complicated. Well we all know why don't we? less shooters needs more temptation per shooter equates to pressure on existing buyers to dig deeper into there pockets. Am I a sceptic?, dam well I am. :whistling: Just because you don't need one it doesn't mean others won't. There are a whole host of people who shoot from occasional and sports shooters to professionals. It only complicates things if you don't know what you actually want yourself. Quote Link to post
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