help with my springer

[karl p 31]

i have got a springet pup get it off here! hes about 51/2 months! the thing is with him he will not leave my side unless i throw somthin he just walks behind me looking at me an its doing my head in i only got him for bushing with my terriers so ive just done the basic sit stay an walk 2 heel! some help please

[Philluk 181]

Don't worry, don't shout at him, don't let it do your head in. He is just shy lacks confidence won't be long until your shouting cause he has run off.

 

As you walk along try to use places he knows, and just stop and make a fuss of him it will come.

 

I take it the terriers don't have a go at him, you may want to spend one on one time, find a quiet spot sit and play with him. It will come be patient

[karl p 31]

hes ok on are own i point an say find an hes ok smashes thru any cover just other people or dogs he just stands there looking at me

[muddy 6]

I agree with phill. 5 1/2 months is still very young. When you take him out with other dogs, just think of him as a friend you've invited along to see your dogs work. Give him time and he will be fine.

[3175darren 1,101]

As above, he's young mate, he is letting the other dogs take pack lead,its maturaty thats all he's tuned into you proper, you are his world his safety blanket and everything,sounds like he will turn out fine,terriers can have a more agressive style of hunting they can be strong characters,that wont matter next season as his confidence grow's,

[Casso 1,261]

i have got a springet pup get it off here! hes about 51/2 months! the thing is with him he will not leave my side unless i throw somthin he just walks behind me looking at me an its doing my head in i only got him for bushing with my terriers so ive just done the basic sit stay an walk 2 heel! some help please

 

He's at an age before sexual maturity and at his age he has no real compulsion because maturity brings drive with it, i would be dumbfounded if at one year old he was still acting in the same manner, drive brings its own working intelligence with it , as the man said no confrontations or harsh words, encourage physical contact and trust in the pup the ability is in there it just needs time ,

[wyeman 1,230]

A point I have tried to make on a number of threads of a similar nature is that a puppy should be allowed to be a puppy. Many advocate teaching a puppy to sit, hunt and heel when it is a few weeks old, no wonder the pup becomes 'sticky'. Play with it, let him see you as his best friend, he will soon realise that you are the provider of free running exercise. You will soon know when the pup becomes receptive to training - many of the great trainers of gundogs would not start training until a pup was 8 months old!

 

PS. Although heelwork is one of the basic and early requirements in the Labrador type breeds it is the very final training you give a Spaniel.

Edited January 10, 2013 by wyeman

[timber 90]

A point I have tried to make on a number of threads of a similar nature is that a puppy should be allowed to be a puppy. Many advocate teaching a puppy to sit, hunt and heel when it is a few weeks old, no wonder the pup becomes 'sticky'. Play with it, let him see you as his best friend, he will soon realise that you are the provider of free running exercise. You will soon know when the pup becomes receptive to training - many of the great trainers of gundogs would not start training until a pup was 8 months old!

 

PS. Although heelwork is one of the basic and early requirements in the Labrador type breeds it is the very final training you give a Spaniel.

I agree with the above post 100% give him time mate .

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

I spent some time recently, with what you might term, a kinda, old school, Spaniel trainer..

 

We talked about many things, and I was flattered, when he described me as being a fellow dog trainer,...however,..upon reflection,..I feel that his outlook on the training /schooling side of the game, especially regarding the entering of puppies,..has certainly changed my own way of doing things.

As a rough and ready, cur monger myself,...and a lifelong devotee, of the mouching style lurcher, I think we can learn a fair bit from such folk.

 

All the best, CW..

[Casso 1,261]

A point I have tried to make on a number of threads of a similar nature is that a puppy should be allowed to be a puppy. Many advocate teaching a puppy to sit, hunt and heel when it is a few weeks old, no wonder the pup becomes 'sticky'. Play with it, let him see you as his best friend, he will soon realise that you are the provider of free running exercise. You will soon know when the pup becomes receptive to training - many of the great trainers of gundogs would not start training until a pup was 8 months old!

 

PS. Although heelwork is one of the basic and early requirements in the Labrador type breeds it is the very final training you give a Spaniel.

agreed 100%

[deck 35]

time and patience thats all he needs,at the end of the day he's a baby

[karl p 31]

cheers lads i think ill leave him in when were out bushing an jusr take him on my own for walks

[Philluk 181]

A point I have tried to make on a number of threads of a similar nature is that a puppy should be allowed to be a puppy. Many advocate teaching a puppy to sit, hunt and heel when it is a few weeks old, no wonder the pup becomes 'sticky'. Play with it, let him see you as his best friend, he will soon realise that you are the provider of free running exercise. You will soon know when the pup becomes receptive to training - many of the great trainers of gundogs would not start training until a pup was 8 months old!

 

PS. Although heelwork is one of the basic and early requirements in the Labrador type breeds it is the very final training you give a Spaniel.

 

Nothing wrong with doing both, if you let bad habits form as a puppy you will spend a ling time as he matures getting him out of them. Put his food down make him sit, don't let him have it until you told him to. As a pup you can play down the field and train.

 

I on an earlier post said before I let my pup as a pup run after squirrels down the road when we go for a walk, I had the.. He is only a puppy. Now I struggle to stop him doing the same thing daily, his ears are up the heel goes to rat, all because I let him be a pup.

[Casso 1,261]

i can appreciate what your saying Phil but it doesn't mean you let the pup run riot about the place, i think folk believe if you dont instill training as early as possible the pup will grow up to be a manic running around everywhere,

 

the biggest points i feel are missing in a debate like this is 1 dont come into conflict with the pup just try and MANAGE the pup so it cant get itself into any trouble because trust needs to be built , you cant build trust if you are constantly disciplining it for wrong doing, i just dont put it in a situation where it can f**k things up,

 

and 2 is play , we become the centre of attention , in the garden then in the field, my aim is always to have a dog who even in old age still will drop everything to play with me, if i can get that attention i will always have serious control, for a dog its much more than play its synchronising with me in a activity which is how bonding is done in the canine world, wolves synchronise to hunt, Shepard and collie do the same to work sheep, its the pup and me sharing a common goal can be something a simple as playing with a tennis ball, fussing petting and hugging are not how bonding is done, bonding is achieved through a canines natural inclinations,

 

if you can get a pup to a age of reason where trust has been built and drive becomes the overriding force in the pups nature and you are still the centre of its universe training then becomes second nature for you because the pup has tuned into you,

 

theres is no doubt you can achieve a certain amount of success with a pup as far as food goes and getting a pup to sit before feeding can achieve things like that,

but my issue with that is when drive kicks in, the pups mind is developing a different format a new way of processing the world , out with the old in with the new, training then must appeal to drive if it doesn't and the pup wont listen now and recall, when he has always done so in the past we taught the pup was well trained when he was controlled through his stomach by us, we come into conflict with the very nature of our dog because what we find is that now the dog is attracted to other things more than his attraction to us,

[deck 35]

very interesting casso