how do they get away with this!!

[whippet 99 2,613]

I've read this thread with interest, as I've had first hand experience of having a dog shot.

Around 40 years ago, a 'keeper shot one of my dogs. It was in a field with me, no stock, no crops and not chasing anything.

The 'keeper got the hiding of his life, and my brother and I were charged with GBH and Trespass In Pursuit Of Game Or Coney !!

We retained the servces of a top Brief, (ironically a Q.C. for the RSPCA !!). He tore the 'keeper to bits during cross examination, and completely discreditted him.

We were found Not Guilty of all charges; and the 'keeper was later charged with Unlawfully Killing A Dog. He was found Guilty and fined and banned from keeping dogs; he also lost his job and his SGC and FAC.

Apart from losing a good dog, I thought we had a good result !!

 

Cheers.

did you keep the gun.........and check his pockets.....

[Ray Mears 272]

i would just like to point out i dont bump into a farmer and instantly say if you do this i will burn you barn down. i

A farmer once put a gun to my mates head and to he's dogs. He said shoot me and theirs loads of witnesses here so you'll be done for murder. And shoot my dog and ill burn your barn down and kill all your sheep, he never bothered him again after that.

 

i always try and apologise my way out of things and 95% of the time it works the other 5% there is no reasoning with them i dont think it matters if you a dog walker or a hunter they have just had enough for one reason or another and i just walk off after saying sorry etc. i have a farmer by me who went off on one and wanted a fight no matter how many times you say sorry they just dont want to hear it but 95% of the time saying sorry and you saying you understand is enough to get them off your case

Edited January 8, 2013 by Ray Mears

[chartpolski 23,856]

I've read this thread with interest, as I've had first hand experience of having a dog shot.

Around 40 years ago, a 'keeper shot one of my dogs. It was in a field with me, no stock, no crops and not chasing anything.

The 'keeper got the hiding of his life, and my brother and I were charged with GBH and Trespass In Pursuit Of Game Or Coney !!

We retained the servces of a top Brief, (ironically a Q.C. for the RSPCA !!). He tore the 'keeper to bits during cross examination, and completely discreditted him.

We were found Not Guilty of all charges; and the 'keeper was later charged with Unlawfully Killing A Dog. He was found Guilty and fined and banned from keeping dogs; he also lost his job and his SGC and FAC.

Apart from losing a good dog, I thought we had a good result !!

 

Cheers.

did you keep the gun.........and check his pockets.....

 

Why ??

 

Cheers.

[B.P.R 2,798]

what people dont realise is if they gave permission to a lad/lamping pair etc then they would watch the land for them.

 

you look after your permission and it will look after you.

 

if he gives a little he would gain a lot.

[Lab 10,979]

.And after he has shot the dog is that going to be the end nothing more is going to happen? i doubt it as if my dog was shot i coudnt care if i was ment to be there or not i would be back the next day... with a un stock broken bull x

 

 

and your point is ? i dont reck the land i dont mess with stock i close gates behind me. i always apolgise if i bump into anyone but if some f****r gives my dog 2 barrels it aint going down well. if you want to go were you shouldnt be there is always going to be a risk but a man who shoots a dog first and trys to reason second aint going to get no sympathy from me

 

If there's no right of way through the field, you don't go in....simple! If you ignore the warning sign and your dog gets shot who've you got to blame? Yourself!!! Obviously the farmer/landowner has had issues with dogs, put yourself in his shoes

 

Taking an unbroken bullx in FFS heard it all man

 

people like you think its so simple. how about the lads who have no permission who have no other way to keep the there sport going other than to "fence hop" should they pack it in ? there aint enough permission for everybody and thats a fact. you probably dont even keep lurchers because if you did you would know how hard it is to gain permision for a running dog. its big boys rules and if i bump into someone and he has a chat with me and tells me to move on fair enough i will be gone and probably never to return. if he comes running over the hill like f*****g rambo giving it big licks with a shotgun without having a word first or just a simple "f**k off before i shoot it" then i are going to have some issues

but why should he have to get out his bed and come across quietly just cause you decide to have a midnight stroll. Obviously he's going to be pissed off, especially if he has been losing sheep, fences cut or crops ran over. If you had your dogs nicked and you seen someone in your back garden would you go over and have a quiet word?? Would you f**k you think the worst and f*****g batter f**k out of them.

If your going to break the rules then you might have to face the consequences. Nobody wants to shoot a dog. Not only does it bring grief but if your a dog owner yourself it's not a very nice thing too do.

 

well lab for starters who ever is in the hunting game and goes out killing sheep, cuts fences , destroys crops is in the wrong game mate. and to tar all lurcher man as sheep killing fence cutting crop destroying blokes is stupid. there is still some of us out there that go out with a lamp and a dog and thats it i dont go about killing sheep or driving across land that aint mine. i go out for a few bunnies whats the fecking harm in that ? i no there is a few idiots that are wrecking the game but i am being honest when i say if my dog was shot it wouldnt be the last of it. i no if you havent got permission to be there you shoudnt etc.. but i treat the ground with respect as if it was my permission

Sorry mate but not for one minute was I lumping all lurcher men under that categorie. Ill admit before I came on this site i thought wrong and realise now that there's a world of difference between proper lurcher men and these folk that think killing sheep and cutting fences is all part of it. But a farmer getting hassle from folk won't even bother trying to make the comparison.

Again I'd hate to shoot a dog....And I'd never shoot a dog with an owner present. I would however shoot a dog that was out of control and reeking havoc unattended. If then someone took it upon themselves to ruin my business because if there stupidity then "good luck".

What would you class as reeking havoc lab? A dog chasing or nabbing your birds?

in my line of work yes... Would be a dog in the pen killing birds?

[whippet 99 2,613]

I've read this thread with interest, as I've had first hand experience of having a dog shot.

Around 40 years ago, a 'keeper shot one of my dogs. It was in a field with me, no stock, no crops and not chasing anything.

The 'keeper got the hiding of his life, and my brother and I were charged with GBH and Trespass In Pursuit Of Game Or Coney !!

We retained the servces of a top Brief, (ironically a Q.C. for the RSPCA !!). He tore the 'keeper to bits during cross examination, and completely discreditted him.

We were found Not Guilty of all charges; and the 'keeper was later charged with Unlawfully Killing A Dog. He was found Guilty and fined and banned from keeping dogs; he also lost his job and his SGC and FAC.

Apart from losing a good dog, I thought we had a good result !!

 

Cheers.

did you keep the gun.........and check his pockets.....

 

Why ??

 

Cheers.

just seems its the least you can do for the chap ...........

[neems 2,406]

If that was near me I'd walk my terrier on lead through that field every morning.

[chartpolski 23,856]

I've read this thread with interest, as I've had first hand experience of having a dog shot.

Around 40 years ago, a 'keeper shot one of my dogs. It was in a field with me, no stock, no crops and not chasing anything.

The 'keeper got the hiding of his life, and my brother and I were charged with GBH and Trespass In Pursuit Of Game Or Coney !!

We retained the servces of a top Brief, (ironically a Q.C. for the RSPCA !!). He tore the 'keeper to bits during cross examination, and completely discreditted him.

We were found Not Guilty of all charges; and the 'keeper was later charged with Unlawfully Killing A Dog. He was found Guilty and fined and banned from keeping dogs; he also lost his job and his SGC and FAC.

Apart from losing a good dog, I thought we had a good result !!

 

Cheers.

did you keep the gun.........and check his pockets.....

 

Why ??

 

Cheers.

just seems its the least you can do for the chap ...........

 

LOL !!! I thought you may have been that 'keeper for a moment then...... but if he is still alive he'll be in his 's ! I took his gun, but went to the nearest police station and tried to get our version of events in first ! No, I didn't go thru' his pockets !! LOL !!

 

Cheers.

[Maf 22]

Makes me laugh all these comments about if a farmer with a gun did this id do that etc. In all honesty i bet half of you wouldn't say or do f**k all once that 12 bore has been pointing your way.

[Lab 10,979]

If that was near me I'd walk my terrier on lead through that field every morning.

Then he wouldn't give a f**k would he... Lol

[chartpolski 23,856]

Makes me laugh all these comments about if a farmer with a gun did this id do that etc. In all honesty i bet half of you wouldn't say or do f**k all once that 12 bore has been pointing your way.

 

In my case it was a .22 rifle.

 

Cheers.

[Malt 379]

 

tell u what all jokin aside if an old farmer pointed his gun at my dog or myself it probably wouldnt go down 2 well

 

Oh aye, suppose you'd look him dead in the eye as you walked calmly towards him and stuck your finger in the end of his shotgun eh?

 

Makes me laugh all these comments about if a farmer with a gun did this id do that etc. In all honesty i bet half of you wouldn't say or do f**k all once that 12 bore has been pointing your way.

Spot on!

[neems 2,406]

If that was near me I'd walk my terrier on lead through that field every morning.

Then he wouldn't give a f**k would he... Lol

 

If he's written that sign himself he's a full on retard,so probably.

[borris 12]

A farm is a very vulnerable buisiness. 9 times out of 10 they know it's best to leave it. A box of matches costs about the same as a shotgun cartrage.

[Lab 10,979]

A farm is a very vulnerable buisiness. 9 times out of 10 they know it's best to leave it. A box of matches costs about the same as a shotgun cartrage.

could do some damage with one shell though....:-)