fac shotguns

[jakepotjo 3]

hello all my licence is due shortly and i have finaly got round to buying my fac shotgun iv got a hatsan sinthetic 2 month old £100 bargin reson being the bloke took a fancy to this posh gun when he was in the shop and partxed the hatsan and i rang tody to see what they had in and he said i got a hatsan you can have for 100 he sold it the bloke and not a mark on it

 

anyway i was woundring what it stipulates on your certificat as to what you can shoot with it as mine says pigions and corvids and realy i wanted ground quarry and if i did get ground quarry i would sell my other semi 3 shot and just keep the 5 and my over and under for game shooting

 

any hows thanks

[Big bald beautiful 1,231]

Reason it doesnt say ground game , is i think because they gave you fac shot gun for follow up rapid shots,you usualy get These at pigeon, crows etc Not rabbits.

Could be wrong

[Ratsmasher 36]

if in doubt give them a ring

unless there is a specific reason why its not on there they will probs sort it without fuss

[GRAM71 29]

from what i remember when i had mine...

when i asked my feo what i was allowed to shoot with it he replied, "what ever you normally shoot with a sec2 shotgun, as long as you adhere to the law regarding game birds and wildfowl"

hope this helps,

gram.

[SportingShooter 0]

Just ask for "Vermin" to be added as a condition and it covers everything.

 

Can't shoot Wildfowl or Game with a shotgun of over three shots in any case.

[Froudy 40]

I never knew that sporting shooter why can't you shoot wildfowl with a fac shotgun?

[SportingShooter 0]

It's in the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 which restricts the number of rounds to three.

[danw 1,748]

On my fac it states that the fac shotgun and ammunition shall be used for the shooting of vermin and ground game

Do you not need ground game conditioned to shoot rabbits?

Edited January 8, 2013 by danw

[cyclonebri1 8]

No, they are classed as vermin

[Ratsmasher 36]

could ground game relate to hares?

[tegater 789]

The good thing is..... That because vermin covers everything, it backs up what many say, and that is all you need on your fac for rifle, is "vermin" to shoot foxes. Foxes fall into the legal definition of vermin!

[paulus 26]

The good thing is..... That because vermin covers everything, it backs up what many say, and that is all you need on your fac for rifle, is "vermin" to shoot foxes. Foxes fall into the legal definition of vermin!

begs the question as to why some forces just say vermin and others specify fox as a seperate quarry

[tegater 789]

The good thing is..... That because vermin covers everything, it backs up what many say, and that is all you need on your fac for rifle, is "vermin" to shoot foxes. Foxes fall into the legal definition of vermin!

begs the question as to why some forces just say vermin and others specify fox as a seperate quarry

All to do with the initial "good reason"

 

This is taken from the HO guidelines....and yes they are "guidelines"

 

Fox

13.23 Common rifle cartridges considered

suitable for the shooting of foxes range from

.17 Remington, and .22 Hornet to .22 -250

and .220 Swift, though there is a wide range

of suitable similar calibres commercially

available. In windy areas, where heavier bullets

aid accurate shooting, or if applicants wish to

use one rifle for shooting both deer and foxes

they may choose a rifle in 6mm (.243/.244) or

6.5mm (.264) calibre. .22 Rimfire is generally

too low-powered to be used against fox

except at short range, but may reasonably be

permitted for use against such quarry in

certain circumstances. However, sole use

against fox would not normally be sufficient

“good reason” to acquire such a rifle (see

paragraph 13.15).

[tegater 789]

The other interesting one relating to sec1 shotties is this and I admit I dont know whether I am reading it correctly, but...

13.18 Self-loading shot guns (semi-automatic

is defined in section 27 of the Wildlife and

Countryside Act 1981 as holding more than

two cartridges in the magazine and applies

only to large magazine shot guns (and

.22RF)) may be used to shoot certain pest

species under the terms of a licence from

either the Department for Environment,

Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) (WLF

100091 in England, WLF 008 in Wales) or

the Scottish Executive Environment and

Rural Affairs Department (SEERAD), but

is applicable to avian species only. Large magazine

shot guns may be required to deal

with serious pest problems with wood pigeon

or corvids (rooks and crows).

[bird 9,926]

Just ask for "Vermin" to be added as a condition and it covers everything.

 

Can't shoot Wildfowl or Game with a shotgun of over three shots in any case.

 

so just a norm ovu or s/s or semi 3 shot then shotgun. As i thinking what shotguns (W/Fs) use to knock down big geese.? even though i know its the size of shot in the gun to kill big quarry .?