Help needed AGAIN!!!!!!

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Back to basics!

 

You could also try hiding from him when he ignors you after first call, he will soon panic and come looking for you. All the time you are shouting at him you are just telling him where you are so he is happy to carry on doing what he does safe in the knowledge that you are still there, reinforce your position in the pack as the alpha! When mine are hunting up in front they will always check to see where I am and come back when called

 

I found that the hiding thing doesn't work if the bond isn't there. I something has ruined it or it was never established then he won't want to know.

 

Spend as much time as you can praising and bonding and loving the dog and forget working him for now.

 

Atb.

[skycat 6,174]

Everybody has different experiences with different dogs, and this is not only because each dog is different, but because each person is different as well. One training method may work for a particular dog, but not for another. This is where it really does help if you have access to someone who can 'read' both you and your dog, someone who has had a lot of experience with different temperaments and breed types.

 

Failing that, I'd suggest watching as many videos as possible on Youtube on dog training: there are so many videos on there it's amazing. Some are brilliant, some are rubbish, but it is only by learning how NOT to do something that you can learn how to do it right. For example, type in 'recall dog' into the search engine on Youtube. sure, there are some weirdos on there, but sift through the vids and take what you want from different ones. We all have to work hard when training our dogs, some more than others. There is no quick fix when learning to do anything, least of all dog training. Repetition and more repetition is the only way to achieve a well trained dog, but you HAVE to know what you are doing to be able to get there, and if you don't know the basics you may as well whistle in the wind.

 

So, first step is to understand what makes a dog tick, and to understand that all young animals, humans included, go through stages in their development where they want to push boundaries, explore being an individual, do their own thing: ring any bells? You can't expect a young dog to grow up without wanting to do what it wants to do, rather than what you want it to do.

 

Thing is to make sure that the reward of being with you is greater than the reward of not being with you. I'm a great fan of tug play, which is something you can start very young, and is a great method for getting the dog to come right to you for a seriously big reward. In a high drive dog (one that needs to run, grab, chase: most lurchers in fact) the reward of playing tug, getting its teeth into something and pulling and shaking, is usually a lot better than a food treat: after all, you feed the dog anyway, and a lot of lurchers are much less food orientated than Labradors, for example.

 

Here's a short vid of tug play with a very young pup:

Note how he is letting the pup dictate the play, and he does very little pulling of the tug, and never upwards, always at the pup's level.

 

What this pup is learning is that it can have a huge amount of fun whilst being in contact with the trainer> that is one of the very first things we should all learn when training our dogs, that the best fun there is can be had with us. Get this part right, and you are on the correct path to having a dog that actually WANTS to be with you, no matter what distractions there are.

 

I know that this sounds a far cry from getting a 9 month old pup to come back to you when you are out, but believe me, if you get the relationship right at the beginning, the pup will grow up being conditioned to come to you for fun and this reward. Of course there will be blips along the way, its all part of growing up, but get the basics right, and you will ride out the blips as the pup matures.

 

9 months is not too old to teach these games: start off in the garden, alone with the dog. Don't ever play the game with other dogs around. The thing is you can use the reward of the tug toy (one of those knotted rope toys are great) when you are out, without ever actually playing the game, because the dog has already been conditioned to come for the game at home. Don't underestimate the power of the reward in tug play: getting its teeth into something and pulling is one of the strongest rewards there is for a dog because it mimics the chase and kill, the grabbing and shaking needed to kill.

 

Be aware that there are rules of this game, and essential to put those rules into place at the start. I did a series of articles last year, explaining this, and I can send them to you by email if you want. Send me a pm with your email if you'd like to read them.

[Saker Brian 5]

Hows the pup coming on now Rab apart from not coming Back ? What height did he make ?

[Robert morrison 15]

Rab come get me next time your going out see if a can help you out

send me ur number mate ill go out tomorrow if u want mate

[jcm 2,327]

When you call the dog back crouch down to the dogs level and call him with arms open when he comes ruff him up abit, rubbing him and plating with him then send him off to play, walk a few hundred yards then try again, no need for treat and like has been said seeing the lead should be a positive things

[Robert morrison 15]

When you call the dog back crouch down to the dogs level and call him with arms open when he comes ruff him up abit, rubbing him and plating with him then send him off to play, walk a few hundred yards then try again, no need for treat and like has been said seeing the lead should be a positive things

had him out today that's wat I did he was fine but when other dogs r around its different I'm going to keep at it though cheers

[Saker Brian 5]

When you call the dog back crouch down to the dogs level and call him with arms open when he comes ruff him up abit, rubbing him and plating with him then send him off to play, walk a few hundred yards then try again, no need for treat and like has been said seeing the lead should be a positive things

had him out today that's wat I did he was fine but when other dogs r around its different I'm going to keep at it though cheers

ma pup dus that the now Rab best to just go out way no other dogs and al bet you he will be fine

[Robert morrison 15]

When you call the dog back crouch down to the dogs level and call him with arms open when he comes ruff him up abit, rubbing him and plating with him then send him off to play, walk a few hundred yards then try again, no need for treat and like has been said seeing the lead should be a positive things

had him out today that's wat I did he was fine but when other dogs r around its different I'm going to keep at it though cheers

ma pup dus that the now Rab best to just go out way no other dogs and al bet you he will be fine

got ur mail mate give me a text tonight and we will sort something out mate cheers

[Saker Brian 5]

Just shows you how to guy best of pals at one point get back out hunting together because of a forum on the Internet haha happy days Rab bet you iTs no as good as the Charlie n meg days . Meg had to be put down just before Christmas man 16 years old she was I was greetin like a big wain

[Robert morrison 15]

Just shows you how to guy best of pals at one point get back out hunting together because of a forum on the Internet haha happy days Rab bet you iTs no as good as the Charlie n meg days . Meg had to be put down just before Christmas man 16 years old she was I was greetin like a big wain

tge rubbish thing about that Brian is we will never get 2 dogs like that again shame about meg mate ill see u the mora