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what breed would you say transformed the terrier world ??


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I agree with what youre saying , but how much of the stuff being kept and dug to today would have lasted beyond 2 seasons 30 years ago

how much of the stuff kept and dug to years ago was worked single handed !

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i think the locator shaped the terriermen of today more so than the terriers most terriers will go to ground and work weather they ve a locator or not on but how many of todays terriermen could dig to

Compaired to when ? Are dogs harder grafting then when brock was legal ? most of todays hard dogs would be dead in there first encounter ! Dogs of yesterday needed Brains not just blind courage.

It was never needed in decent working jukels,a quick fix that produces more for the wheelie bin than a working kennel.

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i'm surprised no one has mentiond the small hounds. as they was bred into most working lines. and a lot of the older badger digging terriers where a dog and a half long and half a dog high :thumbs: this and the big ears where a dead givaway :D . . depending on the district. many terriers had the little lancashire heeler in them . the corgi was also in there. and of course there was a dash of bull in many lines. despite what is said by a lot of knowledgable folk. :whistling: the older bull crosses lacked very little. but didnt find favour with a lot of lads as they tended to be mute or to hard. and the bull back then was a different animal. collie also found its way into many lines. and the truth is anything small enough was tried :D .

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has to be the bull breeds without a doubt dogs are alot harder now than pre locator days

As soon as bull blood needed adding to a strain of working terrier,then you just knew the strain where not really workers.

 

what book did you read that in?-nothing wrong with a bit of bull in terriers -some come out a bit too big or too dog aggressive but that sometimes happens anyway-good cross when it works out-

It was never needed in decent working jukels,a quick fix that produces more for the wheelie bin than a working kennel.

 

Im only 32- how many centuries old are you? not having a go id say there was bull terrier of a kind in all of them long before we were born...Thanks for posting the picture-are the hounds some type of welsh hound or some extinct type...? The sealyhamis a breed thats in the backbreeding of a lot of working terriers id say-heard breay started out with them(could be wrong)

 

i can remember as far back as the year you where born and farther. and from what ive heard some of the dogs around then are still relatively unchanged. and i started with patts/border/lakies. they defo had a little bull in them and they are still held in high regard now :yes: .

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the very first black terrier i saw was around twelve inch tts and it had a coat like a cairn. i asked the fella what it was and he told me it was a black patterdale. but had took more to the sealyham. in its background :yes: this would have been 1980. :thumbs:

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was nt it mentioned that the now famous choc coat came about after a dash of spaniel was introduced be it accidental or on purpose and was nt that a so called pup from the mating in a photo of young lad with his dad with shovel over shoulder two white russells from a badger digging club and the chow d looking choc dog in background

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