Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted January 22, 2013 Report Share Posted January 22, 2013 There doesnt need to be a tournament or any strict policy................just a straightforward title eliminator between 2 top ranked fighters is good enough..............these days fighters are trying to inch their way to a shot without really fighting and beating anyone of any worth,these manufactured unbeaten records will be their undoing in the long run. I agree, look what happened Vlad Klitschko when he lost to Corrie Sanders, it almost wrecked his career! He was pretty much hand fed opponents he would walk through, then Sanders blasted him out in two rounds. He come back against "Touch of sleep" and got put on his arse again and looked shaky as hell before winning then the Brewster fight lol f**k me he was in the horrors. He ain't done too bad since but he had to make a lot of changes to get to where he is now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Boxing monthly 2013 heavyweight rankings, OVER 200lbs/14st 4lbs 1: Vitali Klitschko (Ukraine), 45-2, WBC 2: Wlad Klitschko (Ukraine), 59-3, IBF/WBO/WBA 3: Alexander Povetkin (Russia), 25-0 4: Tomasz Adamek (Poland), 47-2 5: David Haye (GB), 26-2 6: Robert Helenius (Finland), 18-0 7: Kubrat Pulev (Bulgaria), 17-0 8: Ruslan Chagaev* (Uzbekhistan), 30-2-1 9: Chris Arreola, 35-2 10: Odlanier Solis (Cuba), 18-1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 WBC 2013 heavyweight rankings, Champion Vitali Klitschko. 1 Chris Arreola 2 Bermane Stiverne 3 Jonathon Banks 4 Tyson Fury 5 David Haye 6 Tony Grano 7 Kubrat Pulev 8 Manuel Charr 9 David Price 10 Magomed Abdusalamov Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DannyMc 143 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 He's ranked in Ring magazine top ten which is widely regarded the most esteemed ranking organisation atm. He's coming on at good pace and doing really well,to be in the top 10 at 23 in the heavyweight division these days is an acheivment itself seeing as the bigger fellas seem to be coming into their own round about 30,also think he's more intelligent than people give him credit for,the kids just hypin up his fights and like him or loathe him he has toungues waggin. One thing I do believe he needs to do is dump Channel 5 the first chance he gets,they aren't doing him justice,the channel itself doesnt have a strong enough sport following to promote his fightsand are the reason there was so many empty seats in at his last fight. Hope he keeps fighting in Belfast,fcuk nos the city needs something positive these days. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 To see the complete list of our panelists, click here. Heavyweight Limit: none CHAMPION: Wladimir Klitschko Country: Ukraine Record: 59-3-0 (50 KOs) Ranking: This Week: C | Last Week: C | Weeks On List: 398 Titles: RING, IBF, WBO, WBA Vitali Klitschko Country: Ukraine Record: 45-2-0 (41 KOs) Ranking: This Week: 1 | Last Week: 1 | Weeks On List: 222 Title: WBC Alexander Povetkin Country: Russia Record: 25-0-0 (17 KOs) Ranking: This Week: 2 | Last Week: 2 | Weeks On List: 272 David Haye Country: United Kingdom Record: 26-2-0 (24 KOs) Ranking: This Week: 3 | Last Week: 3 | Weeks On List: 27 Kubrat Pulev Country: Bulgaria Record: 17-0-0 (9 KOs) Ranking: This Week: 4 | Last Week: 4 | Weeks On List: 65 Tomasz Adamek Country: Poland Record: 48-2-0 (29 KOs) Ranking: This Week: 5 | Last Week: 5 | Weeks On List: 143 Robert Helenius Country: Finland Record: 18-0-0 (11 KOs) Ranking: This Week: 6 | Last Week: 6 | Weeks On List: 93 Denis Boytsov Country: Russia Record: 31-0-0 (25 KOs) Ranking: This Week: 7 | Last Week: 7 | Weeks On List: 186 Ruslan Chagaev Country: Uzbekistan Record: 30-2-1 (19 KOs) Ranking: This Week: 8 | Last Week: 8 | Weeks On List: 321 Chris Arreola Country: U.S. Record: 35-2-0 (30 KOs) Ranking: This Week: 9 | Last Week: 9 | Weeks On List: 199 Tyson Fury Country: United Kingdom Record: 20-0-0 (14 KOs) Ranking: This Week: 10 | Last Week: 10 | Weeks On List: 47 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) .there you go boxing news,wbc and ring mag all updated Edited January 23, 2013 by TUFFTY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 He's ranked in Ring magazine top ten which is widely regarded the most esteemed ranking organisation atm. He's coming on at good pace and doing really well,to be in the top 10 at 23 in the heavyweight division these days is an acheivment itself seeing as the bigger fellas seem to be coming into their own round about 30,also think he's more intelligent than people give him credit for,the kids just hypin up his fights and like him or loathe him he has toungues waggin. One thing I do believe he needs to do is dump Channel 5 the first chance he gets,they aren't doing him justice,the channel itself doesnt have a strong enough sport following to promote his fightsand are the reason there was so many empty seats in at his last fight. Hope he keeps fighting in Belfast,fcuk nos the city needs something positive these days. Danny you say channel 5 are not doing him justice? Hows that then? they put on ALL hes fights live and they stand by there man channel 5 dont and havent bigged him up Tyson is the only one with the talk NOBODY else i think Channel 5 should tell him to shut up and get on with his business instead of given ridiculars comments on ufc fighters and saying hes the best in the world NOT CHANNEL5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
masmiffy 82 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Tyson Fury is by far the biggest load of sh##e going imo seen him twice and far from impressed. Glass jaw on a big man = long way down to the canvas!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 There doesnt need to be a tournament or any strict policy................just a straightforward title eliminator between 2 top ranked fighters is good enough..............these days fighters are trying to inch their way to a shot without really fighting and beating anyone of any worth,these manufactured unbeaten records will be their undoing in the long run. I agree, look what happened Vlad Klitschko when he lost to Corrie Sanders, it almost wrecked his career! He was pretty much hand fed opponents he would walk through, then Sanders blasted him out in two rounds. He come back against "Touch of sleep" and got put on his arse again and looked shaky as hell before winning then the Brewster fight lol f**k me he was in the horrors. He ain't done too bad since but he had to make a lot of changes to get to where he is now. Vlad already had a loss on his record to Ross Purrity by tko Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 hes lost 3 times mate Purrity,Sanders and Brewster have ALL ko'd him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,118 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) Have a look at the top 10 Tuffty has posted and clock their records................there is 5 fighters in that top 10 who are unbeaten !!....They cant all be unbelievable talents.........Why not fight each other as a title elimnator ??................this tactic of safety first no risk padding out unbeaten records is killing the division Price and Fury are as bad as anyone else....................love him or hate him ol Delboy Chisora at least gets in there and has a go and doesnt fear a loss like most of them.......talent and ability will take you most of the way......but sheer will to win and competetive spirit will be what gets you over the finish line. Edited January 23, 2013 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) Have a look at the top 10 Tuffty has posted and clock their records................there is 5 fighters in that top 10 who are unbeaten !!.............Why not fight each other for a title elimnator ??................this tactic of safety first no risk padding out unbeaten records is killing the division Price and Fury are as bad as anyone else....................love him or hate him ol Delboy Chisora at least gets in there and has a go and doesnt fear a loss like most of them.......talent and ability will take you most of the way......but sheer will to win and competetive spirit will be what gets you over the finish line. As you know gnash del-boy will fight anyone thses unbeaten guys are only after a big payday Edited January 23, 2013 by TUFFTY Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DannyMc 143 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 (edited) I don't think they can do him justice as regards promoting his fights and bringing him to a wider audience,lets be honest Channel 5 ain't exactly a popular channel full stop,never mind a popular sports channel,they don't have the glamour or the audience of say Sky. For his last fight in Belfast there was no buzz about the place in the weeks and days leading up-to the fight,when Sky puts on a show its the talk of the country,everyone is excited,because the promotion has reached the target audience,and when one person buys tickets that usually means there will be a couple of mates goin or at the least a bird(unless your a Billy-no-mates;-)). Is the reason people arent going to hi fights because the lads not a native,I personally don't think so. I'm sure what your saying about the channel getting behind him is true,I just don't think they're good enough,especially in what could be the biggest year of his career. As for the way he carrys on before fights,I can't see channel5 encouraging him to stop,just like there was no chance of Sky asking David Haye to reign in his behaviour before the Klitsco fight. It's all for the show. I don't think they can do him justice as regards promoting his fights and bringing him to a wider audience,lets be honest Channel 5 ain't exactly a popular channel full stop,never mind a popular sports channel,they don't have the glamour or the audience of say Sky. For his last fight in Belfast there was no buzz about the place in the weeks and days leading up-to the fight,when Sky puts on a show its the talk of the country,everyone is excited,because the promotion has reached the target audience,and when one person Is this because the lads not a native,I personally don't think so. I'm sure what your saying about the channel getting behind him is true,I just don't think they're good enough,especially in what could be the biggest year of his career. As for the way he carrys on before fights,I can't see channel5 encouraging him to stop,just like there was no chance of Sky asking David Haye to reign in his behaviour before the Klitsco fight. It's all for the show. Edited January 23, 2013 by DannyMc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Danny it is channel 5 thats showing him to the world the promotion is down to hes promoter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DannyMc 143 Posted January 23, 2013 Report Share Posted January 23, 2013 Trust me mate channel 5 ain't showing anyone to the world. I think you understand what I mean,so il leave it at what I just said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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